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Palmerstown House

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Good work Pistolpetes11, you got Luttrelstown or Killeen Castle by any chance?

    Played Killeen a few weeks ago and forgot to do it , Il try to route out the Luttrelstown one later on,

    The City west was in a 4 ball in a society of not so regular golfers !

    The usual up there is 3-3.5 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Ben1977


    Pete you actually walked 2.5km more on PH and the Heritage compared to city west. That's actually a 1/4 of the total distance walk in city west. That's a huge difference.

    Is that down to distances between tees and greens or just down to the length of course?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭sydneybound


    Don't know what you lads think but I don't want to be on the course much more than 4 hours, ok on medal days it might stretch to 4:30 but that's it. 5 hours is far too long.

    Maybe if your playing St. Andrews and want to stop and take lots of photos, 5 might be acceptable! For that reason I'd prefer to join a course which I know I can get round in a decent hour bearing in mind you'll be out there most weekends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭kkelliher


    Ben1977 wrote: »
    Pete you actually walked 2.5km more on PH and the Heritage compared to city west. That's actually a 1/4 of the total distance walk in city west. That's a huge difference.

    Is that down to distances between tees and greens or just down to the length of course?

    Or was he playing % golf !!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    where of how do you get the best deal on booking a round at palmertown house gc ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭kkelliher


    levitronix wrote: »
    where of how do you get the best deal on booking a round at palmertown house gc ?

    Ring graham in the pro shop otherwise golfnow.ie have the slots but it will be changing over to an online booking system brs or similar shortly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭TheRoomWrecker


    kkelliher wrote: »
    Ring graham in the pro shop otherwise golfnow.ie have the slots but it will be changing over to an online booking system brs or similar shortly
    Im booked in at 10.10 in the morning, if anybody wants to join me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    So Palmerstown House is a monster. Thanks Pete. See no matter what tee you play you have to walk to them . 12.5 km is over a 1/4 of a marathon. (Lol)

    Love going to the crazy celtic tiger courses for a day trip.

    But, my day to day golf is 330. and 3 hrs alone.

    The big idea , bunch of courses around that time were of the time. The Architect here is very good on this .

    A great place if you have the day or nothing to get back to. But a 9 in and out in 1hr45min is what I want.

    This is due to my own needs, golf in my opinion is too long as it was, an extra hour is 25 % more on what was already too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Don't know what you lads think but I don't want to be on the course much more than 4 hours, ok on medal days it might stretch to 4:30 but that's it. 5 hours is far too long.

    Maybe if your playing St. Andrews and want to stop and take lots of photos, 5 might be acceptable! For that reason I'd prefer to join a course which I know I can get round in a decent hour bearing in mind you'll be out there most weekends.

    Unfortunately there are people out there able to turn any course into a 4 1/2 experience or worse. That said, Palmerstown is a big property (the course is almost a mile longer than Citywest if I did my sums right) and as someone said, you have to walk it all, even if off the forward tees.

    Five hours is ridiculous anywhere; slow play is killing the game but clubs are reluctant to really crack down on it, I suppose for fear of losing people in these competitive and mobile times.

    Hopefully a club a Palmerstown will comprise people willing (and able) to handle the physical demands. It isn't likely to attract too many real "casuals". But there is a difference between bad golf and slow play, no matter how tough the course.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Ben1977 wrote: »
    Pete you actually walked 2.5km more on PH and the Heritage compared to city west. That's actually a 1/4 of the total distance walk in city west. That's a huge difference.

    Is that down to distances between tees and greens or just down to the length of course?

    Distances between tee's , although Citywest is quite tight in that respect so not really good for a like to like comparison


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Distances between tee's , although Citywest is quite tight in that respect so not really good for a like to like comparison

    The forward tees are a cumulative thousand yards from the back tees so that is most of it - not long walks from the previous green. If you are ready to play off the tips, you will have a much shorter walk to the next tee!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    First Up wrote: »
    The forward tees are a cumulative thousand yards from the back tees so that is most of it - not long walks from the previous green. If you are ready to play off the tips, you will have a much shorter walk to the next tee!

    wouldn't you typically walk past the back tees to get to the forward ones anyway?
    especially on a course that has walks between green and next tee?

    So your total walked is the same irrespective of which tees you play off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,138 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    GreeBo wrote: »
    wouldn't you typically walk past the back tees to get to the forward ones anyway?
    especially on a course that has walks between green and next tee?

    So your total walked is the same irrespective of which tees you play off.

    Not on most courses I've played.
    If you're not playing the blues at mine you don't have to walk past more than half the blue tees (you can go direct to a shorter tee)

    In PH, I'm almost certain you have to walk past every back tee.
    (Slight doubt about the walk from the 10th green to 11th tees... I think that can be shortcutted... New word)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    GreeBo wrote: »
    wouldn't you typically walk past the back tees to get to the forward ones anyway?
    especially on a course that has walks between green and next tee?

    So your total walked is the same irrespective of which tees you play off.

    Yes, I was just addressing the complaints about long walks from green to tee!
    I thought I had already acknowledged that you have to walk the whole course, and it is a big property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    First Up wrote: »
    Yes, I was just addressing the complaints about long walks from green to tee!
    I thought I had already acknowledged that you have to walk the whole course, and it is a big property.

    First up.

