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is it ok to leech wifi from your neighbour?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    qwertypop wrote: »
    Most regular joes wouldn't know how to access info on your computer or see what your doing. I'm pretty good at computers and I wouldn't know how to

    I took a computer security class and learned just enough to be dangerous to myself. I keep wanting to go to a library or restaurant with public wi-fi and do something like an ARP poisoning and sniff everyone's traffic - but I know it's "wrong".

    So - instead, I setup my wireless to be unsecured. I really, really want a neighbor to start using it so I can monitor what they do and mess with them. I wouldn't do anything 'evil' - I'm not going to try and steal their credit cards (and in fairness, if they use SSL like you'd expect from a bank website, they'll get a warning saying the certificate doesn't match - but lots of peopel will just click 'Okay' anyway)....but I had some really amusing scripts that would mess with their Google searches and randomly replace 5% of the images with a picture of a cake with a pancake on it's head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    UCDVet, just set up a hotspot at a train station with:
    In another test, a fake Wi-Fi hotspot invited people to "pay" for internet access with their credit card – but required them to click a box to accept terms and conditions which clearly stated "you agree we can do anything we like with your credit card details and personal logins".

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/25/wifi-security-flaw-smartphones-risk

    Ear tingling article from 2011, The Guardian. How could you resist those terms.. click click click. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    srsly78 wrote: »
    How do you know a workplace has a strong password policy? Because of all the sticky notes on the monitors.


    Yeah idiots :pac:

    Mine is safely tattooed on my forehead. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Amalgam wrote: »
    UCDVet, just set up a hotspot at a train station with:



    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/25/wifi-security-flaw-smartphones-risk

    Ear tingling article from 2011, The Guardian. How could you resist those terms.. click click click. :pac:

    I've often wondered just how much information I could retrieve by offering 'free' wireless. Sadly I've never been anywhere populated enough to try it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Anyone know anything about NetBIOS ?

    Serious question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,486 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Sure, it's okay, but could you please upgrade your service? Thanks, your cheap neighbour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    of course it's OK, if my neighbours apple tree overgrows my fence, I'll eat his apples...same thing with Broadband...he's invaded my house :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭degausserxo


    My neighbour's wifi password was 'password'. They deserved to have it stolen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    sugarman wrote: »
    Anyone that uses week WEP or WPA with stock UPC/Eircom etc passwords and a broadcasts their SSID is leaving it open for everyone. So why not.

    I use WEP for my DS, it won't connect through anything else.

    The reason why you shouldn't, is it IS stealing, and can easily run up their bills.

    However I keep a close eye to the number of users on my wi-fi. And the password gets changed frequently, to keep others off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    TheUsual wrote: »
    Anyone know anything about NetBIOS ?

    Serious question.

    It's quite an old protocol but is still used for network device name resolution and announcement of shared folders/printers.
    I use WEP for my DS, it won't connect through anything else.

    The reason why you shouldn't, is it IS stealing, and can easily run up their bills.

    However I keep a close eye to the number of users on my wi-fi. And the password gets changed frequently, to keep others off.

    I'd probably stick that on a separate network (the easiest way would be to get a cable router), disable DHCP on the router and change the subnet to something random (eg. 172.20.30.x) to make it more difficult for some randomer to connect. At the very least I'd put on MAC authentication for the extra little bit of difficulty it would provide to a potential hacker.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I used to felt guilty about it because of the questionable things I did online.


    But then he got arrested last week for the same sort of stuff, so I shouldn't have worried.























    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    It's quite an old protocol but is still used for network device name resolution and announcement of shared folders/printers.



    I'd probably stick that on a separate network (the easiest way would be to get a cable router), disable DHCP on the router and change the subnet to something random (eg. 172.20.30.x) to make it more difficult for some randomer to connect. At the very least I'd put on MAC authentication for the extra little bit of difficulty it would provide to a potential hacker.

    It's very awkward to do that with mobile broadband, easier just to keep an eye on the numbers logged in :)


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