Stamullen Races 12/13/14 April

RJM85

I don't see any threads yet.

Anyone have profiles / maps?

lennymc

stamullen gp includes snowton, which is fun.

colm_gti

lennymc wrote: »

stamullen gp includes snowton, which is fun.

Puke!

I might do all three, but definitely doing the Stamullen GP at the very least.

lennymc

im doing Friday, have my graduation on saturday and a family thing on sunday, so unfortunately I will miss most of the suffering. Im genuinely upset at missing these!!

DKO

Is A4 only going to be 2 laps?

lennymc

stamullen gp segment:
http://app.strava.com/segments/1232587

Diarmuid

DKO wrote: »

Is A4 only going to be 2 laps?

You'll be thanking your lucky stars it's "only" 2 laps when you're racing it.

DKO

Thanks Lenny, I guess time will tell how long the A4 race will be.

buffalo

Diarmuid wrote: »

You'll be thanking your lucky stars it's "only" 2 laps when you're racing it.

+1 on this. I would've packed last year if we'd had to go up a third time.

Maps:
Sat: http://app.strava.com/segments/1227952
Sun: http://app.strava.com/segments/1232587

Finish lines are both end of segments.

resdubwhite

lads. compared to say something like Hollywood hill from the n81 side what is this hill like in Stamullen?
Have to give it a crack some weekend.

bcmf

resdubwhite wrote: »

lads. compared to say something like Hollywood hill from the n81 side what is this hill like in Stamullen?
Have to give it a crack some weekend.

Mr.White.
Its a world of pain.When you think its over you take a right hand turn and it really ramps up for a very short time.

manwithaplan

Snowtown is a drama in three parts, none of them very long. It kicks up just after the turn at the crossroads. With a decent position, a good shove out of the saddle will get you over this first hump - prob only 100 metres or so. It goes up again after a couple of hundred metres and this is another short sharp shock. After a bit more on the flat, the last part come immediately after a right hand bend. This is the longest piece and takes you to the top. It's still only 300 metres or so but it can be enough to finish you off. A straight fast descent follows and it's well worth sticking to your task because it often re-groups at the bottom of the hill.

It's not like the hills in Wicklow. It's punchy stuff rather than out and out climbing and there's plenty there for those with enough power.

resdubwhite

bcmf wrote: »

Mr.White.
Its a world of pain.When you think its over you take a right hand turn and it really ramps up for a very short time.

Must try and incorporate it in a run from Naul.

so basically, go straight instead of turn into Stamullen. Take a left towards navan rd and a right towards the race course.

bcmf

resdubwhite wrote: »

Must try and incorporate it in a run from Naul.

so basically, go straight instead of turn into Stamullen. Take a left towards navan rd and a right towards the race course.

From Stamulllen coming from Gormanston.
Go striaght thru Stamullen village. take no turns ie when you are faced with the 3 roads in front of you keep to the left then keep around to the right. When faced with a crosroads : Right is Bellewstown: Straight is Ardcath: Left is Paintown Snowtown.

From the Naul:
Pub on your left hand side. Go straight and you are on the other side of Snowtown.
when dropping down the other side make sure you keep to the left as you go round the bend.

manwithaplan

bcmf wrote: »

From the Naul:
Pub on your right hand side. Go straight and you are on the other side of Snowtown.

Pub is on the left, AFAIK.

bcmf

manwithaplan wrote: »

Pub is on the left, AFAIK.

Yes. Yes it is.
must.go.to.bed

resdubwhite

bcmf wrote: »

From Stamulllen coming from Gormanston.
Go striaght thru Stamullen village. take no turns ie when you are faced with the 3 roads in front of you keep to the left then keep around to the right. When faced with a crosroads : Right is Bellewstown: Straight is Ardcath: Left is Paintown Snowtown.

From the Naul:
Pub on your right hand side. Go straight and you are on the other side of Snowtown.
when dropping down the other side make sure you keep to the left as you go round the bend.

Got you.

joker77

Any route info for Friday evening?

buffalo

joker77 wrote: »

Any route info for Friday evening?

http://app.strava.com/segments/1225596 is what I came up with.

lalorm

bcmf wrote: »

Mr.White.
Its a world of pain.When you think its over you take a right hand turn and it really ramps up for a very short time.

After the turn to the right, it ramps up to 12% in places. Only for a short time, but enough to put me out the back the last 2 years in a row!

colm_gti

Anyone got any sign on details for Saturday and Sunday?

Time? Location?

pprendeville

Possibly that big school near the pub where a guy was shot recently. Cant remember school or pub name but about 3k from Stamullen.

dermabrasion

Is this a race series a secret? Can someone from Stamullen give a post on times, place to sign on, and what race is what. Cheers.

Beasty

dermabrasion wrote: »

Is this a race series a secret? Can someone from Stamullen give a post on times, place to sign on, and what race is what. Cheers.

I suspect t'internet has not permeated Stamullen yet ...

