John Lonergan's Circus (also called "John Lonergan is a Clown" in some regions)

JonathanAnon

Just about to start.. I have my juggling balls at the ready.. Is he going to show us how his soft soap plamás and relaxed attitude to substance abuse helps with your work on the trapeze?

DarkJager

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Just about to start.. I have my juggling balls at the ready.. Is he going to show us how his soft soap plamás and relaxed attitude to substance abuse helps with your work on the trapeze?

I'd rather juggle my own balls than watch this ****. Saw the advert for it earlier and wondered it I could pitch something equally inane and uninteresting to Rte for some cash.

SEPT 23 1989

They are running rings around him already:rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

Blue tracksuit Eddie:eek:

JonathanAnon

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Blue tracksuit Eddie:eek:

Well it is a circus, like.. :P

SEPT 23 1989

Do you laugh or cry?

sarkozy

It's good. Some real stories of real kids not normally given a chance to tell their stories in a sympathetic way.

JonathanAnon

Lonergan reminds me of Father Dougal when the nuns came to stay..

SEPT 23 1989

Tracksuit Eddie is not convinced to channel his anger through the medium of dance

JonathanAnon

I'm not sure if Paul has the dexterity and balance to make the tea..

Busted Flat.

RTE, try to reinvent people they put on a pedestal. What ever happened to the guy called Bates that used to run the lottery, like Lonergan, bates was on the the PK show and several other shows discussing his book collection, and his favorite films. Maybe RTE could step outside the closeted cherished people, they put on a pedestal and try and come into the real world. Maybe then they could be considered an unbiased broadcaster.

SEPT 23 1989

Well that just confirms my worst fears about Lonergan and his limp wristed approach to law and order in this country

RayM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

What ever happened to the guy called Bates that used to run the lottery, like Lonergan, bates was on the the PK show and several other shows discussing his book collection, and his favorite films.

When he ran the National Lottery, he was criticised for amusingly describing Winning Streak contestants as "a bunch of stiffs from the country".

PhilipM1981

These little cretins were disgusting. One of them lived in a house with 10 siblings. Who has 10 kids in this day in age, 10 kids without being able to afford 1 of them.

Society is not failing these people, society does not have a chance when people are filling houses they don't ever own with 10 kids, how can society cope.

What a pointless show - embarrassing the city. Dublin is a great town - please make a show about people that contribute to Ireland, not the ones that bleed it dry.

The benefit culture is worse here than in the UK.

Busted Flat.

RayM wrote: »

When he ran the National Lottery, he was criticised for amusingly describing Winning Streak contestants as "a bunch of stiffs from the country".

Never heard that, but where did he end up, Pk as far as I know was pushing him for the VHI, I may be mistaken.

An Claidheamh

Since John Lonergan left Mountjoy, the amount of prisoners on methadone has increased. Why?, because he allowed them to sneak in heroin, (probably along with tvs, pets, mobile phones, etc).

The new governor, presumably, stopped visitors giving the inmates drugs.

So really, the man was incompetent. If he wanted to be a children's entertainer he should not have been governor of a supposedly maximum security prison!

An Claidheamh

PhilipM1981 wrote: »

These little cretins were disgusting. One of them lived in a house with 10 siblings. Who has 10 kids in this day in age, 10 kids without being able to afford 1 of them.

Society is not failing these people, society does not have a chance when people are filling houses they don't ever own with 10 kids, how can society cope.

What a pointless show - embarrassing the city. Dublin is a great town - please make a show about people that contribute to Ireland, not the ones that bleed it dry.

The benefit culture is worse here than in the UK.

It just seemed to me cliché ridden. Lazy almost.

They were playing up to the camera. They knew what people wanted to hear. If they were really damaged yoofs they would not want to be on a tv show with an aul' fella.

They kept saying things like they didn't feel apart of school, etc, That's because they weren't going to it!

Or something else, completely innocuous, that Lonergan thinks somehow explains anti-social behaviour.


(Also, anyone notice what lovely teeth the small blonde girl had? For a disadvantaged person, she can afford dental work?)

mikom

Monkey tennis is getting ever closer on RTE.

FloatingVoter

mikom wrote: »

Monkey tennis is getting ever closer on RTE.

