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Drugged by friend's wife...

  • 20-04-2013 7:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭


    This is going to sound bizarre, and it is.

    I was at my so called friend/work colleagues house a few days ago to work on a project for our job. My wife was there also, helping out. We were invited to stay for a BBQ with him and his wife, which we did. We don't really know her, but know enough to know she is a bit "out there" to say the least...

    I knew she was into drugs, and regretfully shared a joint with her at their house when I first met her. So when I met her again, she was eager to turn me into her smoking buddy, which I was uncomfortable with....

    My wife has never taken drugs, and really had no wish to. But this women was constantly badgering her to chill out/loosen up and try a marajuana brownie or whatever they are called. My wife didn't exactly agree, but didn't rule it out either.

    Not long after this, my wife and I agreed we were going to leave, as the couple were obviously not getting on too well, him probably not impressed with her behaviour. His wife wasn't too happy about this, and after disappearing into the house for a while reappeared with "dessert". Half a brownie and a slice of pizza for us both. Now, both of us probably realised deep down that there was hash in the brownie, but thought half couldn't do us much harm.

    We ate our desert, and after a half an hour, went through the worst night of our lives. Turned out the crazy bitch had spiked the pizza with either magic mushrooms or LSD... It was an absolute nightmare, we were terrified. Both of us didn't know if we were alive or dead, who each other was, what was real, what wasn't. We both projectile vomited and just sat like zombies, internally freaking out, like being on an unstoppable rollercoaster that was never goin to stop...it's a miracle someone didn't get hurt.

    There were occasional moments of clarity, when one of us would have an idea of what was real. We both pleaded with my colleague to call an ambulance but he wouldn't, in case of trouble with the law presumably. Instead he just kept trying to get rid of us, asking us if we were ready to go home, and hours later we eventually came round a bit and got a lift home with him.

    This was a few days ago. We don't know what to do now. We went to the doctor yesterday but were told there was no test available for it. We haven't gone to the police yet and don't know if there is any point. They also have a young kid in the house so we are freaked about that. Also, I have to work with him going forward. We are in a small team so work closely together, often just the two of us alone. If I could just ignore him we would be happy to put this behind us and move on, but I don't have that luxury.

    Also, there is the further complication of both of us being in the US on work visas. If I follow this up in work, he would probably be fired and have to leave the country (and possibly me also) so I'm really torn as to what to do, if anything.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I'd just leave it. If you feel like reporting it I'd contact a lawyer first and ask what his opinion on likelihood of prosecution etc. Possible that if you report it they'll either deny it and/or if something is found they simply say you's both took it voluntarily and knew what it was. Then it's your word vs theirs and I doubt you the police would be able to do anything else other than drop it. Same if you mention it to the work boss - can of worms opened if they deny it and it's going to be very difficult for you to prove. As for in work I'd just get on with it and be professional towards him and that's it. Tough situation though, I think it's best just to go with your gut feeling on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭DoctorBoo


    I'd be inclined to agree; a lawyer will most likely be in a better position to advise you on the potential for prosecution. Even with proof you ingested the drug, how could prove it wasn't voluntary?

    What a horrible experience for you both. What I can't figure out is why she would do it? What did she stand to gain?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PostHack


    I'd just leave it. If you feel like reporting it I'd contact a lawyer first and ask what his opinion on likelihood of prosecution etc. Possible that if you report it they'll either deny it and/or if something is found they simply say you's both took it voluntarily and knew what it was. Then it's your word vs theirs and I doubt you the police would be able to do anything else other than drop it. Same if you mention it to the work boss - can of worms opened if they deny it and it's going to be very difficult for you to prove. As for in work I'd just get on with it and be professional towards him and that's it. Tough situation though, I think it's best just to go with your gut feeling on this.

    Thanks for the reply.

    What you have outlined is more or less what we are thinking.... It a tricky situation to say the least. It wouldn't been half as bad if my colleague had taken some action on the night and not acted like a total dickhead. He has refused to let us know what we were given since, and is just trying to act like normal in work since the incident. He has also ignored us when we wanted to meet him to get an explanation.

