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How many of your friends and or family are racist?

  • 05-05-2013 9:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭


    I can't be the only one that hears regular racist comments dropped into every day chit chat.

    How often do you hear racist stuff being said?

    My examples over the last few weeks and months;

    - Bus driver (black) beeping at children to move aside on their BMX's? ..."You fcuking n1gger, fcuk off back to your own country n1gger"...kids aye?
    - Random dude in a Spar when a black man in front of him paid for his stuff and left the premises...."They're like a vermon they are, once they get in they take over the place" ...??? Big man when the bigger man has gone!
    - Friend in the pub..."Driving down the motorway, this stupid n1gger pulls out in front of me" ...No white person has ever been stupid?
    - Elder Friend after the recent Dominique Strauss Kahn rape trial..."She was a black cleaner...maybe he didnt rape, maybe he only touched off her"...???WTF!!
    - Guy in a pub in town..."I'm telling you, all those black drivers [taxi] are double-jobbing. Sure they have one fella in the picture and a few of them drive the car...I love hailing one down and when I see he's black, I tell him to fcuk off"....ok wait in the cold you fool?

    I really don't know what to say or do in these situations? Every time anything racist is said I kinda know that the majority of people sitting around me, Irish people, aren't actually racist but not really arsed defending the racism stance. When these racist people have children, they will just continue the trend of racism by dropping racist comments in front of the kids or the kids of their friends.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Your friends / family are a LOT more racist than mine then!

    I never hear stuff like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Extremely cleverly way of getting a racist point across OP?


    next up, the bus stop and pram tale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭HazDanz


    We are all racist! In a heart warming way. Like a hot chocolate on a cold winters night. Is that the right answer :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Triangular


    Not racist at all, I've experienced racism in front of me, I can't be alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭HazDanz


    Triangular wrote: »
    Not racist at all, I've experienced racism in front of me, I can't be alone.

    Your name makes me think of pythagoras theorem. Is that racist?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    several of the people I work with are routinely racist, especially about Nigerians, Romanians and Travellers.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Triangular


    HazDanz wrote: »
    Your name makes me think of pythagoras theorem. Is that racist?


    I don't mean to evoke racist thoughts by it, maybe you're just naturally racist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I see a lot of anti-immigration and anti-multiculturialism, but I'm not sure if it qualifies as racism. Still comes acrossas ignorant, though - especially when, half an hour later, they're ordering a chinese or indian takeaway...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭HazDanz


    Triangular wrote: »
    I don't mean to evoke racist thoughts by it, maybe you're just naturally racist?

    Being naturally racist does that excuse the racism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Triangular


    Racism is never excusable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Supraman


    There's a couple of mates would have racist comments from time to time . That said I've no issue with hispanic , chinese , indian , black , eastern european etc. Roma gypsies and travellers I don't have any fondness for if I'm honest . I don't know if that's racism on my part or something else but my experiences with both of these kinds of people would be very negative .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭wallyMe




    Johnny Rebel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭Duzzer


    I've a lot of black friends who can be quite racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I have an aunt that is an unreal racist. Anytime she is about to come out with some bile she always prefaces it with "I'm not a racist but...".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    All of them, but then again I am president of the N.R.A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Triangular


    those people sound nasty



    Welcome to Dublins public transport network.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭plannerscanner


    Racism is def rife in Ireland in the ways that we speak about and perceive foreigners of all colours and creeds. I would be interested to know if there have been any incidents of violent racist crimes in the country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,771 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I can't fap to porn with black people in it. Aside from making me go semi, nothing against them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Triangular wrote: »
    I can't be the only one that hears regular racist comments dropped into every day chit chat.

    How often do you hear racist stuff being said?

    My examples over the last few weeks and months;

    - Bus driver (black) beeping at children to move aside on their BMX's? ..."You fcuking n1gger, fcuk off back to your own country n1gger"...kids aye?

    The bus driver was black?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    what do you call a black pilot?
    a pilot


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    I often hear people saying stuff about travellers, but more often than not the traveller family they're giving out about has done something. It's not a case of travellers are....[insert insult here]

    Is it really racism against travellers anyway? They're white Irish people like the majority of the population, they aren't a separate race. I'd call the negative attitude and comments towards them as bigotry, but not racism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Triangular


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    The bus driver was black?


