Integrated Appliances - installation cost

nibtrix

I have a new kitchen being installed this week, but I bought the integrated appliances separately from the kitchen.

The kitchen designer has suggested that I come to an arrangement with the fitters to get them to install the appliances. Anyone have any opinions on how much I should offer them?

It's a fridgefreezer, dishwasher, single oven and hob (both electric, not gas). All of the plumbing and electrical prep work is done, so it should be a fairly simple installation.

I'm thinking around €100-120. Am I way off the mark?

ted1

Kitchen fitters are not sparks and can not legally wire in a hob or cooker.

Is there sockets, if so fridge freezer should be done by kitchen fitters as part of the job.

If there is a waste pipe and a hose connection point with a valve they should fit the dishwasher also as part of the job.

Who is doing the sink, extractor fan?

nibtrix

Hi, thanks for your comments.

There were sockets for the fridge and dishwasher (and all the necessary plumbing for the dishwasher) so the fitter installed them. It wasn't part of the job (in the quoted price) as we didn't buy the appliances from them.

He asked for €50 for fitting the fridgefreezer & dishwasher which was ok as it saved us getting someone in - they're easy enough jobs but I didn't fancy wrestling the big appliances into the relevant spaces.

The extractor was included with the kitchen and there was a socket for it so that was installed with the kitchen and included in the price.

We booked in a separate plumber for the sink, the plumbing was in a bit of a mess previously (random piping in all directions!) and we had chosen a "bowl and a half" sink instead of the single bowl that was there previously so altogether the plumber cost us €100. It took about 90 mins work and he did a good job so we were happy enough.

We had builders in doing some work and they had their electrician wire in the hob and oven (they'd already prepared the wiring so it was a quick job). They didn't charge us as they were there anyway.

wytch

ted1 wrote: »

Kitchen fitters are not sparks and can not legally wire in a hob or cooker.

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Hi, I don't believe this to be true, can you point at some legislation which says this, or can anybody point at it. I am not trying to be a smart ass but some vested interest might have the ordinary person believe stuff this like this in order to up the prices on certain services. I believe the Electrical Rules need to be followed ET101, however I don't know where it says the work must be carried out by an electrician.

coylemj

wytch wrote: »

Hi, I don't believe this to be true, can you point at some legislation which says this, or can anybody point at it. I am not trying to be a smart ass but some vested interest might have the ordinary person believe stuff this like this in order to up the prices on certain services. I believe the Electrical Rules need to be followed ET101, however I don't know where it says the work must be carried out by an electrician.

+1 what qualifications do you need to connect live, neutral and earth? I connected my original built-in oven and also connected up a new one a couple of years ago, certainly wouldn't see the need to pay a sparks to do it.

Wouldn't dream of getting involved with a gas appliance but wiring up an oven isn't much different from wiring a plug.

coylemj

coylemj wrote: »

+1 what qualifications do you need to connect live, neutral and earth? I connected my original built-in oven and also connected up a new one a couple of years ago, certainly wouldn't see the need to pay a sparks to do it.

Wouldn't dream of getting involved with a gas appliance but wiring up an oven isn't much different from wiring a plug.

I believe that it has more to do with insurance than anything else, you wire in a cooker and the house burns down due to incompetent wiring, the insurance company could refuse to pay out.

coylemj

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I believe that it has more to do with insurance than anything else, you wire in a cooker and the house burns down due to incompetent wiring, the insurance company could refuse to pay out.

That could equally apply to any electrical work done by the householder e.g. wiring a plug for a hoover or electric heater. The issue I was addressing was the claim that it is illegal for a person other than a qualified electrician to wire up a hob or cooker.

coylemj

coylemj wrote: »

That could equally apply to any electrical work done by the householder e.g. wiring a plug for a hoover or electric heater. The issue I was addressing was the claim that it is illegal for a person other than a qualified electrician to wire up a hob or cooker.

Not really,there is a big difference between wiring plugs and wiring fixed appliances.

coylemj

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Not really,there is a big difference between wiring plugs and wiring fixed appliances.

Well since the 1970s I've wired dozens of plugs and three cookers and there isn't much difference as far as I'm concerned.