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risteard7

I'm currently doing a healthcare assistant course. I have a drink driving conviction from 4 years ago. I'm worried when it comes to applying for a job and fill out the garda vetting they wont employ me?

what are the hse like with previous convictions? I was hoping they would see an assault or theft charge or whatever more serious than drink driving?

Kristopherus

risteard7 wrote: »

I'm currently doing a healthcare assistant course. I have a drink driving conviction from 4 years ago. I'm worried when it comes to applying for a job and fill out the garda vetting they wont employ me?

what are the hse like with previous convictions? I was hoping they would see an assault or theft charge or whatever more serious than drink driving?

Your chance of getting a job with HSE are practically nil, not because of your conviction, its just that they are shedding jobs and only the most urgent posts are being filled. With the financial straitjacket they currently have, I don't expect that situation to change soon. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

risteard7

Kristopherus wrote: »

Your chance of getting a job with HSE are practically nil, not because of your conviction, its just that they are shedding jobs and only the most urgent posts are being filled. With the financial straitjacket they currently have, I don't expect that situation to change soon. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Oh i don't expect them to recruit me now. i'm talking a few years down the line i know there's a recruitment freeze now. So you reckon the conviction wont matter?

Jack Lumber

risteard7 wrote: »

Oh i don't expect them to recruit me now. i'm talking a few years down the line i know there's a recruitment freeze now. So you reckon the conviction wont matter?

I think it will, you will be at a serious disadvantage to other interviewees without a conviction.

risteard7

Jack Lumber wrote: »

I think it will, you will be at a serious disadvantage to other interviewees without a conviction.

Even if it's a traffic offence? drink driving wont stop you getting a visa for another country. So a one off silly mistake i made when i was younger will stop me from working? if i had a conviction for assault or theft then i would completely understand.

Whats the point in me finishing the course then

sambuka41

risteard7 wrote: »

Even if it's a traffic offence? drink driving wont stop you getting a visa for another country. So a one off silly mistake i made when i was younger will stop me from working? if i had a conviction for assault or theft then i would completely understand.

It's not a silly mistake, or simply a traffic offence, you could have killed someone or killed yourself. A good start to moving on from past would be to acknowledge it and accept responsibility.

It won't rule out a job for certain, but if you came into me for a job and spoke of drink driving as minor, I would not hire you, because I would wonder how you could manage the responsibility of looking after someone else when you can't take responsibility for your own actions, or the implications that your actions could have on others; that is a vital part of the job you are training for.
If you walked in and said it was wrong to have done, you learned your lesson, not been in any kind of trouble since... anything along those lines then that would be different.

risteard7

sambuka41 wrote: »

It's not a silly mistake, or simply a traffic offence, you could have killed someone or killed yourself. A good start to moving on from past would be to acknowledge it and accept responsibility.

It won't rule out a job for certain, but if you came into me for a job and spoke of drink driving as minor, I would not hire you, because I would wonder how you could manage the responsibility of looking after someone else when you can't take responsibility for your own actions, or the implications that your actions could have on others; that is a vital part of the job you are training for.
If you walked in and said it was wrong to have done, you learned your lesson, not been in any kind of trouble since... anything along those lines then that would be different.

I didn't ask for a lecture thanks and to me theft and assault are a lot worse than drink driving. Drink driving will not make me violent with a patient or steal something from them. Of course i think drink driving is wrong and it's a huge regret of mine. I wasn't driving i slept in the car with the heater and engine running. The official conviction was drunk in charge because i wasn't caught driving allthough they prop go under the same bracket

sambuka41

risteard7 wrote: »

I didn't ask for a lecture thanks and to me theft and assault are a lot worse than drink driving. Drink driving will not make me violent with a patient or steal something from them. Of course i think drink driving is wrong and it's a huge regret of mine. I wasn't driving i slept in the car with the heater and engine running. The official conviction was drunk in charge because i wasn't caught driving allthough they prop go under the same bracket

You asked for advice, I am a manager hiring health care assistants and I gave you the advice that my organisation would go by.

Your conviction shows poor decision making in that instance (we all make poor decisions, yours resulted in a conviction) the manager interviewing you will want to know if you have capacity to make good/ safe decisions and judgements for the people in your care. A clear indication of whether you can do this is your past record, both with law and in previous roles of responsibility. It's all connected.

You can explain the circumstances to the employer that might help a bit.

Wishbone Ash

risteard7 wrote: »

Iwhat are the hse like with previous convictions? I was hoping they would see an assault or theft charge or whatever more serious than drink driving?

As a senior manager in the HSE, I can assure you that an assault conviction would be considered much a much more serious offence than a DUI conviction. A person with an assault conviction would have practically no chance unless of employment unless it was a very long time ago - e.g. 30 years and they have no further convictions. I'm not saying that a DUI wouldn't matter but just that it would be considered less serious than an assault conviction.

An honest, upfront,open attitude to any conviction is also more beneficial to your prospects than trying to avoid, cover over the matter.

100278328

I am in a similar predicament. I was convicted for drink driving last year and it ruined my life and was the biggest mistake I had ever made because It ruined my career prospects of joining the police. I had passed everything for Derbyshire police but my application had to be withdrawn and I can't reapply for another ten years. I'm currently doing a masters degree in criminal investigation which Is so specific to policing but a potential career is health and safety executive due to the relevance in investigation.

My conviction will become spent in October this year under the rehabilitation of offenders act. But I still accept that it happend and was wrong. Would this conviction prevent me from getting a job at HSE with my qualifications and my conviction spent? I completely understand with the police because it's like a double standard as I'll deal with a lot of roads policing that will challenge drink drivers and then I'm one of them. But just looking for some advice really in terms of HSE.

Thanks

olliesgirl55

risteard7 wrote: »

I didn't ask for a lecture thanks and to me theft and assault are a lot worse than drink driving. Drink driving will not make me violent with a patient or steal something from them. Of course i think drink driving is wrong and it's a huge regret of mine. I wasn't driving i slept in the car with the heater and engine running. The official conviction was drunk in charge because i wasn't caught driving allthough they prop go under the same bracket

Drink driving is a criminal offence so having that conviction on your record could hurt your chances in getting some jobs. Also it could disqualify you for visas to certain countries (US is one for sure).

I suggest you give the HSE a call and ask them. Always better to get the answer from the source.:)

Oak House, Millennium Park, Naas, Co. Kildare

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TCM

ilghan wrote:

what if the trial is still ongoing? i'm not convicted yet and it will take 10 years the trial to be finished. Could the HSE hire me? Doesn't apply to me the presumption of innocence?

Your in court for 10 years - you'll hardly be available to work.