    It is not a course for a quick round is it ?

    We have the time, the distance.

    In Ireland we lost the run of ourselves with courses like this. Fair enough a couple of single figure lads who can walk fast and are able as you say , could fly around. But a real niche.

    As others have said , join if it suits dont if it doesn't.

    But, there is a debate about slow golf going on, not just on boards, the R&A, PGA , Todays Golfer.

    There is a certain design of course that causes slow play. The Heritage, PH and a couple of other are in that bracket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    First up.

    It is not a course for a quick round is it ?

    We have the time, the distance.

    In Ireland we lost the run of ourselves with courses like this. Fair enough a couple of single figure lads who can walk fast and are able as you say , could fly around. But a real niche.

    As others have said , join if it suits dont if it doesn't.

    But, there is a debate about slow golf going on, not just on boards, the R&A, PGA , Todays Golfer.

    There is a certain design of course that causes slow play. The Heritage, PH and a couple of other are in that bracket.

    I don't think anyone has suggested PH is somewhere for a "quick" round and for sure it will take longer than a place a thousand yards shorter. It is in the category of serious, full-length tracks and there is nothing whatever wrong with that. Casual hackers take note. If a "quick" round is your priority - try Leapardstown.

    However that still does not mean it needs 5 hours and in my experience, it doesn't. Slow play is predominantly a function of the players, not the course. Personally I would be happier to spend 4 1/2 hours playing and moving than spending a good chunk of the time watching the group ahead farting around on some shorter and less interesting course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Knightofcydonia


    I played Palmerstown house last Saturday. Played from the silver tee positions so I guess these were the society or visitors positions.

    It was only a two ball and we were first out, tee'd off at 8 and back in the pro shop at 11.10. Obviously not held up at all so flew around, certainly longer than my own course but I can't help but think some are exaggerating the length a bit. As I mentioned we didn't play from comp tee's so that would add length and time, how much I don't know.

    Also, I didn't notice the walks between tee boxes being overly long.

    Great course and was in great nick, really enjoyed it and will be considering it for next years membership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭ssbob


    Only played once and was with the boards society last year, seemed like an age to get around, but it was particularly slow that day.

    The walk from the 9th green to the 10th tee seemed to be a fair distance. And at the time after our 5hr plus round, I found having to walk from the 18th right around the clubhouse quite annoying.

    Looking forward to going back though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Best I course I ve played this year
    I enjoyed the walks from the greens to next tees
    No run on the course I played the silver tee's and shot an 81, out in 37 hitting fairways back on 44, but the score doesn't reflect how I played the rough is very thick, any time I was in the rough I couldn't make good contact on the ball very punishing. Great course :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    levitronix wrote: »
    Best I course I ve played this year
    I enjoyed the walks from the greens to next tees
    No run on the course I played the silver tee's and shot an 81, out in 37 hitting fairways back on 44, but the score doesn't reflect how I played the rough is very thick, any time I was in the rough I couldn't make good contact on the ball very punishing. Great course :)

    No run? That seems a bit curious after all the dry weather. Was it soft? We've had a few downpours this week but if a course can't handle that it doesn't bode well for winter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Plug marks where very deep in the greens, but the greens where like carpets amazing , bunkers need a fill of sand, some where very wet, Fairways a joy to hit off but a bit soft ball was stopping where it hit

    If I was a member id spend an hour in the short game area before every round amazing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Fair enough. I'd be a bit concerned about the soft fairways though. If it's like that after our best summer in years...... It's a great course. I hope they can make it work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 592 ✭✭✭gorfield


    I played 9h this evening and there was loads of run on the fairways, place is very firm! Greens are being verti-cut amd topdressed on Tuesday to get some speed into them so it great to see some work going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,664 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    gorfield wrote: »
    I played 9h this evening and there was loads of run on the fairways, place is very firm! Greens are being verti-cut amd topdressed on Tuesday to get some speed into them so it great to see some work going on.

    wow, you're taking the society outing at the end of September very serious! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    gorfield wrote: »
    I played 9h this evening and there was loads of run on the fairways, place is very firm! Greens are being verti-cut amd topdressed on Tuesday to get some speed into them so it great to see some work going on.

    Good to hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Kace


    So how much are you guys all getting out for these days at PH?

    Sounds like my next ladz outing for definite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    gorfield wrote: »
    I played 9h this evening and there was loads of run on the fairways, place is very firm! Greens are being verti-cut amd topdressed on Tuesday to get some speed into them so it great to see some work going on.

    there where puddles in the bunkers on friday, so looks good if its dried up that quick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭levitronix


    Was hoping to play again , but cant find palmerstown hosue on golfnow anymore, they had a hot deal rate at 20 euro a head ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    levitronix wrote: »
    Was hoping to play again , but cant find palmerstown hosue on golfnow anymore, they had a hot deal rate at 20 euro a head ???

    Those deals were probably part of the NAMA policy of getting in cash by whatever means. Different story now and I don't blame them for pricing it properly. They are right to position it as quality course - not a cheap day out for bargain hunters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭rollotomasi


    Went out for 18 in Palmerstown yesterday - my first time there. €40 was the best greenfee available on Teetimes (although it looks like there are one slot for €25 available some days) but i rang up and booked over the phone. When i arrived, I was charged €35. It was well worth it - the greens were probably the best i played all year.


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