    He has mentioned trying to find a new job in the past, so that's what I'm hoping for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PostHack


    DoctorBoo wrote: »
    I'd be inclined to agree; a lawyer will most likely be in a better position to advise you on the potential for prosecution. Even with proof you ingested the drug, how could prove it wasn't voluntary?

    What a horrible experience for you both. What I can't figure out is why she would do it? What did she stand to gain?!

    Well, she's nuts, basically.

    I think she was disappointed that we said we were going home, and not staying around to "party". So she thought she'd get us to loosen up....

    She has tried to apologise to me on the phone, and my wife on Facebook, but I don't think she sees it as that big a deal.

    The only reason we didn't go to the cops the next day was because we were relieved and surprised to be alive. We were kind of elated. Can't overemphasise how frightening an experience it was... Something neither of them seem to get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I dunno OP, my gut feeling here is that you should report it to the police. I understand what you are saying about the work situation etc but basically this person put your life at risk - she didnt know what kind of reaction you were going to have to the drug or possible interactions with other medications. Im not sure of the law on it - is it a crime to drug someone, but then not do anything bar hang out with them?

    Its a disgusting thing though and I really feel its a total invasion of personal boundaries - I would view it as the action of a nutjob.

    Perhaps consult a lawyer as others have said.

    Another option is to anonymously tip the police off that there is drug activity at that address and let the house get searched, social services involved?

    Thats an awful situation, I actually wouldnt be able to work with the person again after something like that.

    The only comparable thing I can think of where no crime is committed but you are frightened out of your wits is for someone to pull a gun on you and hold you for hours while constantly threatening to kill you. Then letting you go and laughing it off as a drunk joke. But what happened to you was worse as you dont even know what you ingested.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PostHack


    I dunno OP, my gut feeling here is that you should report it to the police. I understand what you are saying about the work situation etc but basically this person put your life at risk - she didnt know what kind of reaction you were going to have to the drug or possible interactions with other medications. Im not sure of the law on it - is it a crime to drug someone, but then not do anything bar hang out with them?

    Its a disgusting thing though and I really feel its a total invasion of personal boundaries - I would view it as the action of a nutjob.

    Perhaps consult a lawyer as others have said.

    Another option is to anonymously tip the police off that there is drug activity at that address and let the house get searched, social services involved?

    Thats an awful situation, I actually wouldnt be able to work with the person again after something like that.

    The only comparable thing I can think of where no crime is committed but you are frightened out of your wits is for someone to pull a gun on you and hold you for hours while constantly threatening to kill you. Then letting you go and laughing it off as a drunk joke. But what happened to you was worse as you dont even know what you ingested.


    Thanks.
    The only comparable thing I can think of where no crime is committed but you are frightened out of your wits is for someone to pull a gun on you and hold you for hours while constantly threatening to kill you. Then letting you go and laughing it off as a drunk joke. But what happened to you was worse as you dont even know what you ingested.

    Its funny that you should say that. We both actually thought separately that they were going to kill us at various points. One of many thought that went through our heads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    OP, you were drugged, against your free will. What she did was a crime, that woman is a psycho. Report her to the police. You don't even know what the crazy b1tch gave you. go ahead and speak to the police.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    tinkerbell wrote: »
    OP, you were drugged, against your free will. What she did was a crime, that woman is a psycho. Report her to the police. You don't even know what the crazy b1tch gave you. go ahead and speak to the police.

    Yeah, my first post was gut reaction, now that Ive thought about it for a few minutes I agree with the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PostHack


    tinkerbell wrote: »
    OP, you were drugged, against your free will. What she did was a crime, that woman is a psycho. Report her to the police. You don't even know what the crazy b1tch gave you. go ahead and speak to the police.

    I wish it was that straightforward.

