Irish 'Faceism'

dd972

Going to get stick from some quarters for this post, (it is AH ) but nevermind what's the worst that could happen?

There is, to me anyway, a certain phenomenon among Irish people about prejudging people because of the way they look facially, someone who looks more quintessentially Irish than usual, let's call it for arguments sake 'the Wayne Rooney look' attracts a certain ire and disdain, as regards negative comments about being a 'knacker', etc, etc. The person in question may be a multi lingual graduate, but they're doomed and prejudged from the outset.This has always struck me as an indictment of the self-hating aspect in Irish people.

And there's another particular type of Irish look, let's call it 'the Ryan Tubridy or Brian O'Driscoll look', there's a certain clarity and symmetry to the features and the nose, jawbone and cheekbones are all distinct, the sort of face Fine Gael politicos like Lucinda Creighton have, this sort of face opens doors for you wherever you go in Ireland, there's some sort of subconscious deference to those who have it, it's deemed to be a 'middle class face' or less Celtic and more Anglo-Norman and indicative of some sort of higher intellect or social status.

Schnitzel Muncher

What sort of face do you have, OP?

dd972

Schnitzel Muncher wrote: »

What sort of face do you have, OP?

It's the first type, ie; quintessentially 'Celtic Irish'

Kenny Logins

Is Ryan Tubridy symmetrical? I'm not sure he is.

Iwasfrozen

Schnitzel Muncher wrote: »

What sort of face do you have, OP?

What do you think? He looks like Wayne Rooney. Poor guy.

Andersonisgod

Opened the thread expecting something about extreme right wing groups in Ireland.

Now I'm just extremely disappointed.


Face wise, I look somewhat Mediterranean (probably because I am) so an odd time I will here someone question if I can speak English. I can.

Rayne Wooney

I disagree.

Birneybau

Brian O' Driscoll looks like he has a touch of Downs to be honest

Richard Hillman

dd972 wrote: »

Going to get stick from some quarters for this post, (it is AH ) but nevermind what's the worst that could happen?

There is, to me anyway, a certain phenomenon among Irish people about prejudging people because of the way they look facially, someone who looks more quintessentially Irish than usual, let's call it for arguments sake 'the Wayne Rooney look' attracts a certain ire and disdain, as regards negative comments about being a 'knacker', etc, etc. The person in question may be a multi lingual graduate, but they're doomed and prejudged from the outset.This has always struck me as an indictment of the self-hating aspect in Irish people.

And there's another particular type of Irish look, let's call it 'the Ryan Tubridy or Brian O'Driscoll look', there's a certain clarity and symmetry to the features and the nose, jawbone and cheekbones are all distinct, the sort of face Fine Gael politicos like Lucinda Creighton have, this sort of face opens doors for you wherever you go in Ireland, there's some sort of subconscious deference to those who have it, it's deemed to be a 'middle class face' or less Celtic and more Anglo-Norman and indicative of some sort of higher intellect or social status.

So basically you are saying poor people have a celtic look whilst normal and better off people look "anglo-norman"

kfk

Cant stand Ryan Tubridys face! What a waste of molecules!

Schnitzel Muncher

Where does Joe Duffy fit into this theory?

Mardy Bum

It's all in the genes. Very little anybody can do apart from surgery and a healthy diet. From an evolutionary perspective a sign of good health and therefore more chance of increasing genealogy was facial symmetry so we are "built" to favour this.

Dr Turk Turkelton

This thread needs Facekicker back on boards.
He would know what to do to your face op.

Yamanoto

Birneybau wrote: »

Brian O' Driscoll looks like he has a touch of Downs to be honest

Nice

More David Davin-Power circa 1986 imo

Richard Hillman

Schnitzel Muncher wrote: »

Where does Joe Duffy fit into this theory?

Joe is a man of the people, the little man on the street, the oppressed majority. He defo has the celtic look

Schnitzel Muncher

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Joe is a man of the people, the little man on the street, the oppressed majority. He defo has the celtic look

And Craig Doyle?

