April Jones: Mark Bridger On Trial

Thrill

Yesterday

30 potential jurors have been selected in the trial of Mark Bridger, the actual jury of 12 people will be chosen tomorrow

Today

The jury has been sworn in at the trial of Mark Bridger, case due to open later today

Prosecution

Prosecution: April's best friend saw April get into the defendant's Land Rover. Bridger accepts that he "probably killed her"

Pros: "case is Mark Bridger abducted April, murdered her and went to enormous lengths to try to cover up what he had done"

Pros: say Mark Bridger's actions were sexually motivated. He's played a "cruel game" in pretending not to know what he has done with her

Pros: Mark Bridger told police he ran over April, put her in his car and drove around Machynlleth with her either dead or dying

Pros: content of Mark Bridger's computer shows he was interested in child pornography and local girls

Pros: Mark Bridger searched for "naked young five year old girls" on Internet

Pros: Mark Bridger saved pictures of local girls on his computer, April was included in some of the photos

Pros: in addition Mark Bridger had images of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman and other dead children

Pros: we say his interest in pornography, young girls, rape, murder is all too relevant

Pros: explained the images as wanted to understand his own daughter's physical development

Pros: CSi shows Mark Bridger had carried out an extensive clean up at his home

Pros: traces of blood found in living room, bathroom and hallway, DNA matches April's

Pros: around the wood burner in Mark Bridger's lounge was a knife which was badly burnt

Pros: ashes from the fire were examined, small burnt fragments of bone were found

Pros: you will hear experienced pathologists evidence that the bone fragments are consistent with bone fragments from a human skull

Pros: say the bone fragments we from a juvenile human skull

Pros: Mark Bridger said he was too drunk to remember anything, but said he didn't take her to his home

Court breaking for lunch

SKY

Frecklefart90

He accepts that "he probably killed her"?? How drunk does someone have to be to not remember if they murdered a child or not.

YumDeiseMum

He probably reckons that if he says he cant remember, it mustn't have happened, or will go down the lines of it being someone else took her to his house and disposed of her.

Its so sad really that no-ones child can be safe anymore, he was well known to her family and even lived next door for a time.

Thrill

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22353735

April Jones 'blood found' at Mark Bridger's home



The blood of missing April Jones and bone fragments were found at the home of a man accused of her murder, a trial has heard.


Mark Bridger, 47, from Ceinws, Machynlleth, Powys, denies abducting and murdering April, and intending to pervert the course of justice.
Prosecutor Elwen Evans QC said blood found at his home matched her DNA.


The jury heard Mr Bridger undertook an "extensive clean-up operation" at his home which included the disposal of April's body and her clothes.


However, some evidence remained. Blood found in the living room, hallway and bathroom matched April's DNA.

It looks pretty damning.

YumDeiseMum

It surely does, it begs to question then why in the name of God he still thinks its ok to plead not guilty to all charges.

Or is this where the diminished responsibility thing comes into play?

dark crystal

It'll be very interesting to hear what the defence's case is, as there seems to be overwhelming physical evidence that he did murder her, or, at the very least assisted in her murder.

Catphish

I thought looking up naked pics of 5 year olds and local girls including April was sick enough, but dead girls including Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman too? That is beyond sick and twisted.

All of the search time, pain and anguish that caused her parents and it turns out she may have been burned in his fire all along? In a way I had wished that she may have been found in a forest, field, river whatever just so her parents could have had her little body to bury. But this bastard burned her so the sick shít he did to her would go undetected.

Lock the sick bastard up and throw away the key.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

YumDeiseMum wrote: »

It surely does, it begs to question then why in the name of God he still thinks its ok to plead not guilty to all charges.

Or is this where the diminished responsibility thing comes into play?

Denial, probably. Remember Ian Huntley's excuse?

hatrickpatrick

Jesus Christ :eek:

Didn't realize there was any sexual connection to this case at all. Actually, the theory I'd heard being bandied around was that he'd had some kind of bitter dispute with her parents and killed her as some kind of revenge on them.

This somehow makes it a lot more horrific.

Speak Now

Jaysus the prosecution seem to have plenty on him. Anyone remember the previous thread on this? Now we know why the cops were sure they had the right guy!

TheNap

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Jaysus the prosecution seem to have plenty on him. Anyone remember the previous thread on this? Now we know why the cops were sure they had the right guy!

Em yeah . It was blatantly obvious they had the right guy though . People on here seemed to enjoy playing the detective which was pretty weird . Cant get my head around that type of evil . Its a disgusting world we live in .

