Vodafone Fibre Optic

kleefarr

http://comingsoon.vodafone.ie/register/next-generation-broadband

Got to be worth a try if no extra cost for existing Vodafone customers.

NTC

kleefarr wrote: »

http://comingsoon.vodafone.ie/register/next-generation-broadband

Got to be worth a try if no extra cost for existing Vodafone customers.

I got the email, any idea on time frame?

Sponge Bob

20th May or maybe sooner in Swords Douglas and Ennis

homer911

I just switched from Vodafone to UPC today and then got the email.

"Up to" 70 MBs and no confirmed date.

I'm quite a distance from the nearest cabinet so I'm going to stick with confirmed speeds. Who knows what the delivered speed will be with congestion and copper between me and the cabinet..

kleefarr

Got this in follow up email after registering my interest...

"With Vodafone, next generation broadband is simple. It's our guarantee that you'll get the fastest speed your line can handle - it's broadband as it should be."

Now, recently my speeds have been spiking to 17mb/s for 30 seconds or so, but wonder why mention the land line if it's supposed to be Fibre?

Kristopherus

kleefarr wrote: »

Got this in follow up email after registering my interest...

"With Vodafone, next generation broadband is simple. It's our guarantee that you'll get the fastest speed your line can handle - it's broadband as it should be."

Now, recently my speeds have been spiking to 17mb/s for 30 seconds or so, but wonder why mention the land line if it's supposed to be Fibre?

I'd say they are referring to the Fibre To The Cabinet areas, which is the majority of the country. There is'nt a hope in hell that Eircom will have fibre-cabled to the home the rest of the country this side of 2020.:mad:

irishgeo

kleefarr wrote: »

Got this in follow up email after registering my interest...

"With Vodafone, next generation broadband is simple. It's our guarantee that you'll get the fastest speed your line can handle - it's broadband as it should be."

Now, recently my speeds have been spiking to 17mb/s for 30 seconds or so, but wonder why mention the land line if it's supposed to be Fibre?

its still a land line to your home, fibre wont be coming direct to your home i am afraid,

swoofer

@spongebob, why would places like Ennis be earlier than 20th may?

ElNino

GBCULLEN wrote: »

@spongebob, why would places like Ennis be earlier than 20th may?

The trial areas I assume.

dinneenp

I got a call about Simply Broadband today.
I live about 10 miles outside Galway, got rid of landline and went with Meteor dongle & hotspot. Cheaper but internet speed is very unreliable.
I'm thinknig of going for this deal, the fact that they install a landline for the broadband should guarantee good connection speed.

Anone know offhand what the price (€29.99 pm) is like compared to other providers?

Simi

dinneenp wrote: »

Anone know offhand what the price (€29.99 pm) is like compared to other providers?

It's the cheapest landline based broadband you're gonna get. Make sure you can actually avail of the €29.99 rate though, it's only available in certain areas.

VampiricPadraig

Heya. I received a email about this the other day (Since I am a Vodafone @ Home customer), and I just want to ask (Probably early days yet, but), will I actually be able to get it?

They did works some time ago (Nearly 2 years at this stage) where they put fibre or something down but it's about less than half a mile away from my house.

Any help would be appreciated? Thanks

aktelmiele

Everybody is going to be getting Fibre to the Cabinet which is then copper cable the rest of the way.

The only places that can get fibre to the home are from the trial which are Dundrum, Sandyford and Wexford. - check the eircom website

FTTC uses VDSL so if you can get it, you are going to be a max of 1 - 1.5 KM from the cabinet. This means you will get 10 meg or so. #fingerscrossed

This is all dependent on the quality of the line how it was installed etc.

For a lot of customers, its going to make a big difference to their connection.

A mate of mine had a pretty crappy 4 meg connection. Now has over 10 meg and loving it.

Roll out site is here

VampiricPadraig

I just checked that. Monaghan is in Phase 4 and I am about 1935m from the Monaghan 'exchange'. I don't know how much that will affect me, but hopefully I can still get decent speeds (Up and Down, especially UPload)

dinneenp

CAll me stupid but where on that site can I see the various phases?
I'm living in Lackgh, near Tourloughmore in Galway.

VampiricPadraig

dinneenp wrote: »

CAll me stupid but where on that site can I see the various phases?
I'm living in Lackgh, near Tourloughmore in Galway.

Click here and then click the "Coverage Map" on the right side of that page and it should allow you to see phases.

swoofer

your not, when you go to link look to the side and click on NGA coverage map, then you will see the phases, click on one and a menu appears etc. You will need to know your exchange as well so you may have to use big map to zoom in. just experiment it becomes clear as you click around.

i have checked for you and you are claregalway exchange and phase 5. drove that road manys the time

dinneenp

Thanks- got my hopes up when I saw Galway as Phase 2.
But I'm past Claregalway and that's Phase 5....

kleefarr

1650m from exchange. Do you think I would be able to get much more than I got with BT..12mb?