Richard Hillman

Schnitzel Muncher wrote: »

And Craig Doyle?

Craig Doyle is not a man of the people because of his constant harassment of the man on the street to purchase UPC materials

Tom_Cruise

I can say with full confidence that i am definitely the ugliest person on this site.

Schnitzel Muncher

I guess I'm somewhere in the middle.

buyer95

On scale of 1 to Adolf Hitler, Rooney is about a 9, I would say.

Schnitzel Muncher

buyer95 wrote: »

On scale of 1 to Adolf Hitler, Rooney is about a 9, I would say.

With Shrek a 7?

buyer95

Schnitzel Muncher wrote: »

With Shrek a 7?

Seemw about right to me.

LETHAL LADY

Is it a phenomenon? You need to steer clear of shallow judgemental backstards OP.

Cody Pomeray

dd972 wrote: »

Going to get stick from some quarters for this post, (it is AH ) but nevermind what's the worst that could happen?

There is, to me anyway, a certain phenomenon among Irish people about prejudging people because of the way they look facially, someone who looks more quintessentially Irish than usual, let's call it for arguments sake 'the Wayne Rooney look' attracts a certain ire and disdain, as regards negative comments about being a 'knacker', etc, etc. The person in question may be a multi lingual graduate, but they're doomed and prejudged from the outset.This has always struck me as an indictment of the self-hating aspect in Irish people.

And there's another particular type of Irish look, let's call it 'the Ryan Tubridy or Brian O'Driscoll look', there's a certain clarity and symmetry to the features and the nose, jawbone and cheekbones are all distinct, the sort of face Fine Gael politicos like Lucinda Creighton have, this sort of face opens doors for you wherever you go in Ireland, there's some sort of subconscious deference to those who have it, it's deemed to be a 'middle class face' or less Celtic and more Anglo-Norman and indicative of some sort of higher intellect or social status.

In terms of facial expression, it's often down to dentistry.

You'd be amazed the effect that braces can have on facial symmetry.

The Irish health service being what they are, braces and good dental care are unaffordable for a lot of low income earners. This can be 'written all over their face', so to speak.

As for other facial features, there is a stereotype in place that middle class young men wear their hair up to medium-long, while lower income young men shave their hair quite short.

But you must realize that Ireland is too small a gene pool, and too genetically cohesive for there to be any genetic difference between lower and middle income earners.

Gee_G

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

I can say with full confidence that i am definitely the ugliest person on this site.

I'd rate Tom Cruise higher than Wayne Rooney or Ryan Tubridy!:)

charlemont

He has a point.

JupiterKid

I agree with facial symmetry playing a role in sexual selection as good symmetry indicates good health and therefore better genetic chances but I don't put much truck into the so-called "Celtic" or "Anglo-Norman" or "foreign" face idea.

Every time I arrive at T2 in Dublin Airport and look at the faces of famous Irish people one thing I notice is how heterogenous they are - there is no stereotypical Irish "look" apart from maybe pale skin and freckles IMO. In my own family, my two sisters and myself look quite different (no, we are not all adopted:pac:) with different face and nose shapes.

IMO jaw and nose size extremes are the strongest determinants for whether a face is attractive, average or ugly. Facial ugliness is all about features being out of balance.

PS: BOD and Ryan Tubridy have very, very different face types. I think the OP is reading into something which is not really there.

PPS: There's hope for you yet OP - a gay porn star from Cuba called Eduardo has a face like Wayne's but that hasn't stopped his career "expanding" over the years...

Ruu

I have more of a round football head like that handsome devil Marty Morrissey.

seven_eleven

Ever notice how there are different groups of people with similar facial people. You always see it, there are many types of it but there are people who are display similar facial features amongst society, then there are unique.

Its the same in every country, and I always wondered if there's a name to it.

hardCopy

Drico and Tubridy are neither similar looking or symmetrical

newmug

OP, you are so far off the mark with this theory, its not even funny. Success in life has absolutely nothing to do with opening doors with your face.