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Plastic Bottles every bloody where

  • 09-04-2013 05:03PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭


    Plastic Bottles.

    There should be a bring back refund of 5 cent added to the price of product placed in a plastic bottle introduced in this country IMO.

    I was driving on the Motorway at the weekend and pulled into a parking area only to find the place full of plastic bottle litter.

    If there was a 5 cent refunded for a plastic bottle, I would bet any money give a year there would be feck all bottles thrown around the place in ditches and the like.

    Look at places like San Francisco where there is a bring back refund and all the bag ladies and gentlemen with trolly loads of plastic bottles worth money.

    Im sick of it, absolutely sick of them, everywhere.

    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass on the side of the road, its people like her we need running the country.

    Bring it in I say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭JohnnyChimpo


    Populations of plastic bottles used to be kept in check by their natural predator, the common swan. Since the influx of Polish immigrants hungry for swan disrupted this fragile ecosystem, things have been getting out of hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    In before the other first world problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X



    Bill Cullens girlfriend ... its people like her we need running the country.

    I was with you until this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Plastic Bottles.

    There should be a bring back refund of 5 cent added to the price of product placed in a plastic bottle introduced in this country IMO.

    I was driving on the Motorway at the weekend and pulled into a parking area only to find the place full of plastic bottle litter.

    If there was a 5 cent refunded for a plastic bottle, I would bet any money give a year there would be feck all bottles thrown around the place in ditches and the like.

    Look at places like San Francisco where there is a bring back refund and all the bag ladies and gentlemen with trolly loads of plastic bottles worth money.

    Im sick of it, absolutely sick of them, everywhere.

    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass on the side of the road, its people like her we need running the country.

    Bring it in I say.

    It's a good system, I know it from Germany. Doesn't even need much effort, they have them machines in LIDL, you throw in your bottles and get a voucher in return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    It should be more than 5 cents.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom



    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass on the side of the road,

    Don't blame her.
    I'd also do anything to get out of a car containing Bill Cullen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    I don't know why they don't do that over here. They had this system when I was in Norway and it worked really well. I assume it's cheaper for the manufacturer too. The bottles were made of a heavier plastic and they always looked slightly worn. I assume the bottles just get washed and reused.

    You pretty much borrow the bottle from them with a deposit of 5c just incase you don't return it, which you get back if you do return it.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,698 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    A 5c refund on them would be an excellent idea. Would probably work out cheaper in the long run, than hiring cleaners to clean them all up!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass on the side of the road, its people like her we need running the country.

    I think we have enough people that felt like doing things and did f*ck all in the end running the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer



    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass on the side of the road, its people like her we need running the country.

    Bring it in I say.
    Yes but she never did. Actions speak louder than words ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Plastic BottlesMen.

    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass burying Bill on the side of the road, its people like her we need running the country.

    Bring it in I say.

    Now were talking...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Plastic Bottles.

    There should be a bring back refund of 5 cent added to the price of product placed in a plastic bottle introduced in this country IMO.

    I was driving on the Motorway at the weekend and pulled into a parking area only to find the place full of plastic bottle litter.

    If there was a 5 cent refunded for a plastic bottle, I would bet any money give a year there would be feck all bottles thrown around the place in ditches and the like.

    Look at places like San Francisco where there is a bring back refund and all the bag ladies and gentlemen with trolly loads of plastic bottles worth money.

    Im sick of it, absolutely sick of them, everywhere.

    You know, Bill Cullens girlfriend said on the LLS show that she often felt like getting out of the car and cutting the grass on the side of the road, its people like her we need running the country.

    Bring it in I say.

    Probably doesn't help much that there are no bins on any of the (ridiculously few) places you can actually pull over safely on the motorways.
    (not that that's an excuse to just feck them out of the car, but at least if there was somewhere to put them people might make the effort)

    There's no arguing it's gotten a lot better but the facilities on our motorway network (if you can call it that) are positively third world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭Boo2112


    I find takeaway bags and boxes the worst offenders on roads tbh. Always think its an animal too and nearly send myself flying through the windscreen in the process of trying to stop in time. Wouldn't have noticed as many bottles.


  • Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    its funny, I remember years ago, when the 'notion' as it was called to start selling bottled water. People were sceptical, as in 'who'd buy bottled water, sure the tap is full of it...'

    mad soz it is,mad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Look at places like San Francisco where there is a bring back refund and all the bag ladies and gentlemen with trolly loads of plastic bottles worth money.
    This looks like a great idea!!

    I too hate it when you go to some nice place and its littered with beer cans and plastic bottles. At least beer cans will eventually degrade as its just aluminium but plastic bottles will simply remain like that for thousands of years polluting the environment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    It should be more than 5 cents.

    25 cents in Germany, afaik


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    Some Irish people are pig ignorant ....simple as!

    Don't give tuppence about anyone or anything else, just themselves, their house, their car, their money .... its all about them!

    They come in all shapes and sizes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    In before the other first world problems.

    Littering is not a first world problem :mad: It is a masive global environmental issue. Where do you suppose the caps go?..they float. Down drains, into streams and rivers and into the Irish sea, to be carried worldwide. Many larger seabirds end up eating them.

    http://www.sott.net/article/191572-A-Plague-of-Plastic (graphic image)

    Litter affects everyone on the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    ^True. Plastic trash is one of the biggest global problem threatening the world today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    I think it's a great idea, especially if they had facilities at the supermarkets, you could just take them back when doing your shopping and get the money, I think 5c is a bit mean though 20c sounds grand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    Unfortunately the useless Minister for the Environment announced yesterday that he will continue to do nothing about the cursed plastic bottles that lay strewn the length and breath of the country. As discussed the deposit and refund system has been very successful in addressing this problem in many of the cleaned up countries that it operates in.

    I too believe, that just like the introduction of the plastic bag levy, the nation would really get behind this nasty omnipresent problem, and we could finally see a major part of our litter problem abating.

    It is up to us to try and bring this about. Don't let this incentive die.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/minister-for-environment-scraps-plans-to-introduce-packaging-levy-1.1524305


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    It's a good system, I know it from Germany. Doesn't even need much effort, they have them machines in LIDL, you throw in your bottles and get a voucher in return.

    What tends to happen as well is you have homeless people who go around collecting bottles in order to get the refund. It saves you having to go to a recycling centre and it keeps the streets clean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I don't know why they don't do that over here.
    Because there's no profit in it for the government. They operate like a corporation only interested in profit for the state, if this was a 5c tax on bottles they'd be all over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Because there's no profit in it for the government. They operate like a corporation only interested in profit for the state, if this was a 5c tax on bottles they'd be all over it.

    Don't think too many people would get up in arms if they lobbed a mere 5c on to a bottle of coke or lucozade or whatever. It would surely be a win win situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Was in Bali this time last year, you have never seen anything like it in terms of plastic pollution. Sad, sickening and depressing in parts. Beautiful country blighted by plastic bottles and bags....and in parts Australian knackers.....but that's another story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,788 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Chinasea wrote: »
    Don't think too many people would get up in arms if they lobbed a mere 5c on to a bottle of coke or lucozade or whatever. It would surely be a win win situation.
    I was saying that it was a bad thing. The tax would just be more revenue for the government, that tax would disappear down a black hole and we'd be stuck with the same problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Was at a festival in Denmark where they have 5 cents or summat for cans.
    Once you were finished with a can some beggar would practically rip the empty tin out of your hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    In before the other first world problems.
    Except this is a real problem effecting everybody and the natural world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    I even saw an empty Luzocade bottle wedged into one of the stones near the burial tomb in Newgrange.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    In Sweden they have a pant(pledge) system,there's a little bar code on the side of cans and small bottles of 1sKr-about 12 cents,and 2 sKr on the litre+ bottles. You refund them at machines at your local shop.If you don't feel for carrying home a can or bottle,the gentlemen of the street won't be long in recycling your bottle,very pro-active.

    Looking through the IT piece with phil hogan,it does not make sense,none.This is not some pilot scheme,it is tried and trusted and works a charm in much of Europe,therefore I must only conclude that the minister is just un-motivated,disinterested,myopic and idiotic.

    The people in Ireland NEED to insist on this system being brought in.


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