Gw 35-38 The captains

Iused2likebusts · 23-04-2013 2:05pm #1

As seen last night its so important to always try and have the best captain choice in your team. With that in mind transfers over the next few weeks are crucial. Focus of course will be on DGW players but its only 1 week out of the last 4. I brought in tevez as although I dont think hes going to play both games of the double he is a great captain choice for GW 35 & 38. Im hanging onto walcott as I want him for captain for GW37.
My Captaincy thoughts
GW 35 Tevez Home to WHam or Mata/hazard Home to swansea if either dont start on thurs nite.
GW 36 Bale Southampton Home Spurs Away
GW 37 Walcott Home to Wigan. Wigan play cup final 3 days before as do city so tevez/aguero away to reading may not start.
GW 38 Tevez Home to Norwich or I may get in sturridge at home to qpr.
Like most on here Id imagine if we get the captaincy right over the next 4 weeks our money leagues will be won.

SlickRic · 23-04-2013 2:10pm

at the moment...

GW 35 will be Bale.
GW 36 will be Bale
GW 37 will possibly be Walcott.
GW 38 could well be Bale again, especially if Champions League places are up for grabs still.

FutureGuy · 23-04-2013 2:11pm

Bale wil start every single game and has a Champions League place as a carrot.

Oh, and he scores lots of points.

RE GW37, Wigan are fighting for their lives. There will be no rotation from them at all. The cup will be a secondary concern.

moreau · 23-04-2013 2:12pm

As above

Except maybe Bale GW35
And maybe a player not wearing swimming trunks under his shorts GW38:D Bale it is so!

SlickRic · 23-04-2013 2:13pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Bale wil start every single game and has a Champions League place as a carrot banana.

FutureGuy · 23-04-2013 2:14pm

SlickRic wrote: »

Just splurted out my tea. Well done.

Jax Teller · 23-04-2013 2:15pm

Bale has said today he's playing through the pain so it might be worth bearing that in mind.

Iused2likebusts · 23-04-2013 2:20pm

Jax Teller wrote: »

Bale has said today he's playing through the pain so it might be worth bearing that in mind.

I seen that last sunday could just as easily have ended up a 1 pointer with him going off early. Going forward getting through the 90 mins and scoring will give him a lot more confidence on his ankle

SlickRic · 23-04-2013 2:24pm

Jax Teller wrote: »

Bale has said today he's playing through the pain so it might be worth bearing that in mind.

if he can walk, he'll be playing.

and if a half-fit Bale does that against City, then we've nothing to worry about.

Santi101 · 23-04-2013 2:26pm

Tevez or Bale this week for me.

Hogey007 · 23-04-2013 2:39pm

if mata doesn't start or comes off after 60/70 mins versus basle thursday i think i'll go with him. Swansea's season is well and truly over and it wouldn't come as a shock to me if chelsea hit them for 6 or 7. bale has a much tougher game, wigan were dreadfully unlucky to lose their last 2 games, played well in both, especially against city.

moreau · 23-04-2013 2:50pm

Hogey007 wrote: »

if mata doesn't start or comes off after 60/70 mins versus basle thursday i think i'll go with him. Swansea's season is well and truly over and it wouldn't come as a shock to me if chelsea hit them for 6 or 7. bale has a much tougher game, wigan were dreadfully unlucky to lose their last 2 games, played well in both, especially against city.

Yeah Mata is a decent shout too but I don't have him.

Good point about Wigan. They have been great recently in some games including beating Everton 3-0 away in Cup. I agree the game for Spurs is not as easy as appears in that Wigan are actually well able to play against top sides in terms of possession (I really hope they stay up!!:eek:). They are however woeful at the back and can get caught at any time as shown by West Ham last week.

It's 50:50 between Bale and Tevez for me at the moment

Iused2likebusts · 23-04-2013 3:37pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

RE GW37, Wigan are fighting for their lives. There will be no rotation from them at all. The cup will be a secondary concern.

I do think they will play the majority of their first team in the cup final and then most of the same players 3 days later against a fresh arsenal team going for CL qualification. Get through the next two gameweeks first though they could be relegated by gw 37 if results go against them.

moreau · 24-04-2013 12:13pm

hmmm over on FISO Bale is at 77% for capt GW35

I though Tevez would be close to him?! I am currently thinking Tevez

Looking forward to seeing poll here

Dearg81 · 24-04-2013 12:27pm

moreau wrote: »

hmmm over on FISO Bale is at 77% for capt GW35

I though Tevez would be close to him?! I am currently thinking Tevez

Looking forward to seeing poll here

That is surprising. I have it on Tevez at the moment too. The Wigan v Spurs game is a tough one to call, Wigan beat them 1-0 earlier in the season and have been playing well lately despite losing. I think City will beat West Ham comfortably.

