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272 jailed last year for non-payment of TV licence

  • 15-05-2013 10:09AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/jailings-for-nonpayment-of-tv-licence-fine-up-50pc-29267389.html
    According to figures provided by the Irish Prison Service, the numbers of people jailed for non-payment of licence fines last year increased from 183 to 272 – a jump of 89 or 48.6pc.

    thank god this scum is off our streets :rolleyes:

    seriously though, i'm sure there is a better way to deal with this than sending people to prison

    I wonder would it be possible to collect the tv licence through providers by adding it to their monthly fee?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    They've heard all the excuses in fairness.



    Some day though, they might get around to hauling fraudulent bankers and corrupt politicians into gaol too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    wait til you see the amount jailed for non payment of property tax :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    AND ALL THIS WHILE THE BANKERS AND SPECULATORS WALK FREE! :mad:

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    IM0 wrote: »
    wait til you see the amount jailed for non payment of property tax :eek:


    Count me in. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    IM0 wrote: »
    wait til you see the amount jailed for non payment of property tax :eek:

    Resulting in higher jail costs requiring an increase in tax to pay for all the prisoners, this then leads to more people not paying tax and the circle goes on.

    Eventually they'll just have to turn Ireland into a prison island.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭cml387


    Agricola wrote: »
    AND ALL THIS WHILE THE BANKERS AND SPECULATORS WALK FREE! :mad:

    :D

    AND RTE IS SH!TE ANYWAY AND LOOK AT THOSE POLITICIANS WITH THEIR EXPENSES AND I SHOULDN'T PAY RICH PEOPLE SHOULD PAY MORE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Pretty sure they were jailed for not paying the fine for not having a tv licence. A subtle but notable difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    IM0 wrote: »
    wait til you see the amount jailed for non payment of property tax :eek:

    Don't knock it, could be the start of a prison construction boom!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Joke of a practice, a stupid outdated fee results in already overcrowded and under pressure prison and judicial services being stretched even further. the licence fee should be scrapped, end of. if RTE can't afford its running costs then get rid of a load of dead weight "stars" or massive paycuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭Wossack


    whats the average jail term for a non payment of tv license offence?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Schnitzel Muncher


    Agricola wrote: »
    AND ALL THIS WHILE THE BANKERS AND SPECULATORS WALK FREE! :mad:

    :D

    Tell us a bit more about these SPECULATORS, and why they should be locked up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    A few hours at most I'd imagine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    IM0 wrote: »
    wait til you see the amount jailed for non payment of property tax :eek:

    Won't arise imo. They will be deducting at source from PAYE workers and welfare recipients and self employed people will have problems getting tax clearance if they are contractors . Those who arent won't want interest and penalties and/ or risk of an audit. There'll be very little non compliance imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,095 ✭✭✭OU812


    Although I detest taxes like this which are stealth taxation, nothing less, the simple fact remains that they are here.

    They should be collected through the electricity bill. Same with property tax, motor tax through fuel etc.

    If we're going to collect them they should be collected in the most efficient manner possible, if you're not consuming the fuel to run them, they're not in use, and they're unavoidable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Schnitzel Muncher


    Are these guys allowed watch TV while locked up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    SamHall wrote: »
    Count me in. ;)

    are you going to laugh and point too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Wossack wrote: »
    whats the average jail term for a non payment of tv license offence?

    2 months I think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Are these guys allowed watch TV while locked up?

    that irony would be too delicious to contemplate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Wossack wrote: »
    whats the average jail term for a non payment of tv license offence?

    Probably a cup of tea and a sandwich before going home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Are these guys allowed watch TV while locked up?

    yes but only on a 14" plasma as punishment


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    These people are brought to the front office of the prison. They're written into the books. About ten minutes later they're shoved out the front door of the prison.

    They are known in the trade as a 'turn around'

    This is because the prisons are too full to deal with non payment of fines prisoners.
    And the "jail time" is for refusing to pay a fine that a Judge in Court imposed on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,922 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Nobody has ever been jailed for non-payment of TV license.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Pretty sure they were jailed for not paying the fine for not having a tv licence. A subtle but notable difference.
    Ah yeah, but what's the point in bringing any sense of reality to this.

    <General purpose rant about how anything I do is excusable because Sean Fitzpatrick hasn't been defenestrated. Also, I refuse to acknowledge the Courts because of Garlic Man>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Personally, I think the State needs to get some more joined up thinking and legislate where necessary, to have fees/penalties like this deducted from any sort of state assistance being received by individuals. There isn't an individual in the country that isn't provided with something from the State - be it tax credits, children's allowance etc...

    It would be far more cost effective and efficient to do this - provided revenue and social welfare and other State bodies share some form of common IT infrastructure/database and MIF systems.

    I find the tv licence thing to be a joke tbh, particularly when it goes to RTÉ solely, but nonetheless it's a tax/fee that is required by law and I have no sympathy for those caught.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Someone should ring Joe Duffy...ah, no...wait....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Flimbos


    OU812 wrote: »
    Although I detest taxes like this which are stealth taxation, nothing less, the simple fact remains that they are here.

    They should be collected through the electricity bill. Same with property tax, motor tax through fuel etc.

    If we're going to collect them they should be collected in the most efficient manner possible, if you're not consuming the fuel to run them, they're not in use, and they're unavoidable.

    This.

    Nearly everyone has a tv. And with Pat Rabbitte's broadcasting tax due to replace the tv licence... I don't agree with a tax to fund RTE, but if they really must do it, at least do it more efficiently and just slap a % onto the ESB bill.

    Stop wasting more taxpayers money sending people around knocking on doors, sending out letters, making awful TV and radio ads and wasting the courts time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    How thick do you have to be to get caught? Just don't answer the door if your not expecting anyone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 Spurtacus


    Surely when it becomes the broadcasting charge the 15% of non-compliance with drop to almost zero then our glorious leaders will reduce the contribution accordingly :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    It would make more sense to confiscate their TVs, sell them on and use the proceeds to pay for the license. Court cases and prison terms are just a drain on resources, much bigger criminals out there where these resources could be better utilised.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Spurtacus wrote: »
    Surely when it becomes the broadcasting charge the 15% of non-compliance with drop to almost zero then our glorious leaders will reduce the contribution accordingly :rolleyes:

    no ryan tubridy will get a pay rise, because he's worth it


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