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Triangular wrote: »
    Yes.
    That's ok then. They're allowed to say the N word. Us honkys aren't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    That's ok then. They're allowed to say the N word. Us honkys aren't.

    er?...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    That's ok then. They're allowed to say the N word. Us honkys aren't.

    I think you're misreading the OP...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Nodin wrote: »
    I think you're misreading the OP...
    Oh the kids were being racist sh1ts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    Oh the kids were being racist sh1ts?

    Ja.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Triangular


    Yeah, twas the kids shouting at him after he beeped them.

    Same kids probably idolise Tupac and Biggie...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    I've encountered more racism from foreign workers towards other races of foreign workers if I'm being honest. I've often heard my colleague from Nepal making racist remarks about my other colleague from China and visa versa.

    I've often heard Polish people pass remarks on Latvian people and Roma people too.

    So, I guess racism is everywhere - not just a thing white people have a monopoly on. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I've encountered more racism from foreign workers towards other races of foreign workers if I'm being honest. I've often heard my colleague from Nepal making racist remarks about my other colleague from China and visa versa.

    I've often heard Polish people pass remarks on Latvian people and Roma people too.

    So, I guess racism is everywhere - not just a thing white people have a monopoly on. :confused:
    Achieving a state of absolute non racism is a step along the path to zen i guess. Casual racism is everywhere, even in the most tolerant heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    ive seen a bit of casual racism, but never seen proper/actual racism where a foreign person was directly discriminated or abused due to their race.

    Irish people in my opinion are familiar respectful when it comes to other races, but i dont think the same can be said for some other nationalities who come here.

    you will get idiots in every place of course, but these people are not only racist, but just downright ignorent, they abuse anybody and dont care about race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    TheUsual wrote: »
    All of them, but then again I am president of the N.R.A.

    How's the road business?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I see a lot of anti-immigration and anti-multiculturialism, but I'm not sure if it qualifies as racism. Still comes acrossas ignorant, though - especially when, half an hour later, they're ordering a chinese or indian takeaway...

    I don't think anyone would complain about new people coming into a country but its the rate that concerns people. Europe especially is letting far to many people in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭Seans_Username


    Remmy wrote: »
    I have an aunt that is an unreal racist.

    I read that very wrong and thought that you were saying your aunt was a brilliant racist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I've encountered more racism from foreign workers towards other races of foreign workers if I'm being honest. I've often heard my colleague from Nepal making racist remarks about my other colleague from China and visa versa.

    I've often heard Polish people pass remarks on Latvian people and Roma people too.

    So, I guess racism is everywhere - not just a thing white people have a monopoly on. :confused:

    What if its just human nature and we are really just tribal a heart? The melting pot idea may never really work. How many countries have rejoined each other. Germany is the only one i can think of and they are ethnically and racially the same. Yugoslavia split on ethnic grounds, we in Ireland have split on ethnic grounds. Czechoslovakia split on ethnic grounds, Russia, Why is Belgium looking at splitting and Spain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I read that very wrong and thought that you were saying your aunt was a brilliant racist

    Silly choice of words there alright :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I'm an equal opportunities racist. I hate everyone equally, regardless of race, religion, sex, colour of their skin.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭aman23


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    Oh the kids were being racist sh1ts?

    only if they weren't black!:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    HazDanz wrote: »
    Your name makes me think of pythagoras theorem. Is that racist?

    That is one angle you could look at it from I suppose.. Is it the right angle though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭Itwasntme.


    My dad threatened to disown my brother when he introduced his Iranian girlfriend (now ex) to us. The strange thing is that my other brother is married to a white american and he didn't give him as much grief. I guess my dad had hoped that this son would be the one to carry on the family name. :confused::confused: I know he wouldn't be happy if I got with someone foreign either but it doesn't really matter because culturally, the burden of carrying on the family name falls on the boys and really, I couldn't give a toss who they think I should end up with. I will get with whomever I want! Form an orderly queue boys :D. One should never miss an opportunity.

