BMW 320D M sport

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 1:56pm #1

http://www.cargiant.co.uk/BMW/320D/Saloon/details-587762-BMW-320D-Saloon.asp?viewtype=0

Hi,

Looking at buying a 320d and was wondering if ye thought this is a good deal for the mileage and spec?

listermint · 13-05-2013 1:58pm

It looks like a fair price tbh. Whats the VRT on it?

Love the leather interior its nicely spec'd

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 2:05pm

im living in the uk so vrt not an issue. I have two musts with it has to have leather and be black and this is looking good. how about the mileage is that considered high? should i be looking out for anything in particular?

listermint · 13-05-2013 2:09pm

sparks24 wrote: »

im living in the uk so vrt not an issue. I have two musts with it has to have leather and be black and this is looking good. how about the mileage is that considered high? should i be looking out for anything in particular?

No that mileage is not high. I believe swirl plates are a concern on these and one of the best options is to have them blanked. First port of call.

listermint · 13-05-2013 2:12pm

heres an example of how to look after and make one of these look superb

http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28767

sebastianlieken · 13-05-2013 2:12pm

Mileage 74,527
last Service 58,400
16,127 miles without a service. I'd want to check out it's service history to make sure it's been looked after. 16,000 miles without a service is a bit much no?

will the car be coming with a service? i'd want new filters all round, and new oil aswell, possibly new brake pads aswell.

Nonoperational · 13-05-2013 2:15pm

It's probably "ok" if it's on BMW long life servicing...

listermint · 13-05-2013 2:15pm

sebastianlieken wrote: »

Mileage 74,527
last Service 58,400
16,127 miles without a service. I'd want to check out it's service history to make sure it's been looked after. 16,000 miles without a service is a bit much no?

For an enthusiast yes.

But for BMW no, as this is their recommended count down. Personally id always half that but its what BMW recommend then your within their set limits.

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 2:16pm

listermint wrote: »

No that mileage is not high. I believe swirl plates are a concern on these and one of the best options is to have them blanked. First port of call.

know sweet feck all about cars but these swirl plates dont sound like a big job?

has 2 previous owners but says it has a service history, what should i be looking for in this as it will be all new too me! thanks for all the info

listermint · 13-05-2013 2:17pm

sparks24 wrote: »

know sweet feck all about cars but these swirl plates dont sound like a big job?

has 2 previous owners but says it has a service history, what should i be looking for in this as it will be all new too me! thanks for all the info

Have a read down through paddys thread. Its well worth it.

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 2:21pm

sebastianlieken wrote: »

Mileage 74,527
last Service 58,400
16,127 miles without a service. I'd want to check out it's service history to make sure it's been looked after. 16,000 miles without a service is a bit much no?

will the car be coming with a service? i'd want new filters all round, and new oil aswell, possibly new brake pads aswell.

ya this did catch me eye alright and i read that the oil should be changed a lot sooner. going to go look at it tomorrow so trying to get all my questions ready so this will help thanks

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 2:47pm

listermint wrote: »

Have a read down through paddys thread. Its well worth it.

ya its a very good thread, the car looks tidy with the little mods! he had a problem with the dual mass flywheel, is that a problem with the car i posted?

listermint · 13-05-2013 2:55pm

sparks24 wrote: »

ya its a very good thread, the car looks tidy with the little mods! he had a problem with the dual mass flywheel, is that a problem with the car i posted?

BMW have various software updates for all their transmissions on most models. Provided this vehicle has received its updates at service time you shouldnt have a problem,

Id imagine car giant stand over their own warranty so i would envisage this being an issue for you.

Stallingrad · 13-05-2013 2:59pm

2008 the LCI facelift came in which to my eyes did a lot to improve the styling. But the spec on that one is good so can see the temptation.

bazz26 · 13-05-2013 3:05pm

That is very similar to my car.