Don't give them ideas. We want topless darts first.

SuperInfinity

Anyone watching this? It's much better than I expected, I think the idea of a circus is great for tv because it's something visual and kind of exciting. I've seen stuff a bit like this before, but not with dublin accents... and usually they are playing football or something. Already one poor girl hurt her ankle and had to go for an x-ray on it. I just hope they don't descend to trying to make it seem more "dramatic" than it is, already there have been rumblings of "they're expecting us to perform miracles". It's fascinating how these people end up in such situations in life, and their statistics vs people who live in middle or upper class homes.

I'v been watching it myself and think it is quiet good. It really opens your eyes to the circumstances some children are born into. At first wen i was watching it i was thinking to myself that the attitude of some of the kids on it is disgraceful, but after seeing the backgrounds of some of the kids it changes your opinion.

Not everyone is lucky enough to be born to good parents to steer them down the right track in life, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are under the opinion that these kids are ''scum''.

SuperInfinity

An Claidheamh wrote: »

(Also, anyone notice what lovely teeth the small blonde girl had? For a disadvantaged person, she can afford dental work?)

I noticed.

You do get the odd beauty from disadvantaged backgrounds who do a lot of the wrong things healthwise, they somehow weather it. But if they continue a bad lifestyle (diet, smoking, alcohol, drugs etc.) after adulthood they start to look old and very bad really fast, get fat etc.

SHOVELLER

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Well that just confirms my worst fears about Lonergan and his limp wristed approach to law and order in this country

Which country? The prisons in your country are on a par with here. In Ireland.

Prison in the vast majority of cases doesn't work. The governor works at the behest of the Minister of Justice. To sum up he went through 11 Ministers in his time at Mountjoy and not one ever sat down one on one with him. They didnt want to know about any of his suggestions to improve conditions.

His book is a wake up call and a must read for anyone interested in knowing the truth behind the awful decision making of a Government department.

mikehammer67

wtf could lonergan do about law and order?

he was a prison governor

kilograms

(Also, anyone notice what lovely teeth the small blonde girl had? For a disadvantaged person, she can afford dental work?)

What a sad and pathetic comment, you don't need to spend lots of money in the dentist to have nice teeth. Her teeth are clearly in better condition than your own.

I noticed.

You do get the odd beauty from disadvantaged backgrounds who do a lot of the wrong things healthwise, they somehow weather it. But if they continue a bad lifestyle (diet, smoking, alcohol, drugs etc.) after adulthood they start to look old and very bad really fast, get fat etc.

You thought of all that while watching the programme, people usually don't watch something they don't like!!

SuperInfinity

kilograms wrote: »

You thought of all that while watching the programme, people usually don't watch something they don't like!!

I never said I didn't like it, I'm the one who bumped this thread after almost a week of no activity. I think the earlier episodes with the introductions and monologues/interviews were much better than where it seems to be going though, with fighting and "messing" and "oh they're late again, those disadvantaged young people and their ways" etc. A couple of times Lonergan said something that the young people flat-out denied... possibly Lonergan was just saying it for the tv, but then these young people seem very quick to pick fights as well (possibly encouraged to by tv staff). Either way, not as good. I'll continue watching for car crash value and the small blonde girl if nothing else though.

JonathanAnon

I find it very difficult to believe that John Lonergan ran a prison ... If you sent him down to the shop for a pint of milk, some 12 year old would bully the money out of him..

madmaggie

The earnest middle-class do-gooderism really got on my nerves. Now that it's over what do those kids do next, back to life as normal?

Skid X

Here is some news about a few of the thugs who appeared on this show

Stars of Circus TV show avoid jail for attack on pregnant woman


Julie McGregor was attacked with a baseball bat by sisters, Ciara Kiernan (18) and Sabrina Archbold (25), outside her apartment minutes after she had revealed to her friends that she was pregnant.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/stars-of-circus-tv-show-avoid-jail-for-attack-on-pregnant-woman-29358067.html

So anyone going around beating pregnant women - you probably won't go to prison but John Lonergan might put you on his rotten Television programme if it is recommissioned.

SuperInfinity

Ah lads. :rolleyes: