have ye paid your property tax yet?

whelan1

only opened envelope last night.... how did ye value your house?

jomoloney

got no letter only email , completed on line in a jiffy

found the house on the on line website and accepted their valuation

bob charles

and how is this ag related?

whelan1

bob charles wrote: »

and how is this ag related?

was wondering if the house is attached to your yard how is it valued, I am sure I am not the only one in the same boat

ABlur

bob charles wrote: »

and how is this ag related?

Its tax and we hate paying it!

KatyMac

I'm trying to! Got nothing in post. Don't have a credit card so can't do it online. Have sent them emails but got no sensible response yet. Anybody got any ideas that I could try? Also, I'm intending to value house in the lowest possible level as it is in the middle of the yard and not in great condition.

Massey10

KatyMac wrote: »

I'm trying to! Got nothing in post. Don't have a credit card so can't do it online. Have sent them emails but got no sensible response yet. Anybody got any ideas that I could try? Also, I'm intending to value house in the lowest possible level as it is in the middle of the yard and not in great condition.

Id say your ok to valve it at the lowest level so

ootbitb

Dropping down a level here. Nothing on their comparison websites tallies so in the belief that revenue won't undervalue a property it's worth a try.

Are their repercussions though?

Juniorhurler

Ashamed to say that I have.

Stereomaniac

A lot of people who said they wouldn't now have. But it's the law, so that's to be expected..

Technoprisoner

they are already talking about increasing it in 2015 by 15%!!! i wouldnt pay it untill the court case is over anyways

Phoebas

Technoprisoner wrote: »

they are already talking about increasing it in 2015 by 15%!!! i wouldnt pay it untill the court case is over anyways

I haven't heard any council suggesting an increase in 2015. Who are the 'they' here? The newspapers?

ted1

Technoprisoner wrote: »

they are already talking about increasing it in 2015 by 15%!!! i wouldnt pay it untill the court case is over anyways

The law states that each council has the right to increase or decrease it by upto 15% this was public knowledge from day one, but as its quiet in the news they are only talking about it now.

Some councils will increase some will decrease .

Technoprisoner

Phoebas wrote: »

I haven't heard any council suggesting an increase in 2015. Who are the 'they' here? The newspapers?

no .....it was on rte news.....there was a mention that the "valuation" could not be put up until 2016 but from 2015 they could increase the actual amount of tax paid

Milton09

whelan1 wrote: »

was wondering if the house is attached to your yard how is it valued, I am sure I am not the only one in the same boat

A local auctioneer told me that if the house is attached to a farm yard it should be valued low. If you think about it, if you tried to sell a house with a few slattted sheds and silage pits outside the back door and tractors drving by the gable at all hours - how many buyers would you have ? Not many - therefore valuation would be low.

bob charles

Milton09 wrote: »

A local auctioneer told me that if the house is attached to a farm yard it should be valued low. If you think about it, if you tried to sell a house with a few slattted sheds and silage pits outside the back door and tractors drving by the gable at all hours - how many buyers would you have ? Not many - therefore valuation would be low.

the valuation of my neighbors house downwind from my yard must be pittance so:D

nhg

KatyMac wrote: »

I'm trying to! Got nothing in post. Don't have a credit card so can't do it online.

You can enter your bank a/c no & select whatever date you want for the money to be deducted.

brian_t

Milton09 wrote: »

A local auctioneer told me that if the house is attached to a farm yard it should be valued low.

In the IFJ in January they stated that Auctioneers recommended reducing the value by at least 50% relative to a similar house not beside a farmyard.

I doubt if any houses in this situation have been sold separate to the yard so the Revenue have nothing to compare it to.

hju6

http://www.attackthetax.com/index.html
These guys are challenging the legality of the LPT,

iverjohnston

Posted it on Tuesday morning. Cheque. No point in delaying as this one is here to stay. But if I can keep it to the €90/year for the 3 years, that is one positive.
Make no mistake, you can expect to be paying €600 to €800 per annum for the lowest value properties within a decade. Just look at any other jurisdiction, UK or France etc.
Cousin in Lisburn pays over 500 sterling for a standard 3 bed semi, and has done so for years.
Peculiar how Sinn Fein are not protesting about this Tax in Northern Ireland? If a United Ireland was to come into being in the morning, would this Tax disappear? Or would this tax disappear and the dole be set at the UK level of £65 or the Irish level or €200?

