raise your IQ !! Overhyped nonsense?

evolving_doors

So from what I gather from the news report this company has infiltrated schools and claimed to have improved kids IQ by doing what? You guessed it...making kids practice how to do IQ tests on computers...

Does anyone think this is sus?

The Backwards Man

We dindt have no iq tests when me was at school at it ain't dun me no harm.

AlmightyCushion

The only things IQ tests measure is how good you are at IQ tests.

orestes

I fell off the jungle-gym and when I woke up I was here.

donvito99

I have 6 IQs.

Latchy

I queue up like most people ...no problem .

The Backwards Man

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The only things IQ tests measure is how good you are at IQ tests.

Yeah Carol Vorderman might be head honcho in Mensa but I like to see her try to calf twins from a first time heifer with no jack at 3am on a winters night.

FloatingVoter

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah Carol Vorderman might be head honcho in Mensa but I like to see her try to calf twins from a first time heifer with no jack at 3am on a winters night.

Carol has a problem making it down the stairs without breaking her nose - nuff said about IQ heads.

Chuck Stone

IQ scores only prove how good you are at doing IQ tests; the fact you can train yourself to be good at them makes a mockery of their effectiveness at proving anything other than that.

Geta brane morans.

opinion guy

Armelodie wrote: »

So from what I gather from the news report this company has infiltrated schools and claimed to have improved kids IQ by doing what? You guessed it...making kids practice how to do IQ tests on computers...

Does anyone think this is sus?

What news report ?

My name is URL

There's some lad on Newstalk talking about this now. Sounds like a bit of a chancer, imo

Cody Pomeray

Heard this guy getting an extremely easy interview on Morning Ireland this morning.

Of course if you train kids for IQ tests, you should anticipate many of them to perform better.

What he needs to establish is long term improvement:

I was disappointed that he was not asked how he could be sure that many of these kids were not merely allowed to 'speed up' their aptitude in the course of the preparation - an aptitude which may have come to them naturally over time anyway?

ScumLord

Chuck Stone wrote: »

IQ scores only prove how good you are at doing IQ tests; the fact you can train yourself to be good at them makes a mockery of their effectiveness at proving anything other than that.

The problem with humans is if you let us do anything for long enough we'll get good at it.

orestes

ScumLord wrote: »

The problem with humans is if you let us do anything for long enough we'll get good at it.

*sets timer*

Fromthetrees

Well your brain is a muscle so you most definitely can improve it, like your arms and legs and your brain you can help train and improve them because your brain is a muscle that can be improved and trained like other muscles such as your tongue and hands and brain.

Wacker The Attacker

I have an iq of 136.

That should tell you all you need to know about IQ tests

Baneblade

ScumLord wrote: »

The problem with humans is if you let us do anything for long enough we'll get good at it.

some of the nitwits working with me missed that memo

Grayson

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I have an iq of 136.

That should tell you all you need to know about IQ tests

Your name is Eddington?

Eoin

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Heard this guy getting an extremely easy interview on Morning Ireland this morning.

Of course if you train kids for IQ tests, you should anticipate many of them to perform better.

What he needs to establish is long term improvement:

I thought he came across quite well on Newstalk this evening; he was adamant that this their program is not practising for IQ tests.

There seems to be lots of info and links to 3rd party papers on their website, but I reckon I wouldn't have much of a clue about what most of it means

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I was disappointed that he was not asked how he could be sure that many of these kids were not merely allowed to 'speed up' their aptitude in the course of the preparation - an aptitude which may have come to them naturally over time anyway?

I think there's way too emphasis on getting kids to memorise information and regurgitate it on to an answer sheet, rather than logical thinking - so maybe it may not have come to them over time.

belcampprisoner

i invented the IQ

Scruffles

people who obsess over raising their or their kids IQ number care more about image and how it makes them look in society rather than what the tiny improvement it can get,any improvement makes no difference to actual learning ability/performance/information processing.

lower IQ is used to exclude/abuse people or use as the base for mocking others negatively, most people wave their online aquired IQ scores around like some sort of achievment without understanding what high or low IQ affects a person,or know of the various forms of inteligence.

am twenty nine and have intelectual disability [labeled 'learning disability' here],am of the so called low functioning bracket as a result and have lived in residential care for a decade,despite us always having being mocked and treated as burdens,used as 'funny' examples by people to compare their mates to when they do something stupid,well thanks to hefty support from staff and social services LD team am owner of a social network and integrated forum for people with/involved in intelectual disability;open less than two weeks and not advertised beyond one closed profesional id site yet have got twenty four members rising,have got one big council and two autism charities asking to join forces with the site,plus one offer of funding from a grant set up out of a persons will/legacy[?] which will enable us to buy a package from the company the site is with and also special software that turns every word into a symbol version when the mouse hovers over it-this makes it easier for us to grasp the meaning of language and also helps those who cannot read at all to access the site,woud ask... who is the stupid one here?

most of us with id are getting off our arses;doing things with our lives and contributing to society in many different ways;even though the majority of us cant access paid employment through varying reasons,what are all the able bodied layabouts doing to contribute-ie the ones who dont mind calling us retarded,a waste on government resources and a burden to society?

Turtwig

Thought I'd leave this here.

Valmont wrote: »

OK. I'm surprised the regulars here have such a, well, wrong idea of what an IQ test actually is and what it actually does.

First and foremost, it is designed to objectively identify children with intellectual disability so that a special needs education program may be tailored to suit their specific level of disability. I've worked in the special needs realm in this country and IQ tests are an indispensable tool. Clinical psychologists in the HSE also put these tests to good use.

EDIT: Off topic I know, but this just has to be said as it seems that almost everyone here doesn't know what an IQ test is.

C.K Dexter Haven

EQ is yesterday's IQ. In fact, it was 2 weeks ago now.

I know things and stuff so I do.

hfallada

IQ tests arent done in Irish schools and arent needed for college so its kinda pointless

T-K-O

The OP is wrong. They say you cannot raise your IQ. They also say you are born with a certain IQ and that's that.

The guys behind this product disagree with that way of thinking. The training according to the official press release has nothing to do with the traditional IQ test. If anything these guys say that IQ tests are BS and they're right.

This is not training for the IQ test. This looks very interesting I definitely check it out.

StewartGriffin

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah Carol Vorderman might be head honcho in Mensa but I like to see her try to calf twins from a first time heifer with no jack at 3am on a winters night.

actually, I WOULD like to see her do that. (In skintight blue jeans and black rubber wellingtons)

T-K-O

Maximising your potential has nothing to do with getting ahead