garda shopping

LoveCoke

Are gardai allow to shop in supermarket in uniform and driving the garda car? It would seem holding up a car even if he is on break

belcampprisoner

what type of shopping,is a full shop or just a few things,

Duberlin Chick

Up to 9 hours spent in the car.... I think they're entitled to pick up something to eat. My god!

LoveCoke

Duberlin Chick wrote: »

Up to 9 hours spent in the car.... I think they're entitled to pick up something to eat. My god!

you are just trying to make fun of it, you do not know how long he was in a garda car

LoveCoke

belcampprisoner wrote: »

what type of shopping,is a full shop or just a few things,

few things. is that relevant?

Duberlin Chick

Did you read my post? It's possible they spend up to 9 hours in a car. Sorry. Should have spelled it out.

keith16

LoveCoke wrote: »

Are gardai allow to shop in supermarket in uniform and driving the garda car? It would seem holding up a car even if he is on break

How do you know he wasn't getting supplies for the station?

Praetorian Saighdiuir

LoveCoke wrote: »

you are just trying to make fun of it, you do not know how long he was in a garda car

Well, was the guard getting lunch or getting a full trolley shop?

Did you see the car or are you assuming he had a station car?

Is it possible that the guard was coming off or going on duty? If so, would the guard be using their personal vehicle.

LoveCoke

keith16 wrote: »

How do you know he wasn't getting supplies for the station?

fair question did not look like station supplies. What would they be

keith16

LoveCoke wrote: »

fair question did not look like station supplies. What would they be

What did it look like? And what was in the trolley to make it look like it wasn't station supplies?

SB2013

LoveCoke wrote: »

Are gardai allow to shop in supermarket in uniform and driving the garda car? It would seem holding up a car even if he is on break

Car is not much good if the driver is on his break. Are you just here to complain about a Garda picking up his lunch? Why are you even in Legal Discussion? You'd probably get an answer more to your liking in AH. If in doubt, complain to the Ombudsman.

LoveCoke

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

Well, was the guard getting lunch or getting a full trolley shop?

maybe 6 items

Did you see the car or are you assuming he had a station car?

yes in fact i wondered if the shop had some shoplifing going in to see him pick his shopping from the shelf

Is it possible that the guard was coming off or going on duty? If so, would the guard be using their personal vehicle.

not unless he owns a garda car

corkonion

I saw a bus driver buying a sandwich last week.

LoveCoke

SB2013 wrote: »

Car is not much good if the driver is on his break. Are you just here to complain about a Garda picking up his lunch? Why are you even in Legal Discussion? You'd probably get an answer more to your liking in AH. If in doubt, complain to the Ombudsman.

where did i complain? i asked a question

Why are you even in Legal Discussion?

strangely enough i was wondering what the law was
AH for a legal question.
I never said anything about complaining to anyone i just asked a question

Praetorian Saighdiuir

LoveCoke wrote: »

where did i complain? i asked a question
strangely enough i was wondering what the law was
AH for a legal question.
I never said anything about complaining to anyone i just asked a question

Maybe you should ask in the Emergency Services forum. Im sure they could give you an answer to the question.

Failing that, your local AGS station or local TD if you are that concerned.

LoveCoke

keith16 wrote: »

What did it look like? And what was in the trolley to make it look like it wasn't station supplies?

it was not a trolley just maybe 6 six items

Duberlin Chick

There is no law with regard to Gardai buying food or eating during their shift.

LoveCoke

Duberlin Chick wrote: »

Did you read my post? It's possible they spend up to 9 hours in a car. Sorry. Should have spelled it out.

ignoring your comments since you seem to be trolling or trying to make fun of the question

keith16

LoveCoke wrote: »

it was not a trolley just maybe 6 six items

6 items sounds entirely plausible for some station items. I'll ask again, what of those items made it look like this wasn't the case?

LoveCoke

keith16 wrote: »

6 items sounds entirely plausible for some station items. I'll ask again, what of those items made it look like this wasn't the case?

and i will ask again what would station supplies be?

MarkR

I'll make it easier OP. Why do you think the guard shouldn't be allowed to buy something in uniform?

Pacing Mule

LoveCoke wrote: »

and i will ask again what would station supplies be?

So you'd like to have listes out every possible item that could come under station supplies rather than you list the 6 items you saw ?

