Bad parking meets bad parenting..

condra

Bank Of Ireland, Glasnevin today..

Car parked on double yellow line on corner, impinging on disabled parking space, 2 kids of around 4/5 year old, apparently locked in the car, alarm going off. Nobody to be seen for the ten minutes I was there.



I didn't leave the scene until a local resident assured me she would keep an eye on the kids. I'm guessing the owner was in the bank.
There were a number of spaces twenty yards down the road (Fairfield Road)

Lucena

condra wrote: »

Bank Of Ireland, Glasnevin today..

Car parked on double yellow line on corner, impinging on disabled parking space, 2 kids of around 4/5 year old, apparently locked in the car, alarm going off. Nobody to be seen for the ten minutes I was there.

I didn't leave the scene until a local resident assured me she would keep an eye on the kids. I'm guessing the owner was in the bank.

For those who were wondering, under the painted over bit are the letters U, N and T.

Anan1

Out of interest, why block out the reg? And why not call the Gardaí?

OU812

Should have called the guards, told them there were two kid in distress & you were forcing an entry

donegal.

ah sure i was only running in for a second.

condra

Anan1 wrote: »

Out of interest, why block out the reg? And why not call the Gardaí?

Not sure of the legality of it, regarding the registration.

I'm quite sure the local resident was poised to give the owner a good telling off, and would definitely call the Gardai should the owner not turn up soon. In hindsight though, I should have called the Gardai immediatly.

Anan1

condra wrote: »

Not sure of the legality of it, regarding the registration.

The car was parked in a public place, the owner could have no reasonable expectation of privacy.

condra wrote: »

I'm quite sure the local resident was poised to give the owner a good telling off, and would definitely call the Gardai should the owner not turn up soon. In hindsight though, I should have called the Gardai immediatly.

I suppose it's easy for me to sit here coming up with ideas afterwards.:)

MugMugs

Are we losing the run of ourselves here? Am I alone in being left in the car as a child?

coylemj

In the US they don't tolerate leaving kids in a car like that, someone would have called the cops immediately and it would have had nothing to do with the legality or otherwise of how the car was parked. It seems to be condoned here and in the UK, possibly based on our more benign climate i.e. there's very little danger of heatstroke or dehydration.

thegreatiam

MugMugs wrote: »

Are we losing the run of ourselves here? Am I alone in being left in the car as a child?

yes and no. I was left alone in the car as a kid. But not in a dangerous/illegal place and not with an alarm going off

Probably not when i was 4/5 tho. older maybe 9/10

MugMugs

thegreatiam wrote: »

yes and no. I was left alone in the car as a kid. But not in a dangerous/illegal place and not with an alarm going off

Well, we never really had a car alarm when I was that age and it generally wasn't set if there was somebody in the car. I can't really see how that (apart from the corner and not the extent of the corner) is dangerous driving. More wreckless frankly. But maybe my inability to see the full picture is tainting my view.

Whilst I probably wouldn't leave kids in a car, I am kind of not seeing the issue with it either.

thegreatiam

MugMugs wrote: »

Well, we never really had a car alarm when I was that age and it generally wasn't set if there was somebody in the car. I can't really see how that (apart from the corner and not the extent of the corner) is dangerous driving. More wreckless frankly. But maybe my inability to see the full picture is tainting my view.

Whilst I probably wouldn't leave kids in a car, I am kind of not seeing the issue with it either.

I find myself more bothered by the careless parking than the kids being in the car.

That being said cant be right to leave them unattended in a car like that. Even on a mildly warm day it would get uncomfortable fast.

Parking on a corner like that is going to be risky regardless, to the parked car, the cars coming around the corner and any poor soul in the path of the moving vehicle that swerves last minute to avoid hitting the parked car. that's why they put the yellows there in the first place.

randy hickey

Leaving your kids in the car unsupervised like this is a giant no-no.

There have been enough cases over the years where this has gone horribly wrong.
One that springs to mind is the guy in Finglas who left the kids in the car to run back into the house to get something and the car caught fire - aftermarket car alarm I think.Anyway it didn't end well.

pwurple

randy hickey wrote: »

Leaving your kids in the car unsupervised like this is a giant no-no.

There have been enough cases over the years where this has gone horribly wrong.
One that springs to mind is the guy in Finglas who left the kids in the car to run back into the house to get something and the car caught fire - aftermarket car alarm I think.Anyway it didn't end well.

Kids overheat fairly fast in cars in the sunshine too... stats of children killed per year (32 last year in the US) from being left in cars when it's too hot.
http://www.ggweather.com/heat/

Associated press report on some cases
http://www.ggweather.com/heat/ap_sentencing.htm

There are also stories of cars with kids in them being left unlocked at petrol stations, and the car being stolen (including kids in the back).

