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Garda Commisioner now admits he had penalty points wiped out

  • 18-04-2013 11:47PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭


    Even the garda commisioner has had penalty points wiped out,as he claims he was on official duty.

    He was caught back in 2007 while he was driving his own car through Finglas at 83kph in a 60kph zone.

    Yet he got them wiped off his record.

    Story is on the front of tomorrows Irish Independent newspaper






    Beggars belief at this stage with this carry on.

    Whos next then,Enda Kenny...or Saint Bono perhaps?????:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Even the garda commisioner has had penalty points wiped out,as he claims he was on official duty.


    Beggars belief at this stage with this carry on.

    Whos next then,Enda Kenny...or Saint Bono perhaps?????:pac:
    Link?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I don't understand why people keep making threads about this

    We know a lot of people had their penalty points erased, from average Joe to maybe senior politicians. The guards did it for their friends and not for money. They were disciplined. What do you want? criminal charges?

    We know about it now and it won't happen again, that's the important bit. Let's just move on now?
    paddy147 wrote: »
    Even the garda commisioner has had penalty points wiped out,as he claims he was on official duty.

    He was caught back in 2007 while he was driving his own car through Finglas at 83kph in a 60kph zone.
    :

    In fairness, that's nothing compared to what some ejits do on Finglas Road


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Link?


    Answer is in edited post above.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    We know about it now and it won't happen again

    Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people keep making threads about this

    We know a lot of people had their penalty points erased, from average Joe to maybe senior politicians. The guards did it for their friends and not for money. They were disciplined. What do you want? criminal charges?

    We know about it now and it won't happen again, that's the important bit. Let's just move on now?



    In fairness, that's nothing compared to what some ejits do on Finglas Road

    I for one am very interested when those who "uphold the law" are just petty crooks when it comes right down to it. This guy should be fired, to prove, if nothing else that there is at some integrity left in this cesspool.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    Who owned the car is irrelevant. It's the purpose of the trip that matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Fair f*cks to the guy, I'd have done the same ~ as would a lot of people here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147




    "it is thought that he was traveling to an important security meeting at the time".


    What a feable load of absolute horseshyte and a cop out (excuse the pun) from the commisioner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    paddy147 wrote: »
    "it is thought that he was traveling to an important security meeting at the time".


    What a feable load of absolute horseshyte and a cop out from the commisioner (excuse the pun).:rolleyes:

    How do you know its horsesh*te and a cop out?.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people keep making threads about this

    We know a lot of people had their penalty points erased, from average Joe to maybe senior politicians. The guards did it for their friends and not for money. They were disciplined. What do you want? criminal charges?

    We know about it now and it won't happen again, that's the important bit. Let's just move on now?



    In fairness, that's nothing compared to what some ejits do on Finglas Road

    Yes I do,
    There is no justification for what they have been doing. Their job is to enforce the law not make it up as they go along and it is not at their discretion to allow their friends get away with anything. He should be leading by example, A good example not by saying corruption is ok. They are an embarrassment to the country and what is the actual good law abiding garda going to do when he experiences corruption in his station? what should he do report it to the other openly corrupt high ranking members i would be afraid to if it were me for fear that they would try and brush it under the carpet and i am sure it would get back to whoever it was about and then life would be very difficult. The courts should make an example of them, any corruption from someone in a job like that should receive a longer sentence for abuse of power and instilling distrust in the community.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    How do you know its horsesh*te and a cop out?.


    Because we cant have the head of the police actualy being done for speeding and getting penalty points now can we????

    Especially when hes allways there on the TV talking on and on about garda speed checks/speed camera vans and speeding motorists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    SB2013 wrote: »
    Who owned the car is irrelevant. It's the purpose of the trip that matters.

    The gardai are not above the law if he was late for a meeting that is his own fault if he was not on his way to an emergency then he dose not have the right to endanger other road users.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    juice1304 wrote: »
    The gardai are not above the law if he was late for a meeting that is his own fault if he was not on his way to an emergency then he dose not have the right to endanger other road users.


    "better get back to the station fast,before me cuppa tea and me cheeseburger gets cold"....:pac::pac::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Because we cant have the head of the police actualy being done for speeding and getting penalty points now can we????

    Especially when hes allways there on the TV talking on and on about garda speed checks/speed camera vans and speeding motorists.

    He's a very important man, I doubt he was just swanning around Finglas checking out Jacinta's PJ's and Anto's new horse.

    I'd have no problem with the guy giving it the welly and being excused of his points if he was on important Garda business & serving our communities.

    But sure you have your hissy fit anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    paddy147 wrote: »
    "it is thought that he was traveling to an important security meeting at the time".

    .

    If he had been responding to an emergency then he'd have my absolute support, however if this is true then he hasn't a leg to stand on. Basically he was late for a meeting so he was speeding, and then used his position to get the points dropped.

    Sorry Mak, i usually agree with you, but In any civilised society when a person in a position of influence is caught out this way their position is untenable and they resign fairly quickly. I'll be interested to see if that happens here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Official business............. That bat signals not going to light itself......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    tritium wrote: »
    If he had been responding to an emergency then he'd have my absolute support, however if this is true then he hasn't a leg to stand on. Basically he was late for a meeting so he was speeding, and then used his position to get the points dropped.