Johnboy1951

I had a look at the map showing an indication of the phases ....... and wonder about those exchanges which are not listed ..... are they ever going to be fibre-enabled or will there be more 'phases' after those listed?

Anyone know?

bealtine

homer911 wrote: »

I'm quite a distance from the nearest cabinet so I'm going to stick with confirmed speeds. Who knows what the delivered speed will be with congestion and copper between me and the cabinet..

See the attached file for details...

Just for clarification Vodafone will have nothing to do with this "fibre roll out" it's all eircom work and Voda will just be reselling it. Also it's not really a "fibre roll out" either, it's just extending the exchange facilities nearer to you from the local cabinet. A fibre rollout implies (in my mind anyway) a Fibre to the Home deployment which this most certainly not.

It's like saying Ballydehob is motorway powered because the motorway goes to Cork:)

bealtine

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I had a look at the map showing an indication of the phases ....... and wonder about those exchanges which are not listed ..... are they ever going to be fibre-enabled or will there be more 'phases' after those listed?

Anyone know?

That's the million dollar question...logically you would expect more phases just like the ADSL rollout but then eircom are nearly bankrupt so nobody knows what will happen in the near future.

crawler

Folks - Vodafone support section on baords is here if you need help with any quesitons http://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1270

Danny Boy

bealtine wrote: »

See the attached file for details...

Just for clarification Vodafone will have nothing to do with this "fibre roll out" it's all eircom work and Voda will just be reselling it. Also it's not really a "fibre roll out" either, it's just extending the exchange facilities nearer to you from the local cabinet. A fibre rollout implies (in my mind anyway) a Fibre to the Home deployment which this most certainly not.

It's like saying Ballydehob is motorway powered because the motorway goes to Cork:)

What utter rubbish. It's going to deliver 100Mbs within months to part of the population and over time to 1.2 million. You won't get anything like that percentage in large parts of the states. Some people talk through their hoops on this forum.

Praetorian

Danny Boy wrote: »

What utter rubbish. It's going to deliver 100Mbs within months to part of the population and over time to 1.2 million. You won't get anything like that percentage in large parts of the states. Some people talk through their hoops on this forum.

Danny Boy, everything he said was pretty accurate. You have not got a clue.

Danny Boy

Praetorian wrote: »

Danny Boy, everything he said was pretty accurate. You have not got a clue.

100Mbs in places like castlebar, ennis etc is way ahead of a lot of other regional locations in comparative countries, If you knew anything about it you'd know this is a robust technology that's standing up well in the trial, delivering excellent stable speeds over good distances from the cab, you're another hurler on the ditch talking through your hoop

swoofer

I have not seen one post from a trial user be it ennis etc

Danny Boy

GBCULLEN wrote: »

I have not seen one post from a trial user be it ennis etc

and so you're point is that whatever is posted here is representative of an over 400 million euro technology rollout programme? reality check time, this is a massive technology rollout that has little concern for boards.ie, it's mostly idle conjecture here that the real technologists who plan the programme ignore completely

swoofer

I have a sneaking suspicion that you may be a tiny bit disappointed when the rollout begins. Running fibre to the cabinet is not by any stretch of the imagination a massive technology rollout and 400 million is small beans. Have you any idea how far most of ireland is behind in relation to broadband.. All this work should and could have been done years ago. Then it would have been massive. This is the usual piecemeal approach.

As an aside how do you know there are real technologists involved in the roll out?

Ahh the pipes the pipes.... etc

bealtine

Danny Boy wrote: »

What utter rubbish.

How is it rubbish?

It's going to deliver 100Mbs

Really do you have a reference for that from eircom preferably a technical source and not some marketing nonsense?

Sure it's a massive improvement over current technologies but it's still a stopgap measure so it's not a massive "leap forward".
This is "old hat" technology as other countries have implemented FTTC years ago we are merely catching up.

It may deliver 100Mb/s when they implement vectoring but afaik and from reading the eircom reference manuals there's no vectoring included in this rollout yet.

Are you saying that when eircom say the max they can deliver is 70Mb/s at a distance of 300 metres that they wrong and you know better?

bloodyhawk

aktelmiele wrote: »

Everybody is going to be getting Fibre to the Cabinet which is then copper cable the rest of the way.