    But there is a question of evidence for a start. It was undetectable in our systems apparently even the following morning. I don't know if I want to get into an our-word-against-them situation.

    I'm not sure if I want to go the work route.... Get him fired and for him to have to leave the country and have an enemy for life. Potentially the same happening to me, just for being associated with a drug situation.

    And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about working with him, being alone with him etc. Who knows what he is capable of if he is able to ignore so called friends in need of medical attention, just in case he gets into trouble.

    Nightmare.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Three Seasons


    tinkerbell wrote: »
    OP, you were drugged, against your free will. What she did was a crime, that woman is a psycho. Report her to the police. You don't even know what the crazy b1tch gave you. go ahead and speak to the police.

    I'd like to echo this post, who knows the damage she'll do in future in she's allowed to continue drugging people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    PostHack wrote: »
    But there is a question of evidence for a start. It was undetectable in our systems apparently even the following morning. I don't know if I want to get into an our-word-against-them situation.

    I would go and talk to the cops before writing things off for a lack of evidence. Most crimes are a word against another word. Why would you and your wife go to the police to report such a thing for no reason? Most assaults would be your word against the other persons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭DoctorBoo


    If she has tried to apologise via FB then you may have some useful written evidence there for any eventual case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    PostHack wrote: »
    I wish it was that straightforward.

    But there is a question of evidence for a start. It was undetectable in our systems apparently even the following morning. I don't know if I want to get into an our-word-against-them situation.

    I'm not sure if I want to go the work route.... Get him fired and for him to have to leave the country and have an enemy for life. Potentially the same happening to me, just for being associated with a drug situation.

    And I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about working with him, being alone with him etc. Who knows what he is capable of if he is able to ignore so called friends in need of medical attention, just in case he gets into trouble.

    Nightmare.

    OP, I am not sure objectively how any report to work or the police will resolve anything for you. You have mentioned getting him fired a few times but you willingly smoked weed with this woman and were indifferent to the food being made with marajuana. Things went too far but it is more a case of live and learn and your choice of friends than a criminal matter. I think it will descend into a tit for tat mud slinging with neither police nor work wanting to deal with it and your job being as much at risk as his. There is nothing detectable in your system. You would want to be willing to doggedly pursue this through the justice system to get anywhere and even then All your evidence is circumstantial and you have no reportable injury or damage to property so getting resources with capacity or desire to address this is unlikely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I would go and talk to the cops before writing things off for a lack of evidence. Most crimes are a word against another word. Why would you and your wife go to the police to report such a thing for no reason? Most assaults would be your word against the other persons.



    Very very rare (if even at all) that prosecutions are one persons word against another though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Very very rare (if even at all) that prosecutions are one persons word against another though.

    Yes, but even getting it on record with the police is worth something no? What if the next person she drugs reports it to the police, if its been reported before it would be taken more seriously?

    And in this case its going to be 2 peoples words, plus if there is some kind of FB apology there could be a case made?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Yes, but even getting it on record with the police is worth something no? What if the next person she drugs reports it to the police, if its been reported before it would be taken more seriously?

    And in this case its going to be 2 peoples words, plus if there is some kind of FB apology there could be a case made?



    It depends what the OP is willing to risk. If he reports it chances are his work will find out and I'd say that it would be very difficult for them to work together, so either someone will need to move department/leave and it's possible that it could be the OP if no charges are pressed against the couple. A facebook apology might help alright. I definitely think the OP should contact a lawyer first with all the evidence and see what they think before reporting anything to the cops/work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    It depends what the OP is willing to risk. If he reports it chances are his work will find out and I'd say that it would be very difficult for them to work together, so either someone will need to move department/leave and it's possible that it could be the OP if no charges are pressed against the couple. A facebook apology might help alright. I definitely think the OP should contact a lawyer first with all the evidence and see what they think before reporting anything to the cops/work.

    Yeah. It just seems appalling that someone can violate a person in such a manner and then possibly just be able to get away with it?

