vrt put vw golf down 115hp but 150hp really

mangina

I bought a 00 english reg gt (red tdi) 150hp golf, i know its really 150hp as i this is my 3rd one of these cars, its 6 speed, heated seats, rain sensors etc, but when i got it vrted, i was charged 380 instead of 460 i thought it was going to be, happy days.

Has anyone thats vrted a car had a similar experience, i logged on to micksgarage site and put in english reg of car in but its still coming up 115hp for parts, (timing belt etc, for 115hp and 150 hp are totally different) a person thinking its really 115hp would be buying different parts for the car:o

sean1141

The 150 wasnt about untill late 01 afaik. What engine code is on the data sticker? It can be found on the boot beside the spare wheel under the the carpet or on the timing belt cover. 3 letter code like AJM

Fizman

It's 115 bhp.

ba_barabus

Fizman wrote: »

It's 115 bhp.

And a highline iirc

Photoshop

Looks like you have been had.

150bhp model wasn't out until 2001.

This looks like your one, 99 - 00 GTI TDI 113bhp.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/volkswagen/golf/hatchback-1997/17835/

tossy

this a joke surely ?

thecomedian

I think the engine code is ARL for the 150.
There should be a sticker in the boot when you lift up the mat, with the engine code and the kw power on it.
Should be 110 kw

ba_barabus

tossy wrote: »

this a joke surely ?

If it isn't somebody is going to have to put up with a bad case of mangina

tossy

It seems like years since we had a red DI thread.

mangina

Photoshop wrote: »

Looks like you have been had.

150bhp model wasn't out until 2001.

This looks like your one, 99 - 00 GTI TDI 113bhp.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/volkswagen/golf/hatchback-1997/17835/

its was made nov 00, i think it is 150, its five door, the engine cover has t (red di) and the back has (red tdi) i know vw starts their new year modelwise in oct, i used to have a 03 red di, but this thing is noticably more powerful, wtf

mullingar

I thought minimum VRT was €720.....

mangina

thecomedian wrote: »

I think the engine code is ARL for the 150.
There should be a sticker in the boot when you lift up the mat, with the engine code and the kw power on it.
Should be 110 kw

code is AJM

mangina

mullingar wrote: »

I thought minimum VRT was €720.....

NOT WHEN ITS 00 WITH 170KM MILES IT AINT, CHECK THE CALCULATOR, got it vrt in tullamore in fact

thecomedian

mangina wrote: »

code is AJM

It's 115bhp so.

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/115690/786306.aspx


Could have been remapped though?

markc1184

AJM is 115bhp, same as my old '00 one.

Mycroft H

I think someone stuck an extra red letter on the back of the car.....

mangina

thecomedian wrote: »

It's 115bhp so.

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/115690/786306.aspx


Could have been remapped though?

yeah defo been played with, either chipped or remapped or both lol, its very clean, only paid 1500, plus the vrt, 115 it is, im not really pissed off, dont think the seller knew any different now i can buy timing belt etc, thanks for your help (ps i dont believe that mileage either)

mangina

BX 19 wrote: »

I think someone stuck an extra red letter on the back of the car....ffs

sean1141

A 00 115bhp would have a factory fitted TDI badge as the old 110 would still have been around badged as TDI
When the older engines were discontinued the 115 was TDI 130 was TDI and 150 was TDI
Lots of people swapped badges and stuck extra badges on these so buying one for a certain power on the badge alone is dangerous!!
Oh and the spec you listed could be got on a 1.4petrol (except the 6speed box)

Guy:Incognito

mullingar wrote: »

I thought minimum VRT was €720.....

Each Co2 band has a different minimum. €720 is the minimum for one of the higher bands.

mangina

sean1141 wrote: »

A 00 115bhp would have a factory fitted TDI badge as the old 110 would still have been around badged as TDI
When the older engines were discontinued the 115 was TDI 130 was TDI and 150 was TDI
Lots of people swapped badges and stuck extra badges on these so buying one for a certain power on the badge alone is dangerous!!
Oh and the spec you listed could be got on a 1.4petrol (except the 6speed box)

vw.....confusing, from blue "i"s to red eyes.....mines a pd engine, its defo been tuned way above 115, the ****er pulls like **** in 6th.. how do i find out if it was remapped or chipped then, cheers for that

Hootanany

Does it ate the juice

sean1141

Yes very confusing!! Yup the 115 is a pd.

A decent tuner like http://www.chippedire.com/ will tell you if it has been mapped.

I dont think its possible to chip a pd. Chipping was used on the older ve engines where a chip in the ecu was replaced. Mapping is on pd where the software is changed without physically opening the ecu.

mangina

Hootanany wrote: »

Does it ate the juice

havent drove it much to notice really, still waitin on insurance disc and tax in post and im paro driving round mullingar, police are just swines for pulling ppl in

mangina

sean1141 wrote: »

Yes very confusing!! Yup the 115 is a pd.

A decent tuner like http://www.chippedire.com/ will tell you if it has been mapped.

I dont think its possible to chip a pd. Chipping was used on the older ve engines where a chip in the ecu was replaced. Mapping is on pd where the software is changed without physically opening the ecu.

you mean someone can plug into diagnostics and change the hp on a scanner/laptop?

