cidrs?

whelan1

vet was handling a few cows this morning and put in some cidrs, we always estrumate day 9 and take out day 10. Read the packaging and it says inject day6 and take out day 7, so what do you do?

tismesoitis

inj day 8 pull day 9.

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

vet was handling a few cows this morning and put in some cidrs, we always estrumate day 9 and take out day 10. Read the packaging and it says inject day6 and take out day 7, so what do you do?

Do you find them any good. We always got mixed results. We used to spend a fortune on cows that were not cycling but gae up as return on monies spent on hormones and scanning was not returned.

BTW you can reuse cidrs again. Remove put in foil and keep dry and use again

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Do you find them any good. We always got mixed results. We used to spend a fortune on cows that were not cycling but gae up as return on monies spent on hormones and scanning was not returned.

BTW you can reuse cidrs again. Remove put in foil and keep dry and use again

ah i just want heats from these ones, have given them cyclix but got no heats- got no heats at all from a full bottle of it... deffo going back to estrumate

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

ah i just want heats from these ones, have given them cyclix but got no heats- got no heats at all from a full bottle of it... deffo going back to estrumate

What's the rush you are still in early Feb?

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

What's the rush you are still in early Feb?

2 of them are carryover cows.....other are the first of this years that havent been in heat

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

2 of them are carryover cows.....other are the first of this years that havent been in heat

Have you them tailpainted? Moo monitor may have missed them.
how long are you serving spring cows?

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Have you them tailpainted? Moo monitor may have missed them.
how long are you serving spring cows?

just over 3 weeks serving, scanned autumn calvers in march, a few other ones that where not in calf have been served.... no vet said there was no activity in these at all

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

just over 3 weeks serving, scanned autumn calvers in march, a few other ones that where not in calf have been served.... no vet said there was no activity in these at all

Yoy tell us you have wet land yet you calve some of your cows in jan......does this make sence?
If you calved them later perhaps you could free up more of your silage ground for grzing

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Yoy tell us you have wet land yet you calve some of your cows in jan......does this make sence?
If you calved them later perhaps you could free up more of your silage ground for grzing

i dont do big batch calving. spread it over a few months. as i leave calves on cows for a week i cant deal with big numbers. lowest calf deaths in 5 years this year. sure you never know we might get good weather next january

keep going

we leave in the vets -i wonder all this intervention to try and get cows in calf is it worth it .are you just breeding it back into your herd by getting them in calf and spending a heap of money in the process.is aibp the best cure for infertility

whelan1

this is the first time in 2013 i got vet to handle cows, so this is may.... have culled a few of the other ones that where not in calf, the fact they didnt come in heat with the cyclix meant they had a problem, vet visit wasnt only for these cows was for a multitude of things so wont have cost me too much

Timmaay

whelan1 wrote: »

i dont do big batch calving. spread it over a few months. as i leave calves on cows for a week i cant deal with big numbers. lowest calf deaths in 5 years this year. sure you never know we might get good weather next january

I take it ya still bring the fresh calvers in for milking, OAD? We traditionally left the cow on the calf for similar, but I've less patience myself I'll admit, and take the calf off sooner. Having the calving shed 100m away from the parlour, and awkward to bring the cows in didn't help. Can't say I noticed any diff in calf deaths, less probably, I didn't move around calf between pins much, and cleanes out pins more often when we did.

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

I take it ya still bring the fresh calvers in for milking, OAD? We traditionally left the cow on the calf for similar, but I've less patience myself I'll admit, and take the calf off sooner. Having the calving shed 100m away from the parlour, and awkward to bring the cows in didn't help. Can't say I noticed any diff in calf deaths, less probably, I didn't move around calf between pins much, and cleanes out pins more often when we did.

we have every calf disease here more or less possible, calves have to get the rotavec corona biestings for a week or so anyways and i find they get a better start by being on the cow for the week, but everyone is different and this works for us... yup milk the cows in the morning only

Timmaay

keep going wrote: »

we leave in the vets -i wonder all this intervention to try and get cows in calf is it worth it .are you just breeding it back into your herd by getting them in calf and spending a heap of money in the process.is aibp the best cure for infertility

Our problem the last yr or so was the replacements were not there, so no other choice to keep them. We bought in some replacements, but thats a lottery also, a farmer only sells his 2nds. Any fertility problems are a viscous circle I'll admit, doing as ya say and just culling the problem is expensive also upfront, but where do ya draw the line. I know some cows we tried everything on still ended up on the meathook.