    So in answer to your question, yeah, some of my family members are racist as are a lot of my friends back home actually :(.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭zef


    Called into a friend to see if he needed anything from the shop, as he is getting on a bit and not able to walk very well due to an accident at work.
    The guy from the next apartment was there , on a rant about how "fags get all the bleedin' conlcil 'ousin' where Oi come from' (UK). This guy is trying to say the least.
    My friend was just getting his money ready and the other guy starts telling me a story - 'So this n*****, yea, he come up to me an..." .
    "Sorry , what did you say? This what?"
    "C**n' he replied. "I was shocked -- "WHAT???" I repeated.
    "This fackin' black guy came up to me..."
    I just walked out of the room. Funny thing is , he goes on about how "they" get all the houses here and in his native UK, you'd think he was working 60 hours a week and paying 95% tax the way he goes on. He's on RA and the JSA.

    An unpleasant person if I ever met one. I never go in now if he's in my mates house. The worst thing about it is my mate dates a woman from Ghana and his best friend is a Romanian guy. The thick **** next door can't see how offensive he is, it'd be politer to take a sh*t in the corner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Sparklygirl


    I have a friend who would claim to be rascist but at the same time she seems to judge each individual on their own merits, she would say she is rascist but is happy to be friends with someone who is black. I think that what she really means is that she has negative associations with black people. But here is the thing, we all do, even black people who take the harvard test (you can access it on line) have these negative associations. The test is where you have to link words together very very quickly without thinking about them, basically on impulse- a basic example is would you associate drugs/guns with white or black. Malcolm Gladwell- author of many books including Blink discusses this. He noted that a black colleague of his, took the test every day as a matter of course and always made negative associations, however one day he didn't- he made positive associations and he thought a lot about why that had happened, it turned out he had watched the olympics for the weekend prior to taking the test and thus made positive associations with his race. Malcolm Gladwell is an excellent writer who I would hold in high esteem, he is black. He would hypothesize that as long as black people are associated with negatives in society such as drugs, guns, being a fatherless race for example in films then we will continue to make these associations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Malcolm Gladwell- author of many books including Blink discusses this. He noted that a black colleague of his, took the test every day as a matter of course and always made negative associations, however one day he didn't- he made positive associations and he thought a lot about why that had happened, it turned out he had watched the olympics for the weekend prior to taking the test and thus made positive associations with his race. Malcolm Gladwell is an excellent writer who I would hold in high esteem, he is black. He would hypothesize that as long as black people are associated with negatives in society such as drugs, guns, being a fatherless race for example in films then we will continue to make these associations.

    he isn't black he's of mixed descent



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Racism is gay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Any Clare regs in front of me will be getting blown off the road :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Brinimartini


    Triangular wrote: »
    I can't be the only one that hears regular racist comments dropped into every day chit chat.

    How often do you hear racist stuff being said?

    My examples over the last few weeks and months;

    - Bus driver (black) beeping at children to move aside on their BMX's? ..."You fcuking n1gger, fcuk off back to your own country n1gger"...kids aye?
    - Random dude in a Spar when a black man in front of him paid for his stuff and left the premises...."They're like a vermon they are, once they get in they take over the place" ...??? Big man when the bigger man has gone!
    - Friend in the pub..."Driving down the motorway, this stupid n1gger pulls out in front of me" ...No white person has ever been stupid?
    - Elder Friend after the recent Dominique Strauss Kahn rape trial..."She was a black cleaner...maybe he didnt rape, maybe he only touched off her"...???WTF!!
    - Guy in a pub in town..."I'm telling you, all those black drivers [taxi] are double-jobbing. Sure they have one fella in the picture and a few of them drive the car...I love hailing one down and when I see he's black, I tell him to fcuk off"....ok wait in the cold you fool?

    I really don't know what to say or do in these situations? Every time anything racist is said I kinda know that the majority of people sitting around me, Irish people, aren't actually racist but not really arsed defending the racism stance. When these racist people have children, they will just continue the trend of racism by dropping racist comments in front of the kids or the kids of their friends.

    You make it sound like it's a bad thing to be racist ! Like, I hate **** but generally love black people,......what am I?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Chris Rock


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    I had a Granny who I used to tease that I was going to marry a black woman wherever I went... a Summer gone inter-railing, a trip to Chicago, a year on Erasmus in Vienna. She was unconcerned with any other non-white race, her sole pre-ocuupation when we were abroad was doing the business specifically with black women.

    Needless to say she was very relieved when I came out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭cup of tea


    The Irish way....once the racism can be classed under the heading of banter then it's not racist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    cup of tea wrote: »
    The Irish way....once the racism can be classed under the heading of banter then it's not racist
    The "Irish" way...

    Not to make any national stereotypes or anything, right?


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