BBC Watchdog are investigating

leemaree

http://www.androidauthority.com/watchdog-investigates-galaxy-s4-storage-207052/

leemaree

sorry didn't mean to post here, could u move this to android please? I don't know how to

Davy

leemaree wrote: »

sorry didn't mean to post here, could u move this to android please? I don't know how to

Moved

leemaree

Thanks

ED E

Bit much to pick on samsung when loads of devices, android and WP7 and Im pretty sure iOS have had such issues for ages.

Atomic Pineapple

ED E wrote: »

Bit much to pick on samsung when loads of devices, android and WP7 and Im pretty sure iOS have had such issues for ages.

Indeed, seems pretty stupid, I mean it's not Samsungs fault people are too stupid to realise the OS + features + native apps require require some of the memory to exist.

ED E

How much storage space do I have?

Surface RT:
The 32 GB version has approximately 15 GB free hard disk space.
The 64 GB version has approximately 44 GB free hard disk space.
Surface Pro:
The 64 GB version has approximately 28 GB free hard disk space.
The 128 GB version has approximately 89 GB free hard disk space.

^ Just as bad.

Sonics2k

HTC released the One as a 32GB version of the phone for this very reason, they also did not include a SD slot, whist samsung have.

Sense on the HTC takes up 8GB as does Touchwiz. People are daft if they expect the software to be smaller.

"we demand new features, better screen quality and more, but don't you dare increase the size of OS!!!"

daft I say!

savemejebus

An "investigation" is a bit extreme maybe but touchwiz taking 8 gigs while stock android on the nexus 4 takin less than 3 is crazy too

Tom Dunne

But remember, your Average Joe is not aware of such things as the operating system and so on. They see 16Gb advertised, they expect 16Gb to be available.

theteal

Tom Dunne wrote: »

But remember, your Average Joe is not aware of such things as the operating system and so on. They see 16Gb advertised, they expect 16Gb to be available.

people have been buying computers long enough now to know that actual "system" takes up a decent block of the advertised storage

that OS is huge but these extra features must go somewhere. I would only validate these complaints if the s4 had no SD slot

Tom Dunne

theteal wrote: »

people have been buying computers long enough now to know that actual "system" takes up a decent block of the advertised storage

that OS is huge but these extra features must go somewhere. I would only validate these complaints if the s4 had no SD slot

People? Again, do you think the average Joe can equate a computer with a mobile phone? Sure, you and I know that's what smartphones are, but there is a large demographic who "don't understand Gigabytes" and don't know what an operating system is.

ED E

I'd agree, its misleading and leaning towards morally wrong, but as above they all do it, so to pick on one company is unfair.

pleasant Co.

They're picking on the market leader, so long as they highlight that everyone else does it too then i don't have a problem. The more attention brought to this the more likely actual storage capacity will be advertised.

I don't use android and the vast majority of my phone's 32gb are available to me, but really I'd rather see actual free storage capacity as the marketed figure.

Kavrocks

Tom Dunne wrote: »

But remember, your Average Joe is not aware of such things as the operating system and so on. They see 16Gb advertised, they expect 16Gb to be available.

I don't think its too much to expect to buy a phone (or any device for that matter) advertised with 16 GB of storage space and have the option to use all 16 GB of that.

Its very false and misleading, its something advertising departments are always doing and if this investigation cuts down on this or forces a change in how storage space is advertised then I'd welcome it.

chrislad

This is an easy solution. Make whatever is actually available on the phone the amount of available memory advertised. It's long been a pet peeve of mine the way they do this. It may have 16gb of memory, but if I can only access 8gb and this isn't made clear, it's false advertising. While we're at it, 1000kb is not a MB!

</rant>

Sonics2k

Kavrocks wrote: »

I don't think its too much to expect to buy a phone (or any device for that matter) advertised with 16 GB of storage space and have the option to use all 16 GB of that.

Its very false and misleading, its something advertising departments are always doing and if this investigation cuts down on this or forces a change in how storage space is advertised then I'd welcome it.

The thing is, all manufacturers do it, from PCs, laptops, tablets and phones.

I agree it's a pain when it happens, but it's not right for any one company to get the blame.

Nonoperational

theteal wrote: »

people have been buying computers long enough now to know that actual "system" takes up a decent block of the advertised storage

that OS is huge but these extra features must go somewhere. I would only validate these complaints if the s4 had no SD slot

Ah come off it man. A bit of space for the system sure, but 40% of the capacity?

ED E

All they gotta do is say both, eg: I9300 16GB(8.7 Accessible) and away we go.

Something like that could be easily written into consumer law but f'ck me if we'll see it in our lifetimes with the competency of our government. Fingers crossed the EU does it.

NinjaTruncs

Formatting also takes about 10%. So a 16 gig device is 14.6 gig at most without anything getting loaded onto it.

Kavrocks

Sonics2k wrote: »

The thing is, all manufacturers do it, from PCs, laptops, tablets and phones.

And does that somehow make it right or acceptable?

Sonics2k wrote: »

I agree it's a pain when it happens, but it's not right for any one company to get the blame.

Ah here, Samsung make enough money off people this isn't going to hurt them that much more than anybody else.

Sonics2k

Kavrocks wrote: »

And does that somehow make it right or acceptable?

Nope, it doesn't. Never implied it did.

Kavrocks wrote: »

Ah here, Samsung make enough money off people this isn't going to hurt them that much more than anybody else.

Apple make more, as do Microsoft.

My point is, it's fine to launch an investigation into this, it's not fine to make a patsy out of one company it's become cool to hate.