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-hunt-thieves-who-stole-car-with-sleeping-baby-inside-28825090.html

http://www.thejournal.ie/car-with-children-inside-stolen-in-limerick-71008-Jan2011/

Viper_JB

In my experience while sitting in the car when the alarm goes off it can be ear splittingly loud, could damage the kids ears if they were in there long enough, horrible parking though, anyone capable of leaving their car in a spot like that should have their car taken off them and sold - hit them where it hurts right in the pocket.

nicol

Is this an attempt the restart the Obnoxious Parking thread??

Bring it on, it's one feature of the Motors forum I really miss!!

galwaytt

MugMugs wrote: »

Are we losing the run of ourselves here? Am I alone in being left in the car as a child?

...they came back for you though, didn't they.............. ?










or, for the car at least............

H3llR4iser

I clearly remember being left alone in the car as a kid, often with my little brother - and we're talking southern Italy, not Ireland's temperate climate.

Of course it was a matter of minutes, but I also clearly remember enjoying it - avoiding having to go in a boring store/bank with my parents and being "invested" in the "responsibility" of watching over my younger brother

I don't think I know anybody that wasn't left in the car at least every now and then...but also, it was 1987-1988, a time when a parent slapping a misbehaving kid in a restaurant would be greeted by a round of applause rather than 157 calls to the Police for "child abuse"; And a more "falsely innocent" time at a large, with no 24-hours news channels or Twitter constantly bombarding us with all the horrible stuff happening everywhere.

The parking is of course horrendous, and leaving the car with the alarm engaged is mindbogglingly stupid - of course the alarm is gonna go constantly off, with the kids inside.

Anjobe

Well, nowadays with cars with electric windows, remote central locking, deadlocks etc kids locked in the car are effectively trapped - no way out in case of emergency. This perhaps wasn't the case in the past.

Max Power1

nicol wrote: »

Is this an attempt the restart the Obnoxious Parking thread??

Bring it on, it's one feature of the Motors forum I really miss!!

+1

I've been parking on triple yellows in a vague attempt to attract some criticism but its just not the same :P

Nothing beats parking in P&C parking spots, except the criticism I'd get on here!

pwurple

That parking was the height of stupid... I wonder did they think the kids were 'guarding' the car in some way, so they wouldn't get a ticket. Maybe they had been instructed to drive off if a clamper appeared.

alexmcred

Ha I locked the wife and kid in the car one night by accident when I rang into the shop locked the car without thinking.

Then I hear a car alarm going off and thinking to myself what idiots alarm is going off cue me exiting the shop realising I was the idoit but then laughing at the two of them in the car and the lights flashing was slightly sorry after the ear bashing though

BMJD

condra wrote: »

2 kids of around 4/5 year old, apparently locked in the car, alarm going off.

they were probably trying to steal it, you should have beaten them severely

MugMugs

MugMugs wrote: »

Are we losing the run of ourselves here? Am I alone in being left in the car as a child?

I remember an 18 month old being left in a car "for a few minutes" while Mum was going for a pint of milk. The car caught fire, possibly from child playing with matches. It lived for a few days. NEVER, EVER take such a chance. Children are too precious.

MugMugs

Deleted User wrote: »

I remember an 18 month old being left in a car "for a few minutes" while Mum was going for a pint of milk. The car caught fire, possibly from child playing with matches. It lived for a few days. NEVER, EVER take such a chance. Children are too precious.

I don't need to be preached at with tragic stories regarding fatalities. I am only far to aware of the risks associated with motor vehicles.

My point (whilst understanding that there's better alternatives open to this parent) was that I feel we are becoming a bit too PC.

The whole, eating gum off the ground, drinking out of hose pipes malarkey.

daheff

Deleted User wrote: »

I remember an 18 month old being left in a car "for a few minutes" while Mum was going for a pint of milk. The car caught fire, possibly from child playing with matches. It lived for a few days. NEVER, EVER take such a chance. Children are too precious.

Surely this is more that the problem is that matches were given to the child...coulda happened at home if the child got the matches too.


I have on occasion left the kids in the car (strapped in their seats with car doors locked) after filling up with petrol while I went in to pay. Its not a regular thing...but sometimes its easiest all round (child just gone asleep would be woken up to get out etc).

johnnydeep

daheff wrote: »

Surely this is more that the problem is that matches were given to the child...coulda happened at home if the child got the matches too.