Just drive through the area and listen out for Gaybo's dulcet tones - you'll soon work out where all the action is ... (CI website says 7pm Friday, 12.30 Saturday and Sunday, which I presume are race times)

colm_gti

While innocently pedalling through stamullen this afternoon I spotted a number of signs warning locals of a race on Saturday from 11 til 2. I'm guessing sign on will be from 9 or 9:30 going off previous race times.

bcmf

Beasty wrote: »

I suspect t'internet has not permeated Stamullen yet ...

They only got the auld electric switched on 2 years back.

Swordsdave

On Saturday the juniors race from 11 till 12 and seniors race at 12:30

dougal01

Not representing Stamullen folks but heres the schedule to the best of my knowledge.
Fri Nite Sign on in St Colmcilles GAA Pilltown fromapprox 5.30 for a 7pm start
Handicap race for all cats.Total about 45km
Sat Sign on in Mc Cormacks Pub Balscadden From 10.30
Various Youth racing at 11.30am withe Sens at 12.30.Again its a handicap event for all cats.Total approx 50km
Sun Sign on in Gormanstown College from 10.30
All races start at 12.30 wirhin a few minutes of each other inc youth
A1/A2 6 x laps of Snowtown 120k
A3/Jun 3 x laps 80k
A4 2 x laps 40k
U16 2 x laps 40k
U14 half lap
U12 5km
Races start at the college and all finish in Stamullen Village.Thats all for now folks but do tune in again.

Arthurdaly

A3 3 laps @80km? Should that be 60Km.

A4 race seems very short but by god snowtown wouldn't be welcome a third time at race pace!

wav1

Arthurdaly wrote: »

A3 3 laps @80km? Should that be 60Km.

A4 race seems very short but by god snowtown wouldn't be welcome a third time at race pace!

Its 4 laps 80km.A3/Jun

shaungil

Friday night race very fast and flat, Did it two years ago with the A3's and first three lasp we avergaed 44kph. Was class. from Pilltown out to N1 down to julianstown left towards Laytown one little bump and into the only dodgy corner and then road not great. 2 years ago A3's stayed away but Martyn Irvine (whatever happened to him:D) Paul Kennedy and Javan nulty bridged with one other just before the end, wth Marty beating Paul.

killalanerr

shaungil wrote: »

Friday night race very fast and flat, Did it two years ago with the A3's and first three lasp we avergaed 44kph. Was class.A3's stayed away but Martyn Irvine (whatever happened to him:D)

+1 on this one its class fast and furious ill be there ,i rode that race Shaun it was my first year back racing,i was heading out the back when the speed shot up with a few laps to go i was glad the suffering was over but Irvine pushed me back into the middle of the bunch and i was back going again he done it a few times before i blew and then went on to win the race class

Pawlie

Any maps on sat race,is it handicapped lads

pprendeville

Snowtown comes early on Sun so advisable to get in a good warmup to be prepared.

RJM85

As the a4 race is <40k is that just points for the first 3?

wav1

RJM85 wrote: »

As the a4 race is <40k is that just points for the first 3?

Due to the changes in the points allocation agreed at last years AGM I would think there will still be points for the first eight regardless of distance but I could be wrong.40K around this is tougher than 70k most other races.

Pawlie

wav1 wrote: »

Due to the changes in the points allocation agreed at last years AGM I would think there will still be points for the first eight regardless of distance but I could be wrong.40K around this is tougher than 70k most other races.

Any distance under 50km = 1st 3 home for points
Any distance over 50km = 1st 8 home for points

Do not think they will change the rule on points for individual races

manwithaplan

Think I got a point for my sixth place in A4 last year. Don't tell anyone.

Pawlie

manwithaplan wrote: »

Think I got a point for my sixth place in A4 last year. Don't tell anyone.

I think it was 1st 6 get the points last year in a a4 race over 50km, so no need to hide that you got a point.

manwithaplan

Except that it was two and a bit laps, which is less than 50k.

pmurp141

hey lads
got email from organisor gaybo,


Fri: 12 April: Brendan Carroll Memorial (50k)
for category A1,A2,A3 & A4. (NO YOUTH RACE‘S) This race will take place at same new venue as 2010/’11 and will be held over (5) Laps of a flat circuit at Piltown, which is situated 1k off the old Dublin/Belfast main road, 2k north of Julianstown, starting at 7:00.
Directions from Dublin, leave M1 at J7 and follow sign for Julianstown which is on the old main Dublin/Belfast road. After you go straight through the village of Julianstown, you then take the 1st right-hand turn and the sign-on signs will bring you to race H/Q at St. Colmcille‘s GFC, Piltown which is just about 1-mile from turn off point.
Directions from North, leave at J7 which is first junction after going through the Toll and signposted Julianstown, as above.
Sat: 13 April: Pat & Monie Nolan Memorial (50k)
at Balscadden, North Co. Dublin. Racing for A1, A2, A3 and A4. Underage at 11:30 sharp and Seniors at 12:30 sharp.
Directions from Dublin, leave M1 at J6 (Naul/Balbriggan) at the top of the slip road follow race sign-on ‘signs’ to Balscadden.
Directions from North, leave M1 at J7 and follow sign-on ‘signs’ to Gormanston and on to Balscadden.
　
Sun: 14 April: Stamullen GP Races.
A+, A1, A2 (one race) - Winner of A1 receives Joey Whyte Cup, 1st A2 over line, placed or unplaced will receive the Patrick Kennedy Cup.
A3 (separate race) + Ladies
A4 (separate race)
SIGN ON FEES - ALL SENIORS €10.00 - U/AGE..€3.00
PLEASE TRY AND HAVE CORRECT SIGN-ON FEE AVAILABLE. THANKS.
Sign-On for all races - Gormanston College Leisure Centre from where all races will start. All races will finish in Stamullen Village.
1st race to leave college at 12:30 sharp will be the A+, A1, A2 event.
2nd race to leave college @ 3 mins will be the A3’s plus Ladies
3rd race to leave college @ 3 mins will be the U.16’s
Following @ 3 mins will be A4 race
U.14 and U.12 @ 5-mins.

