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Getting the snip on the dole
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13-05-2013 9:04pm#1
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Whatever about the snip being free for people on the dole etc, thats just a personal choice tbh, but this thread put a very memorable quote in my head which I heard a few years ago and tis one of the few quotes I actually 100% agree with really, probably wont be favoured by everyone or even many tbh but it does make sense by Sir MM
“You should have to pass an IQ test before you breed. You have to take a driving test to operate vehicles and an SAT test to get into college. So why dont you have to take some sort of test before you give birth to children? When I am President, thats the first rule I will institute.”0 -
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What happens if they fail the test? Baby taken into care when born?candy-gal1 wrote: »Whatever about the snip being free for people on the dole etc, thats just a personal choice tbh, but this thread put a very memorable quote in my head which I heard a few years ago and tis one of the few quotes I actually 100% agree with really, probably wont be favoured by everyone or even many tbh but it does make sense by Sir MM
“You should have to pass an IQ test before you breed. You have to take a driving test to operate vehicles and an SAT test to get into college. So why dont you have to take some sort of test before you give birth to children? When I am President, thats the first rule I will institute.”0 -
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Femme_Fatale wrote: »What happens if they fail the test? Baby taken into care when born?
Well I would assume, and hope, such a test would be taken before the person actually got/tried to get pregnant tbh 0 -
If they fail the test, how can they be stopped having sex without contraception or even with contraception but it failing? Or would failing the test mean mandatory sterilisation?candy-gal1 wrote: »Well I would assume, and hope, such a test would be taken before the person actually got pregnant tbh0 -
candy-gal1 wrote: »Well I would assume, and hope, such a test would be taken before the person actually got/tried to get pregnant tbh
Basically just chop their cock off all together?! What age would you give this test? What if the mother was a genius and the oul fella a tool, what then?0 -
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Femme_Fatale wrote: »If they fail the test, how can they be stopped having sex without contraception or even with contraception but it failing? Or would failing the test mean mandatory sterilisation?
I would say that if the test was failed that they would be put on some reliable form of birth control such as the pill etc/sterilization if really needed, since we dont have any form of abortion clinic in this country as of yet :rolleyes:
But to fail the test would mean basically that you were unfit to parent a child because of some actual reason, as there should be something to study of before you take the test as well as your own thinking/way of going about things etc, its a big decision to either stop someone having children/force someone to so the test in question shouldnt be at all flippant 0 -
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candy-gal1 wrote: »Well I would assume, and hope, such a test would be taken before the person actually got/tried to get pregnant tbh
What if they passed the test but were crap parents, does someone take the baby and look after it for them? Is this where the experts who carried out the test come in?
No one knows what it's like to be a parent until you actually become a parent.0 -
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candy-gal1 wrote: »Whatever about the snip being free for people on the dole etc, thats just a personal choice tbh, but this thread put a very memorable quote in my head which I heard a few years ago and tis one of the few quotes I actually 100% agree with really, probably wont be favoured by everyone or even many tbh but it does make sense by Sir MM
“You should have to pass an IQ test before you breed. You have to take a driving test to operate vehicles and an SAT test to get into college. So why dont you have to take some sort of test before you give birth to children? When I am President, thats the first rule I will institute.”
Some of the smartest people I've known have been the most selfish and/or cruel cvnts I've known.
A good friend of mine would lay his life on the line for his friends or family and as long as I've known him has only ever seemed to want the best for people. Pretty sure he'd flunk an IQ test though.
Really don't think something as arbitrary as an IQ test would be the best yard stick by which to measure whether or not someone should be permitted to have children in any future utopia.0 -
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What if they passed the test but were crap parents, does someone take the baby and look after it for them? Is this where the experts who carried out the test come in?
No one knows what it's like to be a parent until you actually become a parent.
Exactly there, but the test in question if there ever was such a thing which I doubt really, would/should help on that with it being about having kids/what its like from personal experiences from different people/questions about yourself and your opinions on such things/why you want children personally and how you would plan for them etc etc
And no,, this isnt in answer to you Hondasami, I never said it was an IQ test - which is basically just a mind test in general as far as i know - I meant a test on the specific subject of having children where theyre would be books/courses/personal experience to go over beforehand, and obviously case by case situations would be taken under consideration also. 0 -
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candy-gal1 wrote: »Exactly there, but the test in question if there ever was such a thing which I doubt really, would/should help on that with it being about having kids/what its like from personal experiences from different people/questions about yourself and your opinions on such things/why you want children personally and how you would plan for them etc etc
And no,, this isnt in answer to you Hondasami, I never said it was an IQ test - which is basically just a mind test in general as far as i know - I meant a test on the specific subject of having children where theyre would be books/courses/personal experience to go over beforehand, and obviously case by case situations would be taken under consideration also.
My experience would not necessarily be the same for another person, no amount of reading or talking can prepare you for bringing a newborn home and looking after it, the books make it all seem lovely but reality is different.
I don't think anyone can tell you what your experience of motherhood will be like because until it happens even you don't know.0 -
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My experience would not necessarily be the same for another person, no amount of reading or talking can prepare you for bringing a newborn home and looking after it, the books make it all seem lovely but reality is different.
I don't think anyone can tell you what your experience of motherhood will be like because until it happens even you don't know.
My point exactly, albeit maybe im going about in a roundabout way
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In short, having a test like this if there ever was one may stop people from the mentality of "must have a child before I get too old", "having a child is what you should do/what everyone else their age is doing" or "I want to have a baby while young enough to be a yummy mummy and be like the childs big sister" :rolleyes:
Imho, these are not the right reasons to have a child, at all really, but they are said and heard all the time these days, thats what id like to see change.0 -
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