Cantona's Collars · 24-04-2013 12:35pm

Jax Teller wrote: »

Bale has said today he's playing through the pain so it might be worth bearing that in mind.

Apparently he has a very low pain threshold so playing through the pain for him would be nothing to anyone else,he's fine & just a little soft.

keane2097 · 24-04-2013 4:05pm

The Wigan fighting for their lives thing is a nonsense. Like they wouldn't have been trying as hard if they game was on two months ago?

You can maybe make a very tenuous argument about teams with nothing to play for caring less, but Wigan are where they are because they're crap, not because they've been saving an extra level of effort for the last four games of the year.

Obviously, even if it was true it would be nullified by Spurs' super-try-hard for making the top four.

24-04-2013 9:33pm

keane2097 wrote: »

The Wigan fighting for their lives thing is a nonsense. Like they wouldn't have been trying as hard if they game was on two months ago?

You can maybe make a very tenuous argument about teams with nothing to play for caring less, but Wigan are where they are because they're crap, not because they've been saving an extra level of effort for the last four games of the year.

Obviously, even if it was true it would be nullified by Spurs' super-try-hard for making the top four.

Wigan, every year, fight like animals towards the end of the season. I wouldn't bet against them.

WoollyRedHat · 24-04-2013 9:37pm

I have Wally as captain for Week 35

keane2097 · 25-04-2013 10:12am

Dónal wrote: »

Wigan, every year, fight like animals towards the end of the season. I wouldn't bet against them.

Bet against them what? Believe me, nobody who makes a living from betting on soccer will be adjusting for this supposed increase in effort from Wigan, it's cognitive bias from a small sample where over the last couple of seasons they've been in the danger zone and have stayed up. They must have done something, "I know they fought like beavers to win the last five after only trying a bit to win the other 33".

FutureGuy · 25-04-2013 10:47am

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I have Wally as captain for Week 35

Walcott is about 6th on my captain list for this week!

FutureGuy · 25-04-2013 10:56am

keane2097 wrote: »

The Wigan fighting for their lives thing is a nonsense. Like they wouldn't have been trying as hard if they game was on two months ago?

You can maybe make a very tenuous argument about teams with nothing to play for caring less, but Wigan are where they are because they're crap, not because they've been saving an extra level of effort for the last four games of the year.

Obviously, even if it was true it would be nullified by Spurs' super-try-hard for making the top four.

So you are saying that a group of players playing the final few games of a season with their premiership survival on the line are in no way less motivated than the same group of players in October when no such imminent threat exists?

On the other side, a team like Spurs are no more motivated when they are on the cusp of playing CL football than when they are in January playing Stoke?

Strongly disagree with that tbh.

I'm not saying that they were saving themselves all season nor am I saying that they will be transformed as that would be ridiculous, but there will be more effort applied.

So yes, for me, of course they will be fighting for their lives.

keane2097 · 25-04-2013 10:59am

FutureGuy wrote: »

So you are saying that a group of players playing the final few games of a season with their premiership survival on the line are in no way less motivated than the same group of players in October when no such imminent threat exists?

On the other side, a team like Spurs are no more motivated when they are on the cusp of playing CL football than when they are in January playing Stoke?

Strongly disagree with that tbh.

I'm not saying that they were saving themselves all season nor am I saying that they will be transformed as that would be ridiculous, but there will be more effort applied.

So yes, for me, of course they will be fighting for their lives.

I'm saying it makes no appreciable difference to their level of performance and that the difference in effort levels is probably < 1%

Iused2likebusts · 25-04-2013 11:07am

FutureGuy wrote: »

Walcott is about 6th on my captain list for this week!

Not that Im captaining him , but he may play up front and Utd will not be at full pelt between 1 being on the beer and couple of late nights 2 A slightly weaker team 3 More at stake for Arsenal.
Having said all that Utd always seem to beat arsenal.

Iused2likebusts · 25-04-2013 11:10am

keane2097 wrote: »

Bet against them what? Believe me, nobody who makes a living from betting on soccer will be adjusting for this supposed increase in effort from Wigan, it's cognitive bias from a small sample where over the last couple of seasons they've been in the danger zone and have stayed up. They must have done something, "I know they fought like beavers to win the last five after only trying a bit to win the other 33".