    From my own perspective I would risk a job over such a thing because a job is only a job and being violated by another employees wife would just not be an acceptable situation for me. I wouldnt be able to work with the person again afterwards. I realise other people may not feel as strongly or may not be able to afford to risk the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PostHack


    Thanks all for the replies. Very valid points all round.

    I think my wife and I have come to the conclusion that we will just have to put this behind us and try to move on.

    There is too much to risk at the moment. If this was just any job it would be different but we are here in the US on work visas and we're afraid that would be put in jeopardy if we take action. Especially given that evidence is thin on the ground...

    I/we are hoping that this doesn't come back and bite us at some point in the future but I think we're going to go with our gut instinct.

    My hope is that my former friend fecks off at some point soon to a different job. In the meantime I'm hoping to minimise contact with him. I'm considering approaching my boss to ask if we can work on separate projects if possible. Say we had a falling out or something....I'm not sure how that would work either, would I have to elaborate??

    Bit of a mess all round...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PostHack


    DoctorBoo wrote: »
    If she has tried to apologise via FB then you may have some useful written evidence there for any eventual case?

    True, but they both have been very carefully vague in their communications since. But screenshots etc will be kept just in case...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭a posse ad esse


    You are very lucky that nothing has not happened to you. I had a friend in uni that ended up in a coma because some stupid friend drugged her. I know if I were in your shoes, I would go to the police because the next person he tries to pull this stunt on may not turn out to be as lucky.

    As far as US immigration you have nothing to worry about, it would be your friend. He could be deported for doing something like that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    From your description of what happened it sounds like LSD, but that doesn't 'work' in food - it gets destroyed very very easily and quickly if it comes into contact with pretty much anything, and food is a definite no no. Must have been a natural hallucinogenic.

    Report it to the police.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    I'd just leave it. If you feel like reporting it I'd contact a lawyer first and ask what his opinion on likelihood of prosecution etc. Possible that if you report it they'll either deny it and/or if something is found they simply say you's both took it voluntarily and knew what it was. Then it's your word vs theirs and I doubt you the police would be able to do anything else other than drop it. Same if you mention it to the work boss - can of worms opened if they deny it and it's going to be very difficult for you to prove. As for in work I'd just get on with it and be professional towards him and that's it. Tough situation though, I think it's best just to go with your gut feeling on this.
    Ya I'd agree with this. I wouldn't go near the cops to be honest because:

    1 - You have no actual proof of this unless that facebook message contains her acknowledging her ownage and useage of drugs in your food. There is no physical evidence unless the drugs would still be in your system. Then the police have to go to their place and find evidence of those drugs, tieing your story with physical evidence.

    2 - They could deny it and you will end up looking like trouble starters, causing others to form opinions of you, affecting your social life.

    3 - You could be the ones that end up on record for falsely accusing people of something with no evidence, wasting police time etc.

    4 - You end up in trouble with your job, the law, and immigration.

    Any of these things could happen to you if you proceed to go to the police and / or your boss. I'd be very cautious. But I see you've decided not to do anything about it and I'm happy you decided that. I would be inclined to let it go and stay friendly and professional but keep your distance. I always advise people to NEVER let others pressure them into doing anything they don't want to. Unfortunately this sort of thing isn't as uncommon as you think. But live and learn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    I always advise people to NEVER let others pressure them into doing anything they don't want to.

    But they didnt get pressured, the food was spiked and given to them without them being told it was spiked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    Yes I read that, it's unfortunate but it happens. However, they shouldn't do anything rash without thinking it through. I'd be pretty upset if it happened to me, but I wouldn't go telling the police without solid evidence of what happened. Accusing someone of this is quite serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I dont see how the OP would be "on record for falsely accusing someone" - if there is no evidence either way then how can they be seen to be falsely accusing? All you can say is that an accusation was made for which there is no evidence.

    People report stuff to the police without solid evidence all the time. It doesnt mean that they risk all sorts of bad things.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭CaraMay


    If you go to the police you may get in to trouble for doing drugs with her before.