2Mad2BeMad

TheNap wrote: »

Em yeah . It was blatantly obvious they had the right guy though . People on here seemed to enjoy playing the detective which was pretty weird . Cant get my head around that type of evil . Its a disgusting world we live in .

maybe its a conspiracy :O

LiamMc

Trial by Opening Summation.

TheNap

LiamMc wrote: »

Trial by Opening Summation.

Oh my

Papillon!

Holy crap. Thats so messed up finding bone fragments in the fire Poor little tot. Sick freaks in this world, its scary

Thrill

Prosecution continues

Court restarts

Jury in trial of Mark Bridger being taken through maps of Machynlleth and showing the route to his address in the village of Ceinws

Jury also being shown aerial view of the Byrn - Y - Gog estate where April Jones lived

Jury being shown exterior pictures of Mark Bridger's home Mount Pleasant Cottage in Ceinws

Prosecution: Mark Bridger had some photos of April Jones with another older girl on his computer, he said the other girl was an up and coming model

Mark Bridger had claimed to have had a career in the armed forces including the SAS, pros: "this was a lie, a fantasy"

Pros: Mark Bridger had links with two women on the Byrn y Gog estate, he had 2 children with one and had been in a relationship with the other woman in the months before April Jones disappearance.

Pros: Mark Bridger was parked up close to the garages where April Jones was playing.

Pros: defendant does not dispute that it was his vehicle in which April was driven away from the estate

Pros: Mark Bridger said he ran April down, she lay pinned under his front tyre

Pros: April's friend said Mark Bridger was stood outside his car, April went to talk to him, then April got in herself, "by herself",

pros: April's friend said April was happy when she got in the car, "she was smiling"

The 999 call was made at 7.29pm, jury now being played the 999 call, it was made by her mum Coral Jones

Coral "my daughter's been kidnapped"

Friend takes the phone, "she's gone off in a car"
999 call, friend tell operator "it was a big grey car with a man driving"
You can hear people sounding frantic someone says "someones's kidnapped April"

No-one is talking to the operator, you can hear someone sobbing in the background during the 999 call

The first officer to get to the scene spoke to April Jones friend, was told she saw April get in the car, "I thought she'd come back"

Pros: defendant left Bryn y Gog by the "back road"' the "opposite way to the route to the local hospital"
Mark Bridger drove away from Machynlleth across the Dovey Bridge towards his home

Pros: In spite of all the searching April hasn't been found, her clothes haven't been found

Pros: the clothes Mark Bridger was wearing when April disappeared have not been found

Pros: this is a case we say which clearly indicates a sexual motive

Darren Little from SKY News, you can follow him here...

https://twitter.com/DarrenLittleSky

LiamMc

Thrill wrote: »

Prosecution continues

Darren Little from SKY News, you can follow him here...

Any pics?

Thrill

LiamMc wrote: »

Any pics?

Pics?

jury about to be shown the images found on Mark Bridger's laptop, told some of the material is "very unpleasant"

jury shown where the laptop was stored in Mark Bridger's front room

Now taken to a folder on desktop screen "pictures shortcut" and a file called "abey"

jurors shown folder with most of the phonographic images, first folder is called "clothes"' Caroline Dickinson is one picture

Also in the "clothes" file is a picture of Holly Wells, also Jessica Lunsford a murder victim from USA

Mark Bridger googled "naked 5 year old girls"

jury sent home for the night

Pinklady11

I feel sick after reading all the reports today and no doubt it'll get worse as more details are revealed. Poor little girl, can't imagine what she must have suffered. Must be so hard for her family to now have to sit through this trial. He has no mercy for this family.

Sitting in jail is too good for monsters like him. :mad: It's hearing stories like these when I become a fan of corporal punishment.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Thrill wrote: »

Pics?

I think the one where the "jury shown where the laptop was stored in Mark Bridger's front room" would be most telling.

RossFixxxed

It all paints a very different picture doesn't it? Wow it's just horrible. As weird as this sounds I was hoping, for the poor girl's sake, that it was a sudden accident and a quick painless death. The poor little thing.

IF this is true (IF), then there is no justice strong enough for a monster who would do all that.

LiamMc

Pinklady11 wrote: »

I feel sick after reading all the reports today and no doubt it'll get worse as more details are revealed. Poor little girl, can't imagine what she must have suffered. Must be so hard for her family to now have to sit through this trial. He has no mercy for this family.

Sitting in jail is too good for monsters like him. :mad: It's hearing stories like these when I become a fan of corporal punishment.

I sympathise with you, but as you're aware Darren Little and his ilk will probably only get away with a slap on the wrists.

xzanti

RossFixxxed wrote: »

IF this is true (IF), then there is no justice strong enough for a monster who would do all that.

Put him in a room with the parents of all the recently murdered children and give them Carte Blanche!