Praetorian Saighdiuir

LoveCoke wrote: »

and i will ask again what would station supplies be?

Much the same as what's in a normal shop.

The makings of tea/coffee
Stuff that can be microwaved
Sandwich making items
Kitchen roll, tinfoil etc.
Cleaning items

Etc.

Not nappies or gardening stuff :rolleyes:

Uriel.

keith16 wrote: »

6 items sounds entirely plausible for some station items. I'll ask again, what of those items made it look like this wasn't the case?

It's largely irrelevant anyway as nobody knows what was going on, including the op.

Most likely just an attempt to bash the gards or something

SB2013

LoveCoke wrote: »

ignoring your comments since you seem to be trolling or trying to make fun of the question

Well it's a very stupid question to be honest. But to answer it for you, no, it is not illegal for a Garda to buy something, or even eat it, while in uniform.

Wicklowandy

LoveCoke wrote: »

ignoring your comments since you seem to be trolling or trying to make fun of the question

I've actually reread the op a few times, and the whole thread seems a hybrid of Garda bashing and plain ol trolling.

A garda on patrol in a squad car is mobile for the majority of his or her shift and I would assume that they get a break when they have time, and finish the break if they get a call whether their hour is up or not.

Maybe they should have drove past the shop to the station, changed, got their own car and went to the shop. And if a call came in that the OPs house was being broken into they should have drove back to the station, changed back into uniform and got back into the squad car to respond.

Hopefully you can see the problem with this:)

keith16

Uriel. wrote: »

It's largely irrelevant anyway as nobody knows what was going on, including the op.

Most likely just an attempt to bash the gards or something

Indeed. Guard may well have just finished a shift and not even have been driving that car. Unless the OP saw him get into the car with the mysterious 6 items.

Funny that the OP can't seem to recall what those items were....probably in too much of a hurry to be outraged.

LoveCoke

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

Much the same as what's in a normal shop.

The makings of tea/coffee
Stuff that can be microwaved
Sandwich making items
Kitchen roll, tinfoil etc.
Cleaning items

Etc.

Not nappies or gardening stuff :rolleyes:

not really more like take home meal stuff really.not ready meal. no cofffe no microwave or sandwich or cleaning

HeidiHeidi

Are gardai not allowed to eat anything but sandwiches and ready meals during their breaks (and the obligatory doughnuts, of course)

Maybe he/she was buying the makings of a.... you know.... healthy dinner, to cook in the station?

This is the most bizarre of the garda bashing threads I've seen in a long time :eek:

Praetorian Saighdiuir

LoveCoke wrote: »

not really more like take home meal stuff really.not ready meal. no cofffe no microwave or sandwich or cleaning

Ah ok....he was taking the piss so. You should get his number next time and report him.

Uriel.

LoveCoke wrote: »

not really more like take home meal stuff really.not ready meal. no cofffe no microwave or sandwich or cleaning

Wish you had have taken a video of him trying to squeeze the 50" LED into his basket

LoveCoke

Wicklowandy wrote: »

I've actually reread the op a few times, and the whole thread seems a hybrid of Garda bashing and plain ol trolling.

A garda on patrol in a squad car is mobile for the majority of his or her shift and I would assume that they get a break when they have time, and finish the break if they get a call whether their hour is up or not.

Maybe they should have drove past the shop to the station, changed, got their own car and went to the shop. And if a call came in that the OPs house was being broken into they should have drove back to the station, changed back into uniform and got back into the squad car to respond.

Hopefully you can see the problem with this:)

very defensive, i am not trolling nor outraged. indeed you folks seems out raged i should even question. It makes me wonder.

Maybe they should have drove past the shop to the station, changed, got their own car and went to the shop

and left the car to garda who was not busy shopping if a call came through.

timmywex

LoveCoke wrote: »

not really more like take home meal stuff really.not ready meal. no cofffe no microwave or sandwich or cleaning

Your questions been answered, Gardai are entitled to breaks like anyone else, and shock horror, they even get to eat nowadays :eek:

LoveCoke wrote: »

and left the car to garda who was not busy shopping if a call came through.

you can be sure he would have taken the call had one come through

LoveCoke

MarkR wrote: »

I'll make it easier OP. Why do you think the guard shouldn't be allowed to buy something in uniform?

read my op i did not say he wasn't i asked a question. it looks bad to me with shortage of gardai but i did not say he wasn't.

keith16

LoveCoke wrote: »

very defensive, i am not trolling nor outraged. indeed you folks seems out raged i should even question. It makes me wonder.
and left the car to garda who was not busy shopping if a call came through.