    Put it behind you and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    I dont see how the OP would be "on record for falsely accusing someone" - if there is no evidence either way then how can they be seen to be falsely accusing? All you can say is that an accusation was made for which there is no evidence.

    People report stuff to the police without solid evidence all the time. It doesnt mean that they risk all sorts of bad things.

    Do you propose he is honest with the police and says something along the the lines of 'I smoked joints with her and we were cool that there would be hash in the brownies but we think there was something more as we had a bad trip, can ye go and find out what drugs stash she has, but overlook the hash as obviously we were ok with that and I don't want to get myself in trouble, only them :rolleyes:
    In America they are strict on all drugs. He is of course taking a risk reporting it. I wouldn't. I don't see what more there is to gain with his scant evidence and history of smoking with them. She has apologised and they are no longer friends with the couple, I am not sure what other than hassle he has to gain from trying to get the police and work involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    In America they are strict on all drugs.

    Actually marijuana is legal in some states now and decrimimalised in many more.

    The point is, no police officer would care about someone sharing a joint. They really dont. But spiking someone with an hallucenogenic is a different ballgame - you could kill someone doing that.

    To say that because he shared a joint with someone it was ok for them to spike him with an hallucenogenic is like saying that because a girl kissed someone earlier it was ok for them to have sex with her later. People can withdraw consent. No one would be in trouble with the police for sharing a joint with someone - thats just silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    I dont see how the OP would be "on record for falsely accusing someone" - if there is no evidence either way then how can they be seen to be falsely accusing? All you can say is that an accusation was made for which there is no evidence.

    People report stuff to the police without solid evidence all the time. It doesnt mean that they risk all sorts of bad things.
    No, they will be on record. The police don't like to waste their time with say someone that keeps accusing people of doing things with no evidence or stuff that turns out to be untrue. They are just constantly wasting police time. I don't mean they will go to jail for it, I just mean it will be down on record that 'x' accused 'y' of 'z'. They record almost everything they are called out for etc, for things like this. There are plenty of people who report stuff all the time but turn out to be just wasting police time, that's what I meant. At a certain stage in the future the police won't believe anything those people say, or I should say more - tend to turn the other cheek.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭CaraMay


    No one said it was ok. What may be an issue is telling the police to do her for giving them drugs this time but not the last. It's hard to know how the police would take it. If it was the first time he had any dealings with her with regard drugs I would say work away but there is a,risk to the op considering their previous drugs encounter even if that was consensual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    No, they will be on record. The police don't like to waste their time with say someone that keeps accusing people of doing things with no evidence or stuff that turns out to be untrue. They are just constantly wasting police time. I don't mean they will go to jail for it, I just mean it will be down on record that 'x' accused 'y' of 'z'. They record almost everything they are called out for etc, for things like this. There are plenty of people who report stuff all the time but turn out to be just wasting police time, that's what I meant. At a certain stage in the future the police won't believe anything those people say, or I should say more - tend to turn the other cheek.

    Yes I know they will be on record. And whats wrong with that? Surely its a good thing that it would be on record that X accused Y of Z - because then if at some future point A accused Y of Z the cops will say - you know, this person was accused of drugging someone before and take it more seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 212 ✭✭theUbiq


    Let it go...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    The woman is clearly a psycho.

    If you want to do what's best for you: do nothing.

    If you want to do what's best for society: tell the police what happened. It may decrease the chance of her pulling this sort of craziness in future. But will put you on his and her ****list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    Yes I know they will be on record. And whats wrong with that? Surely its a good thing that it would be on record that X accused Y of Z - because then if at some future point A accused Y of Z the cops will say - you know, this person was accused of drugging someone before and take it more seriously?
    Yes, it will give them far more precedence because it would most likely not be a coincidence that they were accused before. But what if the same thing happened again, and x accused y of z. The exact opposite could happen and the police would not be so open and could be met with raised eyebrows. But you are right that it would be good in such a case, but that is only if it happens to y with someone else.

