Fore golf v other off the shelf fitting service - High Handicapper

Someday

foregolf from what I hear Offer a great service but I am not convinced they are for a high handicapper like me at 24 ! They would come in at twice the price also from what hear ! But I am up to being corrected on this ? I think the other fitting guys like mcguirks or halfpenny would fit a set that would suit me and I would get Down to 20 over time ! Also fitting should take place later in the year ?

mike12

Hi,
Basic fitting will be fine at that handicap, i think that anytime will be fine there shouldn't be a long bedding in period. For lower handicaps where distance control is a big thing i think the end of the season would be the best time.
Mike

ShivasIrons

mike12 wrote: »

Hi,
Basic fitting will be fine at that handicap, i think that anytime will be fine there shouldn't be a long bedding in period. For lower handicaps where distance control is a big thing i think the end of the season would be the best time.
Mike

Why do you think basic fitting is fine for higher handicaps?

Getting better advice will save in the long run.

Here's an article from Tom Wishon, a great club fitter.

http://wishongolf.com/custom-clubfitting-is-more-beneficial-for-mid-high-handicap-than-low-handicap-golfers/

mike12

A 24 handicapper isn't going to have a repeatable swing as long as the lie and the shaft are ok then that is all he needs.
Mike

Someday

The others do a custom fit but not at the detail of fore golf !

Someday

Anyone else want to put their thoughts on this ?

bustercherry

ShivasIrons wrote: »

Why do you think basic fitting is fine for higher handicaps?

Getting better advice will save in the long run.

Here's an article from Tom Wishon, a great club fitter.

http://wishongolf.com/custom-clubfitting-is-more-beneficial-for-mid-high-handicap-than-low-handicap-golfers/

Did you actually read that article? I would say all 7 points are the basics and you will get that with mcguirks or halfpenny.

I'd have to agree with Mike. If you don't have a repeatable swing and make consistent contact with the ball; a more technical fitting is pointless.

Someday

Yes bustercherry but curious on what other people have to say.

My take on it that the Golf Shop custom fitting will do until I get down under 19 !

parseeker

i'd advise you to talk to the Pro you get lessons from ... no need to look at the likes of fore golf until you get to single digits at least maybe even 5.
if you dont take lessons then i dont see why you want a custom fit .. if you want to get better any stock set up clubs and lessons will in a couple of months far out perform a custom fit set without lessons.

on the other hand if you have a pile of cash and want new toys then fair enough ..

mike12

Someday wrote: »

Yes bustercherry but curious on what other people have to say.

My take on it that the Golf Shop custom fitting will do until I get down under 19 !

If you want to improve then you swing will change so no point getting a fit from 4golf that will be the wrong spec in a years time on a swing that is different day to day.
Mike

Someday

Thanks all - I need new clubs and I think a fit from mcguirks will do !

nin2010

If your swing is changing as you are learning the game then you are better off going for a fit in mcguirks as others have mentioned.

I would like to point out that the prices aren't twice that of mcguirks though. I paid 450 for the Callaway Razr fit xtreme which is 409 in McGuirks and I paid 880 for Taylormade Rocketbladez 3-pw which would be around 650 if they sold 3-pw. Plus you pay 100euro for the fitting. Those are all custom shafts and custom built grips to suit your hands and swing. I'm not sure how the prices of the Project X on the driver and Dynamic Gold on the irons compare to stock shafts.

The whole service and the technology they use is fantastic. You should definitely check them out when you get your handicap down.

spacecoyote

You could try mcguirks in kinsealy, they have a shop attaches to a range which is a lot better than hitting in an enclosed bay as you can get a bit better feedback by seeing the actual flight.

Pretty sure its 30 for the fit, but they'll prob knock that off if you buy

GreeBo

op, besides fitting, why do you think you need new clubs at all?
I, like many on here, got lower than average on a crappy second hand at of no name clubs (unless you have all heard of copper classics?)

