Vat and import duty

ben36

Hi,there is 15 family and friends vaping at the moment and we decided to import a few months supply of liquids directly from Hangsen as we all love their juices.The bill has come to $950 including shipping and is on its way with DHL.

I know we have to pay vat @23% and custom charges but looking at the revenue website and my first time buying anything outside the EU i'm lost at what sort of bill we will receive next week.Has anyone any idea how much it should come to?

Drachnien

Ifi t's coming via DHL then you'll definitely get hit.

at Minimum it'll be the 23% plus DHL's fee for dealing with customs (it was about €20) on top of this depending on what category they decide the liquids fit into you will have to pay import duties. problem with this part is it's up to the guy in customs to decide and can vary widely. anything from 0% up to an extra 50% .... if the import dury does apply then the 23% vat is applied AFTER to the new total.

ben36

Yeah the import duty is the one i'm having trouble finding out about.It's declared as essence oil

richardw001

http://www.dutycalculator.com/popular-import-items/import-duty-and-taxes-for-e-liquid/

not sure how accurate it is for eliquid - however it should give you some idea

Drachnien

as far as i know essential oils are a 0% item but if they realize what it really is then there could be issues with the misclassification (e.g. sending it back, charging you the full amount)
short version is your not really gonna know till dhl arrive with a bill

ben36

Thanks for the advice.Looks like i'll just wait and see what happens

premierstone

ben36 wrote: »

Hi,there is 15 family and friends vaping at the moment and we decided to import a few months supply of liquids directly from Hangsen as we all love their juices.The bill has come to $950 including shipping and is on its way with DHL.

I know we have to pay vat @23% and custom charges but looking at the revenue website and my first time buying anything outside the EU i'm lost at what sort of bill we will receive next week.Has anyone any idea how much it should come to?

It will really depend on what DHL have declared it as, the actual Cusoms Import Duty on manufactured tobacco substitutes and essences is 74.9% :eek:

Your total bill in that case would be in excess of €2k - but I wouldnt worry DHL will have lied and customs are understaffed and incompetent and it wont be detected, however if you start getting these delivery's regularly chances are it will be.

richardw001

just out of curiosity - do you mind me asking how many litres of the stuff did you get for 950 dollars ?
hangsen is dirt cheap here in Ireland already - I'm thinking pallet size ?!

ben36

premierstone wrote: »

It will really depend on what DHL have declared it as, the actual Cusoms Import Duty on manufactured tobacco substitutes and essences is 74.9% :eek:

Your total bill in that case would be in excess of €2k - but I wouldnt worry DHL will have lied and customs are understaffed and incompetent and it wont be detected, however if you start getting these delivery's regularly chances are it will be.

Holy Jaysus.I think it's time i started into looking in to diy.

ben36

richardw001 wrote: »

just out of curiosity - do you mind me asking how many litres of the stuff did you get for 950 dollars ?
hangsen is dirt cheap here in Ireland already - I'm thinking pallet size ?!

No bother.We got 160 100 ml bottles.

Drachnien

......... 16 ....... liters .... o_0

artyeva

Drachnien wrote: »

......... 16 ....... liters .... o_0

it looks like a lot but if you vape an average of 4 ml a day that's only around 8 months though, not accounting for spillages/leakages. at 6ml a day it's around 5 months.

grindle

16,000ml / 6ml = 2,666 days and 16 hours.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

divided by 16 people....

ben36

Yeah there is 16 of us altogether so should get in or around 6 months each from it.it was my idea to do it as it was falling on me to order the liquids for my family and a couple of the friends as they are clueless when ordering stuff online and with the place I was ordering from out of stock half the time this seems the best solution for a few months peace

grindle

Equals "piss off Digby!".

Dammit! If it weren't for you pesky kids... *fist shake*

artyeva

yeah i'd already divided by the 16 people there grinds. so less 'a yer sarcastic 'thanks' thinkin' i can't do sums

grindle

Eh, that's a sincere thanks actually. I'm a gracious loser.

Or as mandferguson would call me, a loser.

ben36

Just to follow up.Order arrived this morning and got no charge at allIs that it or can i expect a bill later on in the week?

richardw001

ben36 wrote: »

Just to follow up.Order arrived this morning and got no charge at allIs that it or can i expect a bill later on in the week?

From what I gather - if there's a charge they hold onto the stuff until you pay!

Vaperus

Sometimes you can get a follow up bill
An Post will want paying before delivery
Couriers can go either way, usually payment on delivery though

grindle

Yup, I bought a keyboard a LONG time ago and three weeks later came my VAT bill for €120-ish quid. Flippin' flipheads.

goz83

Hopefully you got away with it.

was.deevey

I used to order quite a few Swords from china, never ever got charged Import Duty on them.... Posted through EMS in china, delivered by An Post

If it goes through DHL or Fedex you are screwed though.

Mr. Chrome

Yeah, Ive heard of people getting bills from dhl weeks after recieving the product, but what happens if you dont pay the vat bill?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you dont get anything delivered by dhl again

goz83

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Yeah, Ive heard of people getting bills from dhl weeks after recieving the product, but what happens if you dont pay the vat bill?

They poo on your doorstep

platinums

goz83 wrote: »

They poo on your doorstep

probably feed your cat aspirin too.