    Either way, the tables could be turned if y decides to accuse x of defamation without proof. That would be my main concern in such a case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Lenmeister wrote: »
    Either way, the tables could be turned if y decides to accuse x of defamation without proof. That would be my main concern in such a case.

    Defamation is a civil matter, they would face the same issue of burden of proof only in their case they would be paying a lawyer as opposed to just reporting it to a police department.

    I dont see how it would happen again, why would OP hang around with these people again? Particularly if they reported them to the police?

    Anyway, my point is, if it happened to me, it would be a hugely serious thing and I would do my best to see justice served, tell them in work, tell everyone I know who knows them etc. It would be a bigger deal than assault to me, and not something that I would be able to just stay quiet about and continue to work with the person afterwards. Perhaps to other people being drugged isnt as big a deal but it would be a very big deal in my world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    I would leave this go OP. I'd just give the guy and his loony wife a very wide berth from now on. Going to the cops will achieve nothing and it would be very hard to prove in any event. Put it down to an experience you don't want to repeat and be glad it didn't end badly. Can you say in the States where you were? If the trip lasted a long time she could have used something like peyote which funnily enough is not banned in some places but would have had you climbing the walls.

    I'd just put this down to two a$sholes you've met along the way and put it down to a bad experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Lenmeister


    'Y' would already have proof if 'X' went to the police about it. It would be down on record in the police station, on file, as 'X' accusing 'Y' of 'Z'.

    Either way, I do consider being drugged a big deal as you would, but in this case I wouldn't go to the police. As Merkin said I'd put it down to 2 idiots and a bad experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008



    I would do my best to see justice served, tell them in work, tell everyone I know who knows them etc. It would be a bigger deal than assault to me, and not something that I would be able to just stay quiet about and continue to work with the person afterwards. Perhaps to other people being drugged isnt as big a deal but it would be a very big deal in my world.

    'Justice' and the law are not always the same thing. You seriously do not seem to appreciate how scant and weak the OP's evidence is. He was happy to smoke joints with her, they were cool with hash in the brownies. He had a bad trip and thinks they were spiked. There is nothing to prove this. What is he saying to the police 'I was happy for her to give me some drugs, but I think she crossed a line and have no evidence to prove it, except a bad trip'.....can you not see how weak that is?.
    In fact in all possibility it could have been some legal hallucinogenic, there are many of them. However in the states you have to have a prescription for hash. What if she has a prescription and the OP doesn't. Can you honestly not see the pointless can of worms he will be opening, especially him on a work visa?
    I honestly don't see how you think justice will be served by him mud slinging at work and bringing an accusation to the police.
    Move on, forget about it....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    'Justice' and the law are not always the same thing. You seriously do not seem to appreciate how scant and weak the OP's evidence is. He was happy to smoke joints with her, they were cool with hash in the brownies. He had a bad trip and thinks they were spiked. There is nothing to prove this. What is he saying to the police 'I was happy for her to give me some drugs, but I think she crossed a line and have no evidence to prove it, except a bad trip'.....can you not see how weak that is?.
    In fact in all possibility it could have been some legal hallucinogenic, there are many of them. However in the states you have to have a prescription for hash. What if she has a prescription and the OP doesn't. Can you honestly not see the pointless can of worms he will be opening, especially him on a work visa?
    I honestly don't see how you think justice will be served by him mud slinging at work and bringing an accusation to the police.
    Move on, forget about it....

    Im not interested in an argument. I appreciate you feel it would acheive nothing to go to the police. To me, being drugged by someone is big deal and something I would report to the police, same as if I was assaulted, raped, mugged or any other crime for which my evidence was "weak".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    I'd like to echo this post, who knows the damage she'll do in future in she's allowed to continue drugging people.

    + 1 million on this.

    What would have happened if one of you had had a bad reaction to this, a major heart attack, or brain damage.

    I would talk to a police officer, or a liaison between the police and public and find out what the situation is if you were drugged.

