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Stud for a 14.2h Connemara

  • 20-04-2013 6:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭


    Any recommendation for a stud (Munster Area) for an 11 year old 14.2h Mare. Shes not registered purebred Connemara but shes definitely one.
    Anyway since shes a good jumper would it be madness crossing her with a thoroughbred racehorse?
    Also I seen a Stallion advertised local to me but he`s nearly 16h would he have a foal too big for my mare??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    Before you consider any Stallion you have to ask yourself.

    1) why am I breeding this mare. ie is she good enough.
    Because if you are going to sell the foal people will want to want it for it to pay you.
    If your going to keep it for 3/4 years to train on and sell it still has to make enough to pay you.

    2) What do I want to breed. Jumping Pony/ Eventing Pony

    15.2 IPS /pony club/riding club that can be ridden by smaller adult.
    Hoping for something that will possibly hit 16H +.

    All of these would effect what you would be looking at in a Stallion's size/ type/breed etc. And hopefully narrow your search

    There are stories about foals being to big for mares but there are x by100 times more small mares covered by stallions that are bigger than them who don't have foaling problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Unless you have lots of money don't bother breedin from her
    You didn't mention the reason but there is no money what so ever in yearling s two or three year olds
    Have a scout through any of the horses for sale website s and there are plenty of nice pony s and cobs for sale

    Even to Get a horse registered and passport up to date is a couple hundred euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭RaggyDays


    I`m not bothered if the foal wouldn`t be worth much, my point in asking was this..
    if She has a good jump and I cross her with a thoroughbred racehorse would I get a competitive foal???

    Also what's the biggest Stallion I could use on her??

    (She had a foal before unknown breeding but I got good money for him. The Mare herself has loads of milk and made a good job of him)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    A Connemara x TB foal has a much a chance as any other if the TB is breeding good stock.
    Stallion size will not matter, the bigger you go the the more chance you have of breeding something with the genes to grow bigger with good feeding etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    RaggyDays wrote: »
    I`m not bothered if the foal wouldn`t be worth much, my point in asking was this..
    if She has a good jump and I cross her with a thoroughbred racehorse would I get a competitive foal???

    Also what's the biggest Stallion I could use on her??

    (She had a foal before unknown breeding but I got good money for him. The Mare herself has loads of milk and made a good job of him)


    Depends on the training she will get to to be honest to see if she is competitive
    You could cross her with a TB eventing stallion either

    What level do you envisage the horse competing at ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭RaggyDays


    monflat wrote: »
    Depends on the training she will get to to be honest to see if she is competitive
    You could cross her with a TB eventing stallion either

    What level do you envisage the horse competing at ?

    I don't know how the answer to that. If I spent €4000 at Coolmore for a stud would it be a complete waste of money? I see local thoroughbred stallions on Donedeal for a fraction of that but again they might only breed rubbish too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    You really need to do a lot of research into pedigree before taking the pluge and sending your mare to stud.

    You need to look back at her family on both sides - How did they perform in competition? What did they do? Were there any conformation problems or health issues? What height were they? Are there any progeny from brothers and sisters? How are they doing? etc., etc., etc.

    You need to do the same for the sire's side - look at what he did, how his family performed (i.e. is he the only one who did well), and how his progeny are performing currently?

    Then you need to think about what you want from the foal - do you want to sell or compete for yourself? What do you want to do?

    I would also avoid putting her in foal to a 'big' stallion as it could possibly cause complications during foaling, especially as she's a small mare. A TB stallion could work, but again, that will take loads of research to find the right one.

    Definitely not something to be rushed into, and it would be better to wait an extra year and find the right stallion, rather than trying to cut corners and ending up with something not quite right this time next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    RaggyDays wrote: »
    I don't know how the answer to that. If I spent €4000 at Coolmore for a stud would it be a complete waste of money? I see local thoroughbred stallions on Donedeal for a fraction of that but again they might only breed rubbish too


    i know a fella i know who had a mare who had competed a bit at 90 cm sjai and he wanted to put her in foal

    there was a man local with stallions and had a grade a showjumper
    the fella wanted to put his mare to this stallion however the stallion owner would not allow it as he basically said the mare is not good enough

    he obviously did not want meodicre mares which give birth to foals who would have this Grade a stallion name on their passport but may not necessarily reach the same level as the sire

    he was choosy about who went to that stallion

    not sure if this is common but a lot of buyers are now looking at the dam s performance pedigree too and examining both temperments and performanaces and trainability of both parents

    take your mare to someone who schools horses professionally and get an opinion of what they think of her ability and trainability before you committ to anything

    otherwise if you have loads of cash buy a mare with a performance pedigree and put her in foal


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