I did it without lessons which was stupid and pig headed of me. I know others who dropped 15 shots in two years with regular lessons.

lessons are the key to better golf. if you are not average dimensions then get a basic fitting if you are getting new clubs. if your pro didn't mention them, you don't need them.

Someday

I am getting Lessons, Clubs were purchased second hand and I need a new set next year, he said there is more forgiving clubs out there but not pushy on it !

GreeBo

Unless he says you need them, spend that money on lessons instead.
Why do you think you "need a new set next year"?

Give yourself a target:
i.e. when I get to X I will get myself a new Y.

Both sets of clubs I have had are second hand, I had the first from 18 down to 12 (had set single figures as the target but won a captains prize with them and retired them early with full honours )
The second set will be with me until I get to 6, so 2 shots to go.

shaneon77

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My take on it that the Golf Shop custom fitting will do until I get down under 19 ![/QUOTE]

You may find yourself getting down below 19 quicker after a good custom fit/ build. Its chickens and eggs.
I'd imagine very few golfers find their handicaps going up instead of down after a custom fit.
just my 2c worth.

GreeBo

shaneon77 wrote: »

You may find yourself getting down below 19 quicker after a good custom fit/ build. Its chickens and eggs.
I'd imagine very few golfers find their handicaps going up instead of down after a custom fit.
just my 2c worth.

Most people drop shots by getting some lessons...far more than by getting custom fit.
If custom fit was enough then you should immediately see a difference...I'd wager you wont, as otherwise your pro would be advising new clubs.

Also why an arbitrary number like 19?
What cant you do at 19 that you can at 15...or 12?
At that level its all short game and recovery i.e. lessons and practice.
I think you are fooling yourself if you think new clubs will make any difference.

Dont get me wrong, shiny things are great, just dont set any expectations on them, and certainly dont get them instead of lessons.

Someday

How tall are you GreeBo ?

DuckSlice

I agree with greebo, custom fit clubs won't make the difference it's lessons and practice! I played with a set of masters irons until I was about 17, then I bought a set of Wilson fat shafts an inch longer and 2 deg upright as I had grown quiet a bit since I was 13! My handicap with the masters was 19.4 my handicap a year after using the wilsons was 18.6. I got 4 lessons as a present for my 18th, after the 4 lessons and about 3/4 months my handicap was 15, clubs don't make a massive difference technique does!!

GreeBo

Someday wrote: »

How tall are you GreeBo ?

5'11", why?

Someday

Clubs off the shelf are set at 5 '10 people, I ma just over 6 ft ! Yes, Lessons are important but you need the right tools in your hand, confirmed by my pro !

shaneon77

There is also the placebo effect of buying shiny new things that are made to measure. The onus is then on you to make the shots. As I said before its a chickens and eggs situation. If you are committed to a practice regime then do it with custom clubs.
Is there any benefit improving with equipment that you mean to replace after you get lower?
I agree that you cannot buy a better game, off the shelf, in mcguirks etc... Grow into a new swing with properly fitted clubs would be my advice.

GreeBo

shaneon77 wrote: »

There is also the placebo effect of buying shiny new things that are made to measure. The onus is then on you to make the shots. As I said before its a chickens and eggs situation. If you are committed to a practice regime then do it with custom clubs.
Is there any benefit improving with equipment that you mean to replace after you get lower?
I agree that you cannot buy a better game, off the shelf, in mcguirks etc... Grow into a new swing with properly fitted clubs would be my advice.

The shiny effect doesnt last, just ask anyone who bought a new putter a couple of months ago...I'll bet they arent dropping as often anymore.

I disagree its chicken and egg. You could get to scratch without new clubs. You dont *need* new clubs to get better...you may even get worse (Are you reading Rory?)
If you are not getting any better then book a block of lessons and save your money.

If you are improving with your current equipment then you are improving. Forget about the clubs unless you are drastically different than "normal".

also, saying that clubs are built for 5'10" means nothing.
arm, leg, torso, neck length all change your angles, even if you are 5'10".
However, this difference makes very little difference at our level, unnoticeable compared to the big over the top move and shoddy weight transfer.