Well why didn't you challenge him on the spot?

LoveCoke

timmywex wrote: »

Your questions been answered, Gardai are entitled to breaks like anyone else, and shock horror, they even get to eat nowadays :eek:




you can be sure he would have taken the call had one come through

how do ypu know what he would have done

Praetorian Saighdiuir

I'm calling shenanigans on the OP.

All guards get free food while on duty from petrol stations.

belcampprisoner

my take would be if they were buying food to eat they can,if they did a whole supermarket shop then no,or if they went clothes shopping or tv shopping then no,you could call up the garda station to complain or your local td


in America they bring the whole fire truck and 8 firemen,as they cook in the station,people complained but it was decided they were able to still get to a fire

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Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

I'm calling shenanigans on the OP.

All guards get free food while on duty from petrol stations.

really??? You've been in ALL petrol stations.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Tate Ambitious Sympathizer wrote: »

really??? You've been in ALL petrol stations.

You seem to have ignored my first sentence and have no sarcasm detector

Aineoil

The poor guard doing a bit of shopping in uniform - that's tame. When on holidays in Italy I have seen the police drink and smoke in uniform. I don't think our guards would get away with doing that? Not that I would have a problem if they did.

He could have been off duty, on a break or getting supplies for the station - all of these scenarios have been mentioned all ready.

LoveCoke

Aineoil wrote: »

The poor guard doing a bit of shopping in uniform - that's tame. When on holidays in Italy I have seen the police drink and smoke in uniform. I don't think our guards would get away with doing that? Not that I would have a problem if they did.

He could have been off duty, on a break or getting supplies for the station - all of these scenarios have been mentioned all ready.

i am talking about ireland. if off duty it looks bad to me holding up a squad car.

SB2013

belcampprisoner wrote: »

my take would be if they were buying food to eat they can,if they did a whole supermarket shop then no,or if they went clothes shopping or tv shopping then no,you could call up the garda station to complain or your local td


in America they bring the whole fire truck and 8 firemen,as they cook in the station,people complained but it was decided they were able to still get to a fire

Many Gardaí also do this. Stations have cooking facilities. They are not expected to live off microwave meals and deli counters.

SB2013

LoveCoke wrote: »

i am talking about ireland. if off duty it looks bad to me holding up a squad car.

Holding up a squad car from what exactly?

LoveCoke

SB2013 wrote: »

Holding up a squad car from what exactly?

from being available to someone who is not shopping and can respond to a call. If you think the shopper can respond fair enough but my op was just are they allowed to shop in uniform and driving a garda car

SB2013

LoveCoke wrote: »

from being available to someone who is not shopping and can respond to a call. If you think the shopper can respond fair enough but my op was just are they allowed to shop in uniform and driving a garda car

Why would he not be able to respond? Never mind. Your op has been answered. Hopefully you can sleep soundly tonight.

intospace

...wow...

Sacksian

As far as I remember, Statutory Instrument 63/2009 (informally dubbed the "conveyance for convenience act"), expressly FORBIDS trousered emergency service personnel from using official vehicles for "errands, messages and groceries".

It's been a while since I've encountered it, so might be mistaken about the specific act.

LoveCoke

SB2013 wrote: »

Why would he not be able to respond? Never mind. Your op has been answered. Hopefully you can sleep soundly tonight.

don't worry i would never mind anything you say. my op was not would he be able to respond it was are they allowed to do it. But most replies are not objective

Aineoil

LoveCoke
Just saying we don't have all the facts - for example if the guard was off duty and had to change into civies to do the shopping - that would be a greater waste of time? I quoted what I saw in Italy as the way different cultures perceive a police force. I am not a guard and I don't know one, but if wearing a uniform singles you out in community as having to behave different - I don't understand that. I am not taking a hop off you.

timmywex

Worth noting aswell OP that the station has to buy supplies for prisoners, cause in some areas on some nights of the week there aren't 24 hour mcdonalds and things, and prisoners need to eat aswell :P