The only places that can get fibre to the home are from the trial which are Dundrum, Sandyford and Wexford. - check the eircom website

FTTC uses VDSL so if you can get it, you are going to be a max of 1 - 1.5 KM from the cabinet. This means you will get 10 meg or so. #fingerscrossed

This is all dependent on the quality of the line how it was installed etc.

For a lot of customers, its going to make a big difference to their connection.

A mate of mine had a pretty crappy 4 meg connection. Now has over 10 meg and loving it.

Roll out site is here

Wait a second here, isn't upc a FTTH? because i am able to get it in athlone

bealtine

bloodyhawk wrote: »

Wait a second here, isn't upc a FTTH? because i am able to get it in athlone

No it's not...it's fibre to the cabinet and it's coax to the home...
much like the eircom roll-out but coax in general has higher capacity than phone lines

joehig

if its anything like teir mobile app forget about it

Big Lar

GBCULLEN wrote: »

I have not seen one post from a trial user be it ennis etc

There probably to busy streaming Netflix to post on boards.

Richard Dower

Big Lar wrote: »

There probably to busy streaming Netflix to post on boards.

If they're from Ennis it'll most likely be porn......;)

198321

My exchange says phase 5, what does that mean?

I live in small town and im 353m from exchange based on http://www.nextgenerationnetwork.ie/ngn-access.

I'm on 24mbit/s and I'm getting something like 16, very happy with it, but will the speed increase? Or is phase 5 final?

honnaddannoh

Danny Boy - Max Speed available will be 70MB Download & 20MB Upload - If your lucky enough to live near the Cabinet .

The good thing will be the 1-1 contention ratio in comparison to UPC'S 17-1 (correct me if i am wrong).

But FTTC isn't a revolutionary technology or step forward , Its basically a long overdue cheap solution for Eircom to keep its head above water. FTTH or the ''Vectoring'' of FTTC is what im more interested in.

cgarvey

honnaddannoh wrote: »

The good thing will be the 1-1 contention ratio in comparison to UPC'S 17-1 (correct me if i am wrong).

UPC don't have a fixed contention ratio, because it's dependent on a variable loop size. For newer areas (where smaller loops have been planned), it's an effective 1-1, but for older/larger-loop areas, that can vary. "17" is just a number out of a hat type of figure!

honnaddannoh wrote: »

But FTTC isn't a revolutionary technology or step forward

That's a bit harsh. It's no FTTH, granted, but it's a big step forward for the vast majority of DSL users."big", as in an order of magnitude, not just a token increase.

Richard Dower

So no details on the Vodafone fibre packages yet?....come on!, we're 10 feckin days away!

smemon

Richard Dower wrote: »

So no details on the Vodafone fibre packages yet?....come on!, we're 10 feckin days away!

we'll probably hear on May 20th.. that's probably when all details will be launched and installations will be on a first come, first served basis..

irishgeo

the silence is deafening, eircom have ads all over the tv and radio etc, i dont see any vodafone ones?

Cantona's Collars

irishgeo wrote: »

the silence is deafening, eircom have ads all over the tv and radio etc, i dont see any vodafone ones?

I haven't heard anything since I registered my interest & got the generic reply,CS hadn't a whole lot of info only to tell me it's launching this month.

spiderman1885

Can someone define what living 'near' a cabinet is? 1km, 5km, 10km? 20km?

Nolars

spiderman1885 wrote: »

Can someone define what living 'near' a cabinet is? 1km, 5km, 10km? 20km?

up to 1km is fine after that speeds drop off rapidly.

Dylbp

Think it's possible to get any more than 300kb/s when I'm about 1km from a cabinet?

ED E

Dylbp wrote: »

Think it's possible to get any more than 300kb/s when I'm about 1km from a cabinet?

Yes. Very much so. Try 20Mb+.

dazdrog

+ the quality of the cable in the ground comes into play and ireland seams to of used a decent quality copper, my line length is around the 1000m mark and i sync at 50/15 (will be 60/20 when vectoring is enabled)

Dylbp

1km from cabinet.. Getting ping of 51ms, down of 197.1kb/s and up of 38.5kb/s. That is some major bs? God damn Vodafone.

OneEightSeven

Dylbp wrote: »

1km from cabinet.. Getting ping of 51ms, down of 197.1kb/s and up of 38.5kb/s. That is some major bs? God damn Vodafone.

Can you access your router's stats page and post a screenshot of your stats?

ED E

Dylbp wrote: »

1km from cabinet.. Getting ping of 51ms, down of 197.1kb/s and up of 38.5kb/s. That is some major bs? God damn Vodafone.

Have you actually upgraded to fibre? Its not automatic. Sounds like you're still on ADSL.

Dylbp

Nah it's on ADSL, but even then in Gorey getting <1mb/s is crazy.. I'll post stats once I'm allowed to post links