Merkin

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Jesus Christ :eek:

Didn't realize there was any sexual connection to this case at all. Actually, the theory I'd heard being bandied around was that he'd had some kind of bitter dispute with her parents and killed her as some kind of revenge on them.

This somehow makes it a lot more horrific.

I don't know how you can be so surprised? The majority of child murder cases (when perpetrated by an adult) invariably have a sexual motive. It doesn't surprise me at all tbh.

This makes for horrific reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22353735

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

LiamMc wrote: »

I sympathise with you, but as you're aware Darren Little and his ilk will probably only get away with a slap on the wrists.

The journalist?

Thrill

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The journalist?

LiamMc is either trying to be funny or making some kind of point.

Darren Little reported what happened in the court without making any opinions on the matter, so I cant see how he could come in for any criticism.


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Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Thrill wrote: »

Trying to be funny or making some kind of point.

Darren Little reported what happened in the court without making any opinions on the matter, so I cant see how he could come in for any criticism.

That's my point. Liam said that Little "and his ilk would get away with a slam on the wrists".

As you said, he's reporting. My question for Liam was pretty much the same as yours, but I wasn't sure I wasn't missing something.

LiamMc

Thrill wrote: »

LiamMc is either trying to be funny or making some kind of point.

Darren Little reported what happened in the court without making any opinions on the matter, so I cant see how he could come in for any criticism.


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Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That's my point. Liam said that Little "and his ilk would get away with a slam on the wrists".

As you said, he's reporting. My question for Liam was pretty much the same as yours, but I wasn't sure I wasn't missing something.

Primarily I will wait for evidence. Not the filtered information from Darren Little. Nor the Opening Summation of one side of the case.
"Pros:

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" isn't stuff I rely on to make my mind up about an event.
The "slap on the wrists" is a reference to Pinklady's "corporal punishment" reference that I quoted.

@Consuela Bannanahammock You never asked me any clear question. I would prefer if you didn't follow me around boards.ie. You have quoted me a few times on this thread and also quoted me on other threads on boards.ie today aswell.
I consider it stalking.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

LiamMc wrote: »

Primarily I will wait for evidence. Not the filtered information from Darren Little. Nor the Opening Summation of one side of the case.
"Pros:

---

" isn't stuff I rely on to make my mind up about an event.
The "slap on the wrists" is a reference to Pinklady's "corporal punishment" reference that I quoted.

@Consuela Bannanahammock You never asked me any clear question. I would prefer if you didn't follow me around boards.ie. You have quoted me a few times on this thread and also quoted me on other threads on boards.ie today aswell.
I consider it stalking.

You're on an internet forum. It happens. And I think i've replied to two of your posts now and only now realise that you're same person from a different thread.

Anyway. Still not clear on this one (and apologies for the lack thereof on my part) but is this guy reporting on stuff that actually happens in the trial, or specualting as to what happens?

Thrill

LiamMc wrote: »

Primarily I will wait for evidence. Not the filtered information from Darren Little. Nor the Opening Summation of one side of the case.
"Pros:

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" isn't stuff I rely on to make my mind up about an event.
The "slap on the wrists" is a reference to Pinklady's "corporal punishment" reference that I quoted.

Opening summations are part of the trial process. Darren Little was only reporting the details of the prosecutions opening.

LiamMc

Thrill wrote: »

Opening summations are part of the trial process. Darren Little was only reporting the details of the prosecutions opening.

Opening summation is not part of evidence. That is still to be presented. Darren Little is not providing every part of the Opening Summation. Just his own edited account.

Pinklady11

LiamMc wrote: »

Primarily I will wait for evidence. Not the filtered information from Darren Little. Nor the Opening Summation of one side of the case.
"Pros:

---

" isn't stuff I rely on to make my mind up about an event.
The "slap on the wrists" is a reference to Pinklady's "corporal punishment" reference that I quoted.

Well the "evidence" mentioned by the prosecution today includes DNA from April found in the defendants home along with pieces of skull from a juvenile. Also the fact that April was last seen getting into his car and he admits that, so yes I do believe he is guilty before I hear his side of the story. I could be jumping to conclusions but I'll take my chances.

Also any human that takes an innocent child and abuses and murders them is a monster and should be tortured every day for the rest of their sick twisted lives.

lomb

I actually met Mark Bridger once and treated him as a patient , if the evidence is correct then:mad:

One thing that is strange, is why did the police carry on the search that cost millions if they knew she was a goner and her body wouldnt be found? Was it for political reasons or maybe the evidence isn't as strong as they'd have us believe. Either way something doesnt add up.

tayto lover

It is sad and shocking that there are people like Bridger this in our midst.
There are paedophiles everywhere.
Bridger, if found guilty, should not see daylight again and should be kept away from any form of human life except someone who has to bring him his food.

tayto lover

lomb wrote: »

I actually met Mark Bridger once and treated him as a patient , if the evidence is correct then:mad:

One thing that is strange, is why did the police carry on the search that cost millions if they knew she was a goner and her body wouldnt be found? Was it for political reasons or maybe the evidence isn't as strong as they'd have us believe. Either way something doesnt add up.

Could be a Fred West kind of thing.
Maybe making sure there were no more bodies of unfortunate children hidden in the locality.

lomb

tayto lover wrote: »

Could be a Fred West kind of thing.
Maybe making sure there were no more bodies of unfortunate children hidden in the locality.

Nah I lived there in Machynlleth for years. Everyone knows everyone and what they are doing. Its a very safe spot where nothing ever happens in that regard. There would have been no local hidden children fortunately. Unless he kidnapped them from somewhere else I suppose, but it is an isolated spot so would be a long drive back from the Midlands.

Thrill

LiamMc wrote: »

Opening summation is not part of evidence. That is still to be presented. Darren Little is not providing every part of the Opening Summation. Just his own edited account.

No-one said it was evidence.

As for an edited account, unless you're at the courthouse every day, are able to somehow view the case on t.v. or you obtain a transcript of the case, all you're going to get is someones edited account, even when evidence is presented.

You're not likely to get a word for word report anywhere.

.jacksparrow.

Holy god I feel sick after reading all this, what the hell is wrong with some people. Poor girl never even had a chance, what a twisted prick.

LiamMc

Thrill wrote: »

No-one said it was evidence.

As for an edited account, unless you're at the courthouse every day, are able to somehow view the case on t.v. or you obtain a transcript of the case, all you're going to get is someones edited account, even when evidence is presented.

You're not likely to get a word for word report anywhere.

I would invite you to re-read the thread.
And if no evidence is presented yet, what exactly was all the condemnation for?

shoos

I remember when he was first arrested there was a brief interview on Sky News with his son. They apparently never really had a relationship and his son was only around 16 or 17 year old but you just felt so sorry for him. The torment he'll likely receive from this, it's just so unfair.

tayto lover

lomb wrote: »

Nah I lived there in Machynlleth for years. Everyone knows everyone and what they are doing. Its a very safe spot where nothing ever happens in that regard. There would have been no local hidden children fortunately. Unless he kidnapped them from somewhere else I suppose, but it is an isolated spot so would be a long drive back from the Midlands.

Fred West's victims were mainly hitch-hikers. One was even foreign.
There is nowhere safe. Those guys weasel their way into positions of trust too.

Thrill

LiamMc wrote: »

I would invite you to re-read the thread.
And if no evidence is presented yet, what exactly was all the condemnation for?

Peoples condemnation appears to be based on the events at the time, the new revelations in the opening statement and emotion.

No-one said the opening is evidence though. People thought he was guilty at the time and with a lot less information than presented today. Reading the new details will harden those beliefs.

lukesmom

Well I for one thought it was an accident and he wasn't involved. How wrong I was. I suppose I hoped that it wasn't as grim a death as the prosecution have told. What a sick world we live in. :eek:

Ruudi_Mentari

Should be a picture postcard house; but no - house of horrors.

token101

YumDeiseMum wrote: »

Its so sad really that no-ones child can be safe anymore, he was well known to her family and even lived next door for a time.

They can, you just need to put down the Daily Mail.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

tayto lover wrote: »

Fred West's victims were mainly hitch-hikers. One was even foreign.
There is nowhere safe. Those guys weasel their way into positions of trust too.

Might as well all go and kill ourselves, so.

tayto lover

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Might as well all go and kill ourselves, so.

No need to be that extreme. Just be careful and double check everything.
If your kids are visiting friends, asking to have sleep-overs etc then check out the family as much as possible beforehand.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

tayto lover wrote: »

No need to be that extreme. Just be careful and double check everything.
If your kids are visiting friends, asking to have sleep-overs etc then check out the family as much as possible beforehand.

I think that's more common sense, but by the way you were talking, it sounded like you should never let your kids out the door. Or yourself.

tayto lover

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think that's more common sense, but by the way you were talking, it sounded like you should never let your kids out the door. Or yourself.

Anger does that to ya

Merkin

tayto lover wrote: »

Anger does that to ya

Or reading the Daily Fail

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I'd have to go with tabloid influence as well. The world is nowhere near as scary or evil as it's made out to be, but if you beleive and accept everything you read or hear, as I said, you'll never step foot outside.

I know what you mean by anger, but sometiems you just have to stop yourself from reading and watchign stuff that does you no emotional good whatsoever.