RJM85

pmurp141 wrote: »

hey lads
got email from organisor gaybo,


Fri: 12 April: Brendan Carroll Memorial (50k)
for category A1,A2,A3 & A4. (NO YOUTH RACE‘S) This race will take place at same new venue as 2010/’11 and will be held over (5) Laps of a flat circuit at Piltown, which is situated 1k off the old Dublin/Belfast main road, 2k north of Julianstown, starting at 7:00.
Directions from Dublin, leave M1 at J7 and follow sign for Julianstown which is on the old main Dublin/Belfast road. After you go straight through the village of Julianstown, you then take the 1st right-hand turn and the sign-on signs will bring you to race H/Q at St. Colmcille‘s GFC, Piltown which is just about 1-mile from turn off point.
Directions from North, leave at J7 which is first junction after going through the Toll and signposted Julianstown, as above.
Sat: 13 April: Pat & Monie Nolan Memorial (50k)
at Balscadden, North Co. Dublin. Racing for A1, A2, A3 and A4. Underage at 11:30 sharp and Seniors at 12:30 sharp.
Directions from Dublin, leave M1 at J6 (Naul/Balbriggan) at the top of the slip road follow race sign-on ‘signs’ to Balscadden.
Directions from North, leave M1 at J7 and follow sign-on ‘signs’ to Gormanston and on to Balscadden.
　
Sun: 14 April: Stamullen GP Races.
A+, A1, A2 (one race) - Winner of A1 receives Joey Whyte Cup, 1st A2 over line, placed or unplaced will receive the Patrick Kennedy Cup.
A3 (separate race) + Ladies
A4 (separate race)
SIGN ON FEES - ALL SENIORS €10.00 - U/AGE..€3.00
PLEASE TRY AND HAVE CORRECT SIGN-ON FEE AVAILABLE. THANKS.
Sign-On for all races - Gormanston College Leisure Centre from where all races will start. All races will finish in Stamullen Village.
1st race to leave college at 12:30 sharp will be the A+, A1, A2 event.
2nd race to leave college @ 3 mins will be the A3’s plus Ladies
3rd race to leave college @ 3 mins will be the U.16’s
Following @ 3 mins will be A4 race
U.14 and U.12 @ 5-mins.

Any confirmation on race distances?

Beasty

RJM85 wrote: »

Any confirmation on race distances?

Tonight's course is 9km exactly (or at least it was last year), which makes 5 laps 45km

lennymc

flat out all the way tonight!! lets see if us a4's can stay away!

Beasty

lennymc wrote: »

flat out all the way tonight!! lets see if us a4's can stay away!

No chance if the handicaps are the same as last year - think we were given about a minute and were caught early on lap 2

lennymc

Beasty wrote: »

No chance if the handicaps are the same as last year - think we were given about a minute and were caught early on lap 2

thats all we need!! (positive thinking and all that). it'll be a massacre!

Beasty

lennymc wrote: »

thats all we need!! (positive thinking and all that). it'll be a massacre!

I think that one of the problems with open handicapped races is the handicaps are too small, leaving little incentive to try and stay away and resulting in very large bunches combining early on in the race, particularly with a flat course like tonight's. Everyone then tries to get near the front, speading the race across the road and resulting in increased risks being taken. TBH last year I worked hard in that first lap, but there were very few others prepared to do so, and then tried to hang on at the back until I was finally dropped on the penultimate lap.

lennymc

of the handicap races ive done it seems like people are resigned to the fact that they will be caught so sit in and do very little. I think jensie said if you attack you might not win 95% of the time, but if you dont attack you wont win 100% of the time. Sure it will be great craic

colm_gti

lennymc wrote: »

of the handicap races ive done it seems like people are resigned to the fact that they will be caught so sit in and do very little. I think jensie said if you attack you might not win 95% of the time, but if you dont attack you wont win 100% of the time. Sure it will be great craic

That's the best way to race Lenny

Beasty

colm_gti wrote: »

That's the best way to race Lenny

Surely the best way to race is to stick to Lenny's wheel until the final sprint:pac:

RJM85

colm_gti wrote: »

That's the best way to race Lenny

It's certainly the most fun. It's always a bit depressing when someone's summary of their race is that they 'finished in the bunch' without trying anything.