    Sorry Mak, i usually agree with you, but In any civilised society when a person in a position of influence is caught out this way their position is untenable and they resign fairly quickly. I'll be interested to see if that happens here

    Thanks :)

    However no one knows the importance of the commissioners meeting, and we can't just assume a position of judgement over the Garda commissioner and say the meeting he'd to attend wasn't in the countries best interest 'nor indeed what made him late for that meeting.

    If the news broke that the commissioner had requisitioned an army or garda helicopter as considerable expense to us sure we'd have someone else with their knickers in a twist over that!.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    He's a very important man, I doubt he was just swanning around Finglas checking out Jacinta's PJ's and Anto's new horse.

    I'd have no problem with the guy giving it the welly and being excused of his points if he was on important Garda business & serving our communities.

    But sure you have your hissy fit anyway.

    It makes a mockery of the speeding laws and even the advertisements that they've just rolled out.

    What if he hit someone or is that not possible because he has a invincibility cloak around his car because he's high up in the force.

    The Gardai are not above the laws that they enforce. If it wasn't an emergency that caused him to speed then I hope he gets hammered for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Fair f*cks to the guy, I'd have done the same ~ as would a lot of people here.

    now, now, don't you know everyone here is an upstanding member of the community!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    Jesus, how does a Garda react when he pulls over the god damn commissioner of the force? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    now, now, don't you know everyone here is an upstanding member of the community!!

    Yup, the equestrian community on their high horses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    He's a very important man, I doubt he was just swanning around Finglas checking out Jacinta's PJ's and Anto's new horse.

    I'd have no problem with the guy giving it the welly and being excused of his points if he was on important Garda business & serving our communities.

    But sure you have your hissy fit anyway.

    You are doing a good job of trying to defend a man who tells people via their TVs that there is no excuse for speeding,and to slow down and to make time for their journey.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Jesus, how does a Garda react when he pulls over the god damn commissioner of the force? :pac:


    "Do you know the speed limit on this road and what speed you were doing"??

    "Is this your vehicle??"

    "Can I see your licence please"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    paddy147 wrote: »
    You are doing a good job of trying to defend a man who tells people via their TVs that there is no excuse for speeding,and to slow down and to make time for their journey.

    Ohhhhh bold font now, you really do have those knickers in a twist!..

    I'm away ta' bed, goodnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Thanks :)

    However no one knows the importance of the commissioners meeting, and we can't just assume a position of judgement over the Garda commissioner and say the meeting he'd to attend wasn't in the countries best interest 'nor indeed what made him late for that meeting.

    If the news broke that the commissioner had requisitioned an army or garda helicopter as considerable expense to us sure we'd have someone else with their knickers in a twist over that!.

    It may well have been an important meeting, in the countries best interests. It would doubtless have been embarrassing if he had been late- given he was stopped and was probably late as a result I'm sure it actually was embarrassing, though I've heard no reports that anyone died as a result of something he missed in the first ten minutes. However it was in no sense an emergency and using the cloak of official business after the fact was wrong- notwithstanding that it may have been common practice at the time.

    There are many upsides to a role like that but the downside is you accept a greater level of probity than applies the the average man or woman. If this report istrue then his position is simply untenable if the office he holds is to retain it's dignity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    He's a very important man, I doubt he was just swanning around Finglas checking out Jacinta's PJ's and Anto's new horse.

    I'd have no problem with the guy giving it the welly and being excused of his points if he was on important Garda business & serving our communities.

    But sure you have your hissy fit anyway.

    Very important indeed..:D actually so important that the Irish taxpayer pays him more the the USA pays their president Barack Obama.!! incredible.

    He should be sacked, immediately. how can a guy like this propose to uphold the law.:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Ohhhhh bold font now, you really do have those knickers in a twist!..

    I'm away ta' bed, goodnight.


    Just making you aware of what this men tells everybody else about use of public roads,speeding and safety on the roads,thats all.

    Night night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    He investigated himself, what has Shatter got to say about this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    washman3 wrote: »
    Very important indeed..:D actually so important that the Irish taxpayer pays him more the the USA pays their president Barack Obama.!! incredible.

    He should be sacked, immediately. how can a guy like this propose to uphold the law.:mad:

    simply because ... theres a lot more than him who have done it .... how long before we get the "it was common place at the time but procedures have changed to prevent this kind of thing from happening again"

    I do agree with you that he should be sacked but how many others would have to follow him out the door ? how many gardai used/abused the system, how many reporters/journalists/friends/family of gardai, how many celebrities ....
    how far back in history do you go in order to correct the whole thing ? ...to the introduction of penalty points ? will points be retrospectively added and then subsequently taken off given that they should have been added at a period when the driver may have already been on 10points and should have been banned ??

    The system is a joke and always has been, its impractical without some level of abuse - in times of old (pre-penalty points) it was always those who were friendly with the local sergeant who got off fines etc....its rife in this country and always has been.


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