On top of the standard Edition M Sport spec that car has a few options such as heated seats and the professional idrive/Sat NAV which has a wider screen and two DVD trays.

The inlet manifold was redesigned when the N47 engine was introduced in Sept 2007 so the swirl flaps should not be an issue though some owners still prefer to have them removed.

You might want to do a bit of reading up on the N47 timing chain issues though as these cars can suffer from the chain getting noise and eventually snapping. Not a cheap job to put right either but if the car has a full BMW service history they may contribute towards some of the costs.

I definitely would recommend halving the BMW service interval though, I get my oil and filters changed every 15k km, BMW's 30k km is way too long imo.

Other things to be aware of are that this car sits on 18" staggered alloy wheels so tyres are not cheap especially if they are run flat tyres which they come with from the factory. Most people change to regular tyres including me as I saw no value added in sticking with run flat tyres.

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 3:18pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

2008 the LCI facelift came in which to my eyes did a lot to improve the styling. But the spec on that one is good so can see the temptation.

by face lift do u mean the bonnet? thats the only difference i can really see and its nice but not a deal breaker really. could i buy the new bonnet to fit?

bazz26 · 13-05-2013 3:23pm

LCI or facelifted model got redesigned headlights, new grill, new bumpers and new exterior mirrors. The "Edition" models were introduced just before the facelift and kitted out with lots of extras for very little money at the time.

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 3:28pm

bazz26 wrote: »

That is very similar to my car. On top of the standard Edition M Sport spec that car has a few options such as heated seats and the professional idrive/Sat NAV which has a wider screen and two DVD trays.

The inlet manifold was redesigned when the N47 engine was introduced in Sept 2007 so the swirl flaps should not be an issue though some owners still prefer to have them removed.

You might want to do a bit of reading up on the N47 timing chain issues though as these cars can suffer from the chain getting noise and eventually snapping. Not a cheap job to put right either but if the car has a full BMW service history they may contribute towards some of the costs.

I definitely would recommend halving the BMW service interval though, I get my oil and filters changed every 15k km, BMW's 30k km is way too long imo.

Other things to be aware of are that this car sits on 18" staggered alloy wheels so tyres are not cheap especially if they are run flat tyres which they come with from the factory. Most people change to regular tyres including me as I saw no value added in sticking with run flat tyres.

thanks thats some good info! is the timing chain a cert that it will go or is it a random fault that probably wont happen unless im just unlucky?

listermint · 13-05-2013 3:33pm

sparks24 wrote: »

thanks thats some good info! is the timing chain a cert that it will go or is it a random fault that probably wont happen unless im just unlucky?

No such thing as a cert. These things can happen randomly or can be brought on by the life of the vehicle.

Have it assessed by a qualified mechanic to safeguard its current condition. After that just maintain the car to a good standard and dont spend too much timing worrying about what ifs.

bazz26 · 13-05-2013 3:37pm

sparks24 wrote: »

thanks thats some good info! is the timing chain a cert that it will go or is it a random fault that probably wont happen unless im just unlucky?

Well it's hard to say really. Mine has similar mileage to the one you are looking at and no problems to date. There are thousands of these cars with this engine on the road and there is a certain percentage of them that have developed timing chain problems, some with only 35k miles on the clock while others had over 120k miles on the clock. My advice is if you are buying one make sure you get the best and longest warranty as possible.

sparks24 · 13-05-2013 4:51pm

bazz26 wrote: »

Well it's hard to say really. Mine has similar mileage to the one you are looking at and no problems to date. There are thousands of these cars with this engine on the road and there is a certain percentage of them that have developed timing chain problems, some with only 35k miles on the clock while others had over 120k miles on the clock. My advice is if you are buying one make sure you get the best and longest warranty as possible.

ya cargiant have this guarantee for parts and labour by AA approved garages http://www.cargiant.co.uk/used-cars-for-sale/AboutCars/used-car-Warranty.asp

would this rule out BMW doing any work if required?

BMW 320D M sport

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