    Go to a different police station and go in/or ring and ask for advice, say that a friend of yours was drugged, and you wanted some advice for what to say to them.

    Avoid your friend like the plague. And don't go near his wife ever again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Daisy M


    I would attempt to lure her into some sort of confession via facrbook/email/text or even record a voicemail. Tell her you and your wife really need to know what she used as you would like to know in case anything like this happened again and you needed treatment.

    I would have to get legal advice on this as I know at a later stage I would regret my inaction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ivytwine


    I really think the anonymous tip off to the police, as mentioned earlier on in the thread, is the way to go.

    They have a kid and they can't be taking halluncigenics (sp?) around a child. End of.

    It was a horrible experience for you and your wife but I don't think you have many legal options. But you can stop them from doing it again to someone else.

    Meanwhile, avoid, avoid, avoid!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭wallycharlo


    That's a sickening story OP, and I can imagine how terrifying it must have been for you both.

    Even if it had been hash/weed in the brownie, it still may have been an quite an ordeal, as the problem with eating it is that you have no idea how much has been put in, or what the strength is, at least when you smoking it you should know pretty much instantly.

    As for what to do next, I would also agree with the advice to chalk it down to experience and move on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    2 things that stood out to me from this story.

    1) "both of us probably realised deep down that there was hash in the brownie" - they were both somewhat aware in advance, but still proceeded to eat the brownies.
    2) I'd be willing to bet it was just hash in the brownies; not LSD or mushrooms. Eating hash has "trip" like effects, and inexperienced people would easily mistake it as such. Smoking it is a different buzz from eating it.

    I'm not saying what she did was right - I'm pointing out that the OP admitted knowing deep down about the brownies being drugged, and what was in the brownies wasn't anything he hadn't already voluntarily consumed with the hosts earlier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭wallycharlo


    ...Eating hash has "trip" like effects, and inexperienced people would easily mistake it as such. Smoking it is a different buzz from eating it...

    Agree with this, the effects once eaten of Hash can be much stronger than from when smoked.

    OP, have you eaten hashish before?

    I'm not trying to excuse this mad woman, but I think that you may need to made aware that ingesting hashish could also have the same effects, so that you know to avoid it possibly in the future!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 368 ✭✭Morph the Cat


    OP wrote:
    just sat like zombies, internally freaking out, like being on an unstoppable rollercoaster that was never goin to stop

    Sounds like a noob after eating a hash brownie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭justaskin likeyakno


    Wow, what a nut job,

    I think you should just let it go and make sure never to socialise with them again. That said, I can see why you'd like to take some kind of action as it must have been traumatising for you both, especially if you don't have much experience with drugs.

    As for work, if you want to keep everything smooth just try and get on with things but never accept so much as a coffee or lettuce leaf off him and make sure he knows why, just in case his memory evades him.

    Chalk it up to experience and only interact with these idiots when absolutely necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    So you knew you were ingesting a hash brownie?

    When consumed Marijuana can be a lot more powerful and last alot longer than when smoked. Are you sure that you consumed LSD, your description of the events is more common with cannabis than LSD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    op is it possible that your friends thought you were into drugs? if you take lsd without having any experience of it it can be terrifying especially in 'unwelcome' circustamnces eg your male frriend trying to get rid of would have made tthings worse. really your friends should have tried to chill youse out howeever that doesnt escuse them in the first place. however if you had taken it before then it wouldnt have effectedd you that much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Cunning Stunt


    kjl wrote: »
    So you knew you were ingesting a hash brownie?

    When consumed Marijuana can be a lot more powerful and last alot longer than when smoked. Are you sure that you consumed LSD, your description of the events is more common with cannabis than LSD.

    I was also wondering this - OP, you say she spiked the pizza with 'either magic mushrooms or LSD' - do you know this for a fact? It could be that the effects you described were from the hash brownies, and in that case, you don't have a comeback as you did willingly eat them.


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