.22 hornet ammo

fiestaman

A friend got a hornet today (krico)and he rang me to help him zero it. He had a box of hornady bullets ,so we set up at 100yrds and fired a few shots. We couldnt get it to group tight. Are they not very accurate or is it like a .22lr where you need to try different types of ammo. He only has a hawke scope worth 120euro on it, would the recoil be to much for a scope like that. I shot 5 22lr bullets at 75yrds and they were with in 1.5" then shot 3 with hornet and they were 2-2.5" group. If this is as accurate as they are id be throwing it in the skip , price of the bullets. :-(

rowa

There is zero recoil on a hornet, and it should be very accurate , especially out of a quality german rifle. what grain were the hornady rounds ? I used to use cheap s&b rounds and they were great.

OUTDOOR MAN

hi, i have the Czechoslovakian bruno twin trigger [ set trigger ] with a simmons aetec 3.8 12x44 scope, wildcat predator 8 moderator,bullets are Remington 45 grain psp [soft point] r22hn1 i am dead bull at 100yrds, thursday night took a fox at 189 yards,no problem,this set up i have does the job for me,and i have had the bruno for a long while,a half descent scope does make a difference,but it what your pocket says mainly,hope this helps,

OUTDOOR MAN

i found the s & b a dirty round what did you think of them,?

meathstevie

fiestaman wrote: »

A friend got a hornet today (krico)and he rang me to help him zero it. He had a box of hornady bullets ,so we set up at 100yrds and fired a few shots. We couldnt get it to group tight. Are they not very accurate or is it like a .22lr where you need to try different types of ammo. He only has a hawke scope worth 120euro on it, would the recoil be to much for a scope like that. I shot 5 22lr bullets at 75yrds and they were with in 1.5" then shot 3 with hornet and they were 2-2.5" group. If this is as accurate as they are id be throwing it in the skip , price of the bullets. :-(

If I was your friend I'd check the scope mounts. Although recoil on a .22 hornet is not a big factor it's still there and the difference between decent scope mounts and not so decent ones makes a vast difference. Were the shots with the .22lr done with the same scope ? If they were you can probably rule out a defective scope.

Also, try putting the rifle in a clamp of some sort so it doesn't shift and fire three rounds at a target at 20 to 25 meters and see how it groups. If that's all over the place some creative thinking will have to be done.

averagefox

nothing wrong with my krico/ hawke combo... using 45g winchester hollow points @120 yards

rowa

OUTDOOR MAN wrote: »

i found the s & b a dirty round what did you think of them,?

yeah they are dirty alright , but ok and not too dear either.

fiestaman

Each gun has its own scope. I dont know what grain the bullet was. Hes going to get different type bullet and try that, if that fails well look at scope and mounts

zeissman

fiestaman wrote: »

A friend got a hornet today (krico)and he rang me to help him zero it. He had a box of hornady bullets ,so we set up at 100yrds and fired a few shots. We couldnt get it to group tight. Are they not very accurate or is it like a .22lr where you need to try different types of ammo. He only has a hawke scope worth 120euro on it, would the recoil be to much for a scope like that. I shot 5 22lr bullets at 75yrds and they were with in 1.5" then shot 3 with hornet and they were 2-2.5" group. If this is as accurate as they are id be throwing it in the skip , price of the bullets. :-(

I assume this is 2nd hand rifle he bought so he should give the barrel a good clean and check that the action screws and mount screws are not loose before shooting again.
Try a few different brands of ammo but give the barrel a quick clean when changing from one brand to another. I always found RWS hornet ammo very accurate.

meathstevie

Good stuff, from experience with my old Anschutz if it likes the Winchester hollow points it'll probably like the Federal equivalent as well.

I'd still try the short distance group from a clamp or vice ( dont clamp the barrel ) and if that's ok the gun is fine and you're looking at scope and mounts.

philbk

Is the rifle new or second hand? If new, was the barrel thoroughly degreased and cleaned before first use? If so the barrell is unlikely to be the problem.
If second hand, has the barrell been shot out? You need to get a good bore solvent and a bronze brush and thoroughly clean barrell to ensure any build up of debris on the rifling is removed. Now secure the rifle in a vice / workmate and fire 3 shots at 25 yards. They should be almost touching - if they are the barrell is not the problem. If they do not group then you have a barrell problem. Assuming the barrell isn't the problem the next obvious cause of poor grouping is a loose reticule in the scope or loose mounts. Try checking out the scope on a different rifle and ensure all screws are tight. Is the barrell free floating? Can you slide a piece of paper between the stock and barrell without the paper catching? Other factors will also contribute to poor grouping. Is there a lot of trigger creep? How is your shooting? If you are only used to firing rim fires the bigger bang etc of the hornet may be causing you to flinch / pull shots! Hope this helps

fiestaman

Il try all the above, thanks lads

OUTDOOR MAN

OUTDOOR MAN wrote: »

hi, i have the Czechoslovakian bruno twin trigger [ set trigger ] with a simmons aetec 3.8 12x44 scope, wildcat predator 8 moderator,bullets are Remington 45 grain psp [soft point] r22hn1 i am dead bull at 100yrds, thursday night took a fox at 189 yards,no problem,this set up i have does the job for me,and i have had the bruno for a long while,a half descent scope does make a difference,but it what your pocket says mainly,hope this helps,

this one didnt make it.

fiestaman

Well i got sorted, have a friggin vice that i was using to rest the gun and sure i was resting the barrell on the front support instead of the rifle forend. Could do 1" group at 80yrds thisevening. All happy now thanks.