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SPHE

  • 18-04-2013 5:00pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭


    Our Principal asked each staff member what they were qualified to teach.As a teacher of SPHE i`m wondering if a colleague may nab it off me because he told principal it was `one of the subjects he was qualified to teach' because he studied social policy in college.I had assumed there was no definitive qualification for the teaching of SPHE.I did sociology as one of my 4 subjects in 1st year ARTS.Should I mention this?Any answers would be appreciated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thefasteriwalk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Chris68


    I did my hdip in 07/08. Before starting the course everyone advised signing up for CSPE/SPHE extra modules so that I could teach them after qualifying. However, the college (Trinity) wouldn't allow anyone to sign up that didn't have a relevant degree - normally in sociology - and prior approval from the teaching council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭RH149


    In our school both SPHE and CSPE are fillers on the timetable. If your other classes add up to 21.hrs 20mins....the last 40 mins will be either SPHE or CSPE or a Resource class.

    Some teachers have done loads of SPHE related courses and they might be considered more 'into SPHE' and often have more than one SPHE class but lots of other teachers have it who have never done any SPHE courses outside of the Dip.

    Make sure to tell your principal about all your extra subjects and interests -TY modules could arise out of one of your hobbies even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Our Principal asked each staff member what they were qualified to teach.As a teacher of SPHE i`m wondering if a colleague may nab it off me because he told principal it was `one of the subjects he was qualified to teach' because he studied social policy in college.I had assumed there was no definitive qualification for the teaching of SPHE.I did sociology as one of my 4 subjects in 1st year ARTS.Should I mention this?Any answers would be appreciated

    It's not so much nabbing your hours. If they are there longer than you and are permanent their timetable needs to be filled first. Also if they are qualified in SPHE then the principal is entitled to put it on their timetable. It's not yours exclusively.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭6am7f9zxrsjvnb


    It's not so much nabbing your hours. If they are there longer than you and are permanent their timetable needs to be filled first. Also if they are qualified in SPHE then the principal is entitled to put it on their timetable. It's not yours exclusively.
    'Also if they are qualified in SPHE' ..I just wanted to know how one became qualified in SPHE.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    'Also if they are qualified in SPHE' ..I just wanted to know how one became qualified in SPHE.

    Well have a look at the list of degree subjects on the teaching council website. There are plenty there that qualify teachers to teach SPHE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Jojoteach


    Have you done any of the Inservice ?.. If you're inspected that's what they will look at .... That is what your principal should be taking into account.
    The department don't see it as a filler and will recommend that a trained team of teachers teach SPHE not randomly assigned ones.
    So the more training the more claim on the hours you have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Jojoteach wrote: »
    Have you done any of the Inservice ?.. If you're inspected that's what they will look at .... That is what your principal should be taking into account.
    The department don't see it as a filler and will recommend that a trained team of teachers teach SPHE not randomly assigned ones.
    So the more training the more claim on the hours you have.

    Inservice does not give anyone a claim on hours. If you are qualified to teach a subject and registered with the Teaching Council that is all you need. Everything else is a bonus. I am qualified in Biology but have never taught it since leaving college. If the principal chooses to put it on my timetable next year the other biology teachers can't come along and say they are more entitled, I'm equally qualified to teach it.

    If that was the case job offers would be based on inservice training and not on degree qualifications.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Jojoteach


    The original post stated that sociology was part of their degree .... So inservice being additional to it makes them more qualified.
    I've been inspected in sphe and the inspectors concern was that I had done the inservice( they would have access to my teaching qualifications through the principal )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Actually SPHE does appear to be the exception to the rule. The TC do not have any degrees listed as qualification to teach SPHE. Sociology qualifies you for CSPE not SPHE.

    I have spoken to them about this and to my local SPHE coordinator and to the subject inspector during a recent inspection. They all said that there is no formal qualification but that you are supposed to complete 40 hours inservice.

    On my phone right now so can't link but if you google SPHE qualification hou will find several documents discussing this.

    Edited to add that the TC do list the Diploma in SPHE as suitable but they also say "or suitable equivalent". When I spoke to both them and the inspector they said 40 hours inservice was equivalent. I wouldn't bank on the TC officially registering you on the basis of inservice but inservice is what the inspectors are looking for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭solerina


    I did the Junior 2 day SPHE inservice 2 years ago and at the end of it we were given a cert and told that the cert qualified us to teach SPHE...we asked about TC registration and were told, no you just need this cert as no formal qualifications are recognised. There are 5/6 people teaching SPHE in my school and all have just done this SLSS course.


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