Id be more inclined to put money on Wigan V Swansea now when wigan need the points and swansea have less motivation, than if wigan played swansea in December.

keane2097 · 25-04-2013 11:12am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Id be more inclined to put money on Wigan V Swansea now when wigan need the points and swansea have less motivation, than if wigan played swansea in December.

Yeah you can make an argument that some teams have less motivation now, but I still think it's pretty small. Arguing that Bale captainers need to worry about Wigan trying 100% now are automatically implying that they were only trying 95% over the last 6 months which is complete garbage.

Incidentally, I wouldn't be more inclined to put any money on them in any case, because if you've thought of it so have the bookies and it's already factored into their prices.

Iused2likebusts · 25-04-2013 11:33am

keane2097 wrote: »

Yeah you can make an argument that some teams have less motivation now, but I still think it's pretty small. Arguing that Bale captainers need to worry about Wigan trying 100% now are automatically implying that they were only trying 95% over the last 6 months which is complete garbage.

Incidentally, I wouldn't be more inclined to put any money on them in any case, because if you've thought of it so have the bookies and it's already factored into their prices.

I agree with your 95% trying argument it is ridiculous.
Also a good point on the bookies factoring it into the price a win is a win though and its worked for me in previous years so I suppose its stuck in my head.

Dearg81 · 25-04-2013 11:49am

keane2097 wrote: »

Bet against them what? Believe me, nobody who makes a living from betting on soccer will be adjusting for this supposed increase in effort from Wigan, it's cognitive bias from a small sample where over the last couple of seasons they've been in the danger zone and have stayed up. They must have done something, "I know they fought like beavers to win the last five after only trying a bit to win the other 33".

The difference is in their mentality, they are playing to win now in every match where as earlier in the season they would be happy enough settling for a draw against a team like Spurs.

Dearg81 · 25-04-2013 12:03pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Yeah you can make an argument that some teams have less motivation now, but I still think it's pretty small. Arguing that Bale captainers need to worry about Wigan trying 100% now are automatically implying that they were only trying 95% over the last 6 months which is complete garbage.

Incidentally, I wouldn't be more inclined to put any money on them in any case, because if you've thought of it so have the bookies and it's already factored into their prices.

Nobody mentioned an increase in trying in this thread from what I can see. The chances of Wigan winning have increased given their position which is reflected in lower odds from the bookies which you just mentioned.

In any case, this might actually work in Bales favour as Wigan will need to attack and they could leave themselves wide open at the back to counterattacks from Bale. Liverpool did this to them a couple of months ago.

So to summarize I haven't got a fck'in clue who to captain!

Iused2likebusts · 30-04-2013 1:16pm

Anyone not going to captain Bale this week and if so who and more importantly Why.

roryc · 30-04-2013 1:18pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Anyone not going to captain Bale this week and if so who and more importantly Why.

Seems the obvious choice but I need to gamble so might look at Tevez or Hazard.

FutureGuy · 30-04-2013 1:34pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Anyone not going to captain Bale this week and if so who and more importantly Why.

Barring injury, Bale is my captain this week. For me, it's an absolute no-brainer. 180 minutes, good fixtures and incredible form.

Even if I was chasing a lead, I would captain him.

Lemlin · 30-04-2013 6:32pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Barring injury, Bale is my captain this week. For me, it's an absolute no-brainer. 180 minutes, good fixtures and incredible form.

Even if I was chasing a lead, I would captain him.

Exactly. RVP a week ago showed what can happen people who attempt to be too clever.

90% of the time the obvious choice is the right one IMO.

If Bale can get a goal and assist against City, he can score against anyone in the league.

Skippy44 · 03-05-2013 11:54pm

keane2097 wrote: »

The Wigan fighting for their lives thing is a nonsense. Like they wouldn't have been trying as hard if they game was on two months ago?

You can maybe make a very tenuous argument about teams with nothing to play for caring less, but Wigan are where they are because they're crap, not because they've been saving an extra level of effort for the last four games of the year.

Your argument, on a Betfair/Bookies level is strictly true, Wigan are 2/1 to win @ WBA tomorrow. However, I wouldn't be as dismissive as you regarding Wigan players as FF prospects. Teams have historically raised their game to avoid relegation. Take Deportivo la Coruna for example this season. 4 wins in their 1st 29 games, 3wins and 2 draws in their last 5. Wigan have flirted with relegation in the past few years and have escaped with heightened performances in the final 4 or 5 weeks of the season. Their plight may be inescapable this season but they will score goals and will see their 2 games this gw as winnable. There will be goals. Gambling is one thing, FF another entirely.

Gw 35-38 The captains

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