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Progessive Ireland

  • 22-04-2013 04:55PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭


    Something to be proud of:

    Ireland is on the verge of two landmark bills: same-sex marriage and legalised abortion.

    Could we possibly see a legalised marijuana bill in the near future?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Limited legalised abortion already exists here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    kingsenny wrote: »
    Something to be proud of:

    Ireland is on the verge of two landmark bills: same-sex marriage and legalised abortion.

    Could we possibly see a legalised marijuana bill in the near future?

    Because legalised marijuana is as important as same-sex marriage or abortion issues? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Even if both those issues came to light, I still wouldn't call it progressive... it has a long way to go before that happens, and the current parties that we have in power won't do much to accelerate it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭kingtiger


    smash wrote: »
    Because legalised marijuana is as important as same-sex marriage or abortion issues? :confused:

    maybe not to you

    but to some people I am sure it matters a great deal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    kingsenny wrote: »
    Something to be proud of:

    Ireland is on the verge of two landmark bills: same-sex marriage and legalised abortion.

    Could we possibly see a legalised marijuana bill in the near future?

    if by "on the verge" you mean consecutive governments will drag their feet for an indeterminate amount of time, then yes, I suppose we are. legalized marijuana would be just around the corner then, if you define corner as next century. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    smash wrote: »
    Because legalised marijuana is as important as same-sex marriage or abortion issues? :confused:


    Why wouldn't it be if you were a straight male who enjoys his civil liberties ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    kingsenny wrote: »
    Something to be proud of:

    Ireland is on the verge of two landmark bills: same-sex marriage and legalised abortion.

    Could we possibly see a legalised marijuana bill in the near future?

    Hopefully not!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    kingsenny wrote: »
    Could we possibly see a legalised marijuana bill in the near future?
    Wait long enough you could see Dolphins on roller blades. Doesn't necessarily mean anybody wants that to happen though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    smash wrote: »
    Because legalised marijuana is as important as same-sex marriage or abortion issues? :confused:

    Nothing those anti-Catholic, pro-sodomites love more than getting hepped up on marijuana tablets after a long hard day of baby killing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    I'm not much for the legalized marijuana bill. I'm more for the legalized opiates bill.

    MMMMMMMMM Opium.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 404 ✭✭frank reynolds


    Bend the rules to suit yourself.
    Weed is illegal, but if you like to smoke it, then you will find a way.

    abortion is illegal, but, if you dont want a child, go to the netherlands or england.

    Same sex marriage is on the way to being legalised, which is just great in general. it proves that this country is on its way to being LESS backwards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    **** da weed bro


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    It's a bit of a frivolous jump from abortion and gay rights to puffing on a bit of weed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Hopefully not!

    .. said the drug dealers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    We're inexorably moving toward adopting similar legislation to the Swedes, which seeks to criminalise men for the purchase of sex, even where that transaction is entered into freely by both parties.

    That's not progressive to my mind, it's John-Charles McQuaid revisited. It's also odd to find Trade Unions and others on the left pushing such an agenda - especially so, as it was they who traditionally decried the pernicious influence of the Church in the formulation of repressive social policy.

    Legislating for X and same-sex marriage are to be welcomed, but I don't think we should necessarily be handing out plaudits - we're simply doing what is right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Why is abortion and drugs considered progressive now? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Arcsin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Why is abortion and drugs considered progressive now? :confused:

    Depends on who you ask I suppose. I'd say its representative of the demographic of this forum. You would get a different view on other forums.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Why is abortion and drugs considered progressive now? :confused:

    Well abortion certainly is considered progressive as frankly, it takes us a bit out of the Stone Age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    smash wrote: »
    Well abortion certainly is considered progressive as frankly, it takes us a bit out of the Stone Age.
    Some issues transcend time. The value placed on human life is one of them.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 19 Muscles From Brussels


    smash wrote: »
    Because legalised marijuana is as important as same-sex marriage or abortion issues? :confused:

    Yeah it's more important to me. I'm not looking for an abortion or a gay marriage any time soon but I'd like a chance to decide what I put into my own body. I also don't get offended for other people. All of this probably sounds weird to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Arcsin wrote: »
    Depends on who you ask I suppose. I'd say its representative of the demographic of this forum. You would get a different view on other forums.
    Yeah I guess everyone has different view of what progressive is. It's like the word good. Everyone has a different view of what "good" is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Irish_wolf


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Why is abortion and drugs considered progressive now? :confused:

    Medical marijuana should be legal in my view. Especially for people with cancer, as they can get serious stomach problems during chemo. Weed helps with this as well as being a general relaxant.

    Skunk and other strands of weed, I'm not so sure about. Unfortunately my family has a history of bowel cancer. If I get the cancer, I'd want the best drug for stomach and general discomfort with the least amount of side effects i.e. Weed, and I'd much rather pay a doctor to get prescribe me some, than give to some eejit who has no idea where his particular brand comes from, where the profits could be going towards organised crime.

    So I guess progressive in the sense that we've moved passed the mindset of All Drugs Are Bad tm and into an age where we can see the benefits of such things. This is just my view of course and I may be biased given my possible future need of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Some issues transcend time. The value placed on human life is one of them.
    Yawn...
    Yeah it's more important to me. I'm not looking for an abortion or a gay marriage any time soon but I'd like a chance to decide what I put into my own body. I also don't get offended for other people. All of this probably sounds weird to you.
    I'm sure legal or not, you still put it into your body anyway.


  • Site Banned Posts: 19 Muscles From Brussels


    smash wrote: »


    I'm sure legal or not, you still put it into your body anyway.

    What are you even talking about bro? It's laws we're discussing. Get out of here with that bullsit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    smash wrote: »
    Yawn....
    lol, how eloquent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    What are you even talking about bro? It's laws we're discussing. Get out of here with that bullsit.

    You used the word "bro".

    Therefore your argument is invalid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Irish_wolf wrote: »
    Medical marijuana should be legal in my view. Especially for people with cancer, as they can get serious stomach problems during chemo. Weed helps with this as well as being a general relaxant.

    Skunk and other strands of weed, I'm not so sure about. Unfortunately my family has a history of bowel cancer. If I get the cancer, I'd want the best drug for stomach and general discomfort with the least amount of side effects i.e. Weed, and I'd much rather pay a doctor to get prescribe me some, than give to some eejit who has no idea where his particular brand comes from, where the profits could be going towards organised crime.

    So I guess progressive in the sense that we've moved passed the mindset of All Drugs Are Bad tm and into an age where we can see the benefits of such things. This is just my view of course and I may be biased given my possible future need of it.
    Of course marijuana should be legalised for medical reasons. We already have diamorphine *ahem heroine ahem* in hospitals.


  • Site Banned Posts: 19 Muscles From Brussels


    summerskin wrote: »
    You used the word "bro".

    Therefore your argument is invalid.

    Not that easy bro.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    There will be progress when folks start referring to the plant as Cannabis and not that racist term dreamt up by politicians........ marijuana.


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