Drummerboy08

I'd say she's some antichrist to go lad, these look really well with a set of bbs on but personally I like those wheels that are on the RS8

sean1141

mangina wrote: »

you mean someone can plug into diagnostics and change the hp on a scanner/laptop?

Basically yes but its not a diagnosis machine. They rewrite the software on the ecu. Loads of different things are changed. A decent tuner will draw up a custom map based on your cars condition, age, millage, other modifications, what power you want, economy etc where the lesser tuners will just give you a generic map which will be the same for all models of that engine.

Not any Tom Dick or Harry can do it...

mangina

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

I'd say she's some antichrist to go lad, these look really well with a set of bbs on but personally I like those wheels that are on the RS8

bbs very pricey, it has 5 spoke gti wheels on, ill leave them, had 17s on an o3 red di, nothing but grief, this is faster than the 03 one....my head is wrecked

sean1141

Was the 03 a 6speed? What wheels were they?

dgt

Does she have the evry mod?

Does she boooo like a 110/90?

Is she an antichrist to go lad?

thecomedian

mangina wrote: »

bbs very pricey, it has 5 spoke gti wheels on, ill leave them, had 17s on an o3 red di, nothing but grief, this is faster than the 03 one....my head is wrecked

Anything more than 16s ruins those cars IMO

B Rabbit

dgt wrote: »

Does she have the evry mod?

Does she boooo like a 110/90?

Is she an antichrist to go lad?

No need for this sh1t.
As for buying a mk4 based on badges and engine cover ? Forget about it

mangina

sean1141 wrote: »

Was the 03 a 6speed? What wheels were they?

yes it was, 3 spoke leather steering wheel, they where 5 spoke wolfrace, paid 550 for them so cheap enough, bad on strotts and bushings, potholes led to 2 blowouts, also when if u over reved in first/second the front wheels would hit the arch expensive feckin tyres! (the front always wear thin fast), 15s are best for tdi

mangina

B Rabbit wrote: »

No need for this sh1t.
As for buying a mk4 based on badges and engine cover ? Forget about it

i bought it because of the test drive mostly, that fooled me and i never owned a tdi less than 03, the drive convinced me it was 150.

Mycroft H

sean1141 wrote: »

Basically yes but its not a diagnosis machine. They rewrite the software on the ecu. Loads of different things are changed. A decent tuner will draw up a custom map based on your cars condition, age, millage, other modifications, what power you want, economy etc where the lesser tuners will just give you a generic map which will be the same for all models of that engine.

Not any Tom Dick or Harry can do it...

Decent fellow in Enfield that does it.

dgt

B Rabbit wrote: »

No need for this sh1t.
As for buying a mk4 based on badges and engine cover ? Forget about it

Whilst part of my post was tongue in cheek, there was a serious part to it. The evry mod is easy to impliment on a TDI of that vintage and thus increases fuelling, more power etc. What I was suggesting was to see if such trickery was implimented on the car in question.

The only way to tell what power it actually has is on a dyno.

There was no need to snap at me

mangina

BX 19 wrote: »

Decent fellow in Enfield that does it.

have a fella in mullingar, a russian, he is good im told, work with his missus, ive changed the scabby 4 spoke plastic steering wheel to the 03 leather steering wheel and i have an airbag light error i need him to wipe anyway before nct, but if its remapped anyway which i am positive, will the sneaky russian try and wipe my eye..just throwing it into nct as is to see if it passes, no use spending money if i dont need to

biko

Keep it helpful folks.
Thank you.

mangina

dgt wrote: »

Whilst part of my post was tongue in cheek, there was a serious part to it. The evry mod is easy to impliment on a TDI of that vintage and thus increases fuelling, more power etc. What I was suggesting was to see if such trickery was implimented on the car in question.

The only way to tell what power it actually has is on a dyno.

There was no need to snap at me

im a bit thick, whats a dyno?

sean1141

mangina wrote: »

yes it was, 3 spoke leather steering wheel, they where 5 spoke wolfrace, paid 550 for them so cheap enough, bad on strotts and bushings, potholes led to 2 blowouts, also when if u over reved in first/second the front wheels would hit the arch expensive feckin tyres! (the front always wear thin fast), 15s are best for tdi

I had 17s on my leon fr (150) and never had a problem with wheels, tyres or any suspension components and I drove on mostly bad back roads. Don't think I even got a puncture in the 3 years I had it.

Were these the wheels you had?

sean1141

mangina wrote: »

im a bit thick, whats a dyno?

Rolling road. Used to test power of a car. Google it

mangina

sean1141 wrote: »

Rolling road. Used to test power of a car. Google it

like a car threadmill ha

mangina

sean1141 wrote: »

I had 17s on my leon fr (150) and never had a problem with wheels, tyres or any suspension components and I drove on mostly bad back roads. Don't think I even got a puncture in the 3 years I had it.

Were these the wheels you had?

thats them, i never had issues with suspension, but i knew it wasnt right for them, the potholes i hit where monsters in fairness, i claimed 200 euro off fingal county council as one actually buckled the alloy

sean1141

They are pure dirt of a wheel. Decent 17s will give no bother unless you hit every pothole you see. 225/45R17s would be a factory size tyre for the mk4 platform. Stick with decent brands like bbs (not replica bbs) or factory fitted wheels