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Hitting Shots Thin
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06-05-2013 7:13pm#1
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I wouldnt just put it in the middle, draw a line on the grass in the middle of your stance and make some practice swings keeping the line in the middle.
Note where your divots are starting. The ball should be just behind the start of the divot, its going to be a personal thing more than "place ball in position X".
I'm in a similar situation to OP in that I don't/can't seem to make a divot. Even on practice swings
I've never taken divots either so not a new thing.
Short game has been improving of late but long irons are letting me down.
I've a feeling I place the ball too far forward for long irons and will try to move ball back to see how that works.
Had a series of lessons last year, on range mats, so divots weren't to the forefront of my mind. But the pro did get me to move the ball back at these. Think I've reverted back to my old ways when I took it to the course.
Just wondering if there's anything else I should be trying to do. I've a feeling that my right hand/wrist is quite "weak" during impact. I don't feel like I'm "smashing" the ball through impact and it has been mentioned by several others that I don't rotate my wrist much through impact.
I also get a nice shoulder rotation on the back swing but have a feeling I am too parallel with them on downswing.
Like OP, I will struggle to get the time to get lessons/work on this.
With a 6 month old, I'm just about scrapping through with the weekly comp or a quick 9 midweek at the moment.
Any thinkering is limited to the back garden or a sneaky hour before or after the comp.
Ball position will definitely be worked on.
Appreciate the danger of getting lessons online, but it'd be interesting to if there's any other pointers out re a "weak/neutral" right hand/wrist.0 -
ajcurry123 wrote: »I'm in a similar situation to OP in that I don't/can't seem to make a divot. Even on practice swings
I've never taken divots either so not a new thing.
Short game has been improving of late but long irons are letting me down.
I've a feeling I place the ball too far forward for long irons and will try to move ball back to see how that works.
Had a series of lessons last year, on range mats, so divots weren't to the forefront of my mind. But the pro did get me to move the ball back at these. Think I've reverted back to my old ways when I took it to the course.
Just wondering if there's anything else I should be trying to do. I've a feeling that my right hand/wrist is quite "weak" during impact. I don't feel like I'm "smashing" the ball through impact and it has been mentioned by several others that I don't rotate my wrist much through impact.
I also get a nice shoulder rotation on the back swing but have a feeling I am too parallel with them on downswing.
Like OP, I will struggle to get the time to get lessons/work on this.
With a 6 month old, I'm just about scrapping through with the weekly comp or a quick 9 midweek at the moment.
Any thinkering is limited to the back garden or a sneaky hour before or after the comp.
Ball position will definitely be worked on.
Appreciate the danger of getting lessons online, but it'd be interesting to if there's any other pointers out re a "weak/neutral" right hand/wrist.
Hmm, I know it will probably start lots of disagreement (but sure when has that stopped me?
) but you "have" to be taking some sort of divot to hit the ball properly with irons (and its no bad thing with woods either)
I play all my shots maybe an inch or so inside my left heel and take a divot, so its not ball position thats your problem.
I would also forget about trying to smash it or rotate your arms, all of that happens as a result of a good swing. Any time I stop taking divots its usually because I have gotten too closed at the top (either through a strong grip or poor setup) and so the only way to hit the ball straight is to hold the club off and swing in to out. (Holding it off will look like you are preventing the release...)
This forces you to take a shallow swing and hence no divot.
Next time you get out to practice (and you can do this at the range but not as effective) line up the ball with the logo pointing 45 degrees left of centre and try to hit it along that line. Forget about where the ball is going (or where you think it will go) and just focus on that, dont worry about your backswing or anything else, just swing down along that line (out to in) and I bet you strike the ball as well as you ever have (and its probably going pretty straight)0 -
Hmm, I know it will probably start lots of disagreement (but sure when has that stopped me?) but you "have" to be taking some sort of divot to hit the ball properly with irons (and its no bad thing with woods either)
I play all my shots maybe an inch or so inside my left heel and take a divot, so its not ball position thats your problem.
I would also forget about trying to smash it or rotate your arms, all of that happens as a result of a good swing. Any time I stop taking divots its usually because I have gotten too closed at the top (either through a strong grip or poor setup) and so the only way to hit the ball straight is to hold the club off and swing in to out. (Holding it off will look like you are preventing the release...)
This forces you to take a shallow swing and hence no divot.
Next time you get out to practice (and you can do this at the range but not as effective) line up the ball with the logo pointing 45 degrees left of centre and try to hit it along that line. Forget about where the ball is going (or where you think it will go) and just focus on that, dont worry about your backswing or anything else, just swing down along that line (out to in) and I bet you strike the ball as well as you ever have (and its probably going pretty straight)
Back to Trackman (my favourite topic at the moment
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http://www.andrewricegolf.com/2013/02/compress-the-golf-ball/
and this one agrees with Greebo in terms of out to in with irons is good
http://www.andrewricegolf.com/tag/trackman-article/0 -
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Hmm, I know it will probably start lots of disagreement (but sure when has that stopped me?) but you "have" to be taking some sort of divot to hit the ball properly with irons (and its no bad thing with woods either)
Are you counting a tiny nip of the ground as a divot? I barely disturb the grass... (What can I say, I'm a pacifist)
Seriously, I rarely if ever take a divot...and when I do it's usually as a result of a duffed shot.
I have never struck a shot "pure"
and looked up to see a sod of turf flying in the air.I play all my shots maybe an inch or so inside my left heel and take a divot, so its not ball position thats your problem.
I would also forget about trying to smash it or rotate your arms, all of that happens as a result of a good swing. Any time I stop taking divots its usually because I have gotten too closed at the top (either through a strong grip or poor setup) and so the only way to hit the ball straight is to hold the club off and swing in to out. (Holding it off will look like you are preventing the release...)
This forces you to take a shallow swing and hence no divot.
Next time you get out to practice (and you can do this at the range but not as effective) line up the ball with the logo pointing 45 degrees left of centre and try to hit it along that line. Forget about where the ball is going (or where you think it will go) and just focus on that, dont worry about your backswing or anything else, just swing down along that line (out to in) and I bet you strike the ball as well as you ever have (and its probably going pretty straight)
Will try that out.
I got similar advice on the Post Your Swing thread and never really worked on it, but I will try to do so over the next month.
Looking at some more feedback from that thread...( ignored as well )
I wasn't following through with the weight transfer onto my left foot(after originally thinking I had too much weight on my left)
I seem to be falling back on my right foot causing shoulder to block out... maybe this has something to do the lack of a divot...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055541970&page=14
Bugger, should have ignored this thread, head will be messed up for a few weeks 0
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