I have on occasion left the kids in the car (strapped in their seats with car doors locked) after filling up with petrol while I went in to pay. Its not a regular thing...but sometimes its easiest all round (child just gone asleep would be woken up to get out etc).

the child must have been in the car with matches and a gallon of petrol firelighters and a few cigarette lighters for that terrible ACCIDENT

pwurple

You can normally see your car from the petrol station cashier desk. This loon on the street was nowhere to be found. Couldn't see them or hear them since the alarm was apparantly blaring. I don't know the area, but is it double yellow for any obvious reason? Is it causing a blockage, is it a dangerous place to stop?

People are nicer to their dogs than their children sometimes.

johnnydeep

was left in car parked along the street in newry when I was 5 or so. parking warden (some oul bat) came along and start going mad about no ticket or something and demanded I get my mother. being a cheeky wee ****er I wouldn't move when my mother came back and I said the oul bat wanted me to go looking for her. me mother tore strips out of her

John_Rambo

pwurple wrote: »

People are nicer to their dogs than their children sometimes.

But dogs are more loyal and you can't put kids in the boot (any more).

vicwatson

Can't imagine the state of the children if another road user, like a bus or truck, was to smash into the illegally parked car by accident.

bonzos

If it was a 2012/2013 car I would bet it was owned by travellers as they seem to think all disabled spaces are for their use. But since it is a 2007 Mercedes most travellers would be too proud to be seen in a car that old....more that likely its owned by the yummy mummy wife of some local big shot who is too important to obey the law.

pwurple

bonzos wrote: »

If it was a 2012/2013 car I would bet it was owned by travellers as they seem to think all disabled spaces are for their use. But since it is a 2007 Mercedes most travellers would be too proud to be seen in a car that old....more that likely its owned by the yummy mummy wife of some local big shot who is too important to obey the law.

Or some doting daddy who is up to his neck in "developments" that went wrong, sometime circa 2007 when he bought that car, and now needs to chinwag his way out of the mess with the bank.

John_Rambo

pwurple wrote: »

Or some doting daddy who is up to his neck in "developments" that went wrong, sometime circa 2007 when he bought that car, and now needs to chinwag his way out of the mess with the bank.

Yeah, with a blue suit and an iPhone and a bulldog with brown spots and he's probably not paying his mortgage, and the houses he built are crap and he cheats on his wife, with yours and he has two Casio watches from the confounded Celtic tiger and he has Calvin clien pants, what about the poor childer, actually he's a banker.. It's Richie Boucher!

This speculation stuff is fun actually.

mfceiling

John_Rambo wrote: »

But dogs are more loyal and you can't put kids in the boot (any more).

Pfffft...says who

working fool

John_Rambo wrote: »

Yeah, with a blue suit and an iPhone and a bulldog with brown spots and he's probably not paying his mortgage, and the houses he built are crap and he cheats on his wife, with yours and he has two Casio watches from the confounded Celtic tiger and he has Calvin clien pants, what about the poor childer, actually he's a banker.. It's Richie Boucher!

This speculation stuff is fun actually.

Could be robbing the bank
And have no cash for the nanny ?

condra

Pwurple, the double yellow line was a couple of meters continued from a left turn corner, definitely a dangerous place to park, especially so far out from the kerb.

the culture of deference

I reported a driver to the gardai before.

Middle of summer, 20+ C for a change. Car parked outside tesco's in direct sunlight for 10mins +, 3 kids under 6 in the back and the windows closed.

I went into the store and found 2 adults. Told them I had reported them and the husband started to get a bit mouthy with the wife telling him to shut up just lets go. The gardai said they would call around to the house later and talk to the parents.

On another occasion my partner was in tesco mullingar, also a sunny day. Car beside her had a newborn baby and a 3 year old. Windows closed 3 year screaming frantically. My wife called the gardai and waited 15 minutes until they arrived, the gardai went into the store to find the mother which took another 15 mins.

johnnydeep

the culture of deference wrote: »

I reported a driver to the gardai before.

Middle of summer, 20+ C for a change. Car parked outside tesco's in direct sunlight for 10mins +, 3 kids under 6 in the back and the windows closed.

I went into the store and found 2 adults. Told them I had reported them and the husband started to get a bit mouthy with the wife telling him to shut up just lets go. The gardai said they would call around to the house later and talk to the parents.

On another occasion my partner was in tesco mullingar, also a sunny day. Car beside her had a newborn baby and a 3 year old. Windows closed 3 year screaming frantically. My wife called the gardai and waited 15 minutes until they arrived, the gardai went into the store to find the mother which took another 15 mins.[/QUOTE]

must have been a mc donalds there