Some of the groups campaigning against the Property tax are claiming that you should not pay because the tax is "Draconian", but when was it illegal for a Government to impose a draconian tax rate?

whelan1

looking for 157 euro from me , that is a valuation of 175000.... cant see that being true, tbh, 200 year old farm house that needs work done to it, in the middle of a farmyard

KatyMac

whelan1 wrote: »

looking for 157 euro from me , that is a valuation of 175000.... cant see that being true, tbh, 200 year old farm house that needs work done to it, in the middle of a farmyard

You don't live in my attic do you? That's description of my farm house!!

notsobusy

iverjohnston wrote: »

Posted it on Tuesday morning. Cheque. No point in delaying as this one is here to stay. But if I can keep it to the €90/year for the 3 years, that is one positive.
Make no mistake, you can expect to be paying €600 to €800 per annum for the lowest value properties within a decade. Just look at any other jurisdiction, UK or France etc.
Cousin in Lisburn pays over 500 sterling for a standard 3 bed semi, and has done so for years.
Peculiar how Sinn Fein are not protesting about this Tax in Northern Ireland? If a United Ireland was to come into being in the morning, would this Tax disappear? Or would this tax disappear and the dole be set at the UK level of £65 or the Irish level or €200?

Some of the groups campaigning against the Property tax are claiming that you should not pay because the tax is "Draconian", but when was it illegal for a Government to impose a draconian tax rate?

When I lived in the UK we paid just under £1000 a year for property tax. Two bedroom terraced house. But in a country village so in the higher tax band. But we had our bins collected and water rates were included too as far as I remember.

If the raise the property tax here they would want to decrease other taxes such as car tax.

Also can anyone point me in the direction of a website that would give an estimation valuation. Our house is also attached to the yard.

KatyMac

nhg wrote: »

You can enter your bank a/c no & select whatever date you want for the money to be deducted.

I must need my eyes tested! Never saw that bit when looking online! Have done it now and feel so law abiding.
More like need my head tested!

buffalobilly

See where it says it the booklet that they take into consideration up to 1 acre of ground around house in to value as well would that not put most farms into a higher bracket????

notsobusy

Like shabby sheds and farm buildings and muck?

SCOOP 64

jomoloney wrote: »

got no letter only email , completed on line in a jiffy

found the house on the on line website and accepted their valuation

+1

bbam

Done two weeks ago.

Username John

Paid as well about a week or two ago.

colrow

I'm out of the country and I saw online that there was a deadline, so I phoned the revenue and they told me to use the website and pay online.

I don't know how they know which is my house as we live in a small village and share the same address, the postman knows I live paddy s old house.

brian_t

brian_t wrote: »

In the IFJ in January they stated that Auctioneers recommended reducing the value by at least 50% relative to a similar house not beside a farmyard.

This is from the Farming Independent of May 7th

On a completely separate issue, we got our house valued by an auctioneer to pay our property tax.
................ what really surprised me was the auctioneer said that with the guidelines they were given they are not to reduce the value if the farmhouse is in a yard, which ours is.

http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/getting-busy-in-the-fields-as-crop-growth-kicksin-for-real-29246378.html

People who opt to file online have until May 28 to complete the return electronically.

brian_t

buffalobilly wrote: »

See where it says it the booklet that they take into consideration up to 1 acre of ground around house in to value as well would that not put most farms into a higher bracket????

A further very welcome clarification includes confirmation that agricultural land surrounding a farmhouse need not be included in assessing the value of a property — this contrasts with non-agricultural holdings where up to one acre of surrounding lands need to be included in arriving at a valuation.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/farming/finance/deadline-looms-for-property-tax-returns-231349.html

whelan1

will pay mine tomorrow, deadline is approaching

Sam Kade

Heard on the radio today that they will deduct at source from anyone that doesn't file by the deadline.

crackcrack30

Do you have to pay the household charge prior to being able to pay the property tax ....&

Does the property tax replace the house hold charge????

Sam Kade

crackcrack30 wrote: »

Do you have to pay the household charge prior to being able to pay the property tax ....&

Does the property tax replace the house hold charge????

Yes and yes

brian_t

This is the log-in page for the payment of the tax.

https://lpt.revenue.ie/lpt-web/views/login.html?execution=e1s1

JohnBoy

Just paid it now

whelan1

deadline extended til tomorrow evening

tanko

Does the tax vary much per year between a house worth less than 100k and a house worth between 100k - 150k?

Conmaicne Mara

AH informs me Mary Lou has paid hers.

brian_t

tanko wrote: »

Does the tax vary much per year between a house worth less than 100k and a house worth between 100k - 150k?

Tax for value between 100k - 150k is €112 rising to €225 in a full year.

Tax for value below 100k is €45 rising to €90 in a full year.

After 2016 I suppose we can expect an increase.