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Meaning of Well Known Phrases

  • 05-04-2013 1:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭


    All over the shop

    it came from messy work places

    it is simply an expression for disorganised.

    the shop in question may be work-shop rather than retail outlet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    "Thanks Captain Obvious"

    sarcastic remark aimed at a person who just said something that was already understood by everyone. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭pitythefool


    Korvanica wrote: »
    "Thanks Captain Obvious"

    sarcastic remark aimed at a person who just said something that was already understood by everyone. Ever.

    That is brilliant on so many levels in relation to my post

    Thanks Captain Obvious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    The Whole Nine Yards

    Not an American sports reference as many believe, but a reference to the "belt" of ammunition used by airforce gunners in WW2, which were nine yards long. Giving them "the whole nine yards" meant basically trying to blast the enemy to smithereens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    dont look a gift horse in the mouth..

    some one please explain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    neil_hosey wrote: »
    dont look a gift horse in the mouth..

    some one please explain

    you can tell a horse's age by it's teeth, so if you are given one as a gift, don't look at it's teeth in case it lessens the value of the gift horse in your mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭pitythefool


    neil_hosey wrote: »
    dont look a gift horse in the mouth..

    some one please explain

    Don't be ungrateful when you receive a gift.

    As horses develop they grow more teeth and their existing teeth begin to change shape and project further forward. Determining a horse's age from its teeth is a specialist task, but it can be done. This incidentally is also the source of another teeth/age related phrase long in the the tooth

    The advice given in the 'don't look...' proverb is: when receiving a gift be grateful for what it is; don't imply you wished for more by assessing its value.

    Two birds with one stone there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    neil_hosey wrote: »
    dont look a gift horse in the mouth..

    some one please explain

    "Equi donati dentes non inspiciuntur."

    some latin rubbish from the bible about horses teeth,


    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/don't_look_a_gift_horse_in_the_mouth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭pitythefool


    summerskin wrote: »
    you can tell a horse's age by it's teeth, so if you are given one as a gift, don't look at it's teeth in case it lessens the value of the gift horse in your mind.

    damn you summerskin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Cliona99


    This is a bit of a guess...

    You tell the age of a horse by its teeth, so if someone gives you a horse as a present, don't try to figure out how old it is, or how much it might be worth. Don't nitpick presents, basically.

    Edit: missed the boat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Cliona99 wrote: »
    This is a bit of a guess...

    You tell the age of a horse by its teeth, so if someone gives you a horse as a present, don't try to figure out how old it is, or how much it might be worth. Don't nitpick presents, basically.

    Edit: missed the boat

    Dont you mean the horse has bolted?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    going forward

    We've turned a corner.



    strikes rage into the 99 percent of Irish adults. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.


    Take whatever meaning you want from that. :pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    ......Jesus wept.....

    I care not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    going forward

    We've turned a corner.



    strikes rage into the 99 percent of Irish adults. :)

    for fúck's sake, can we not have one single thread without references to politics, recession etc????????



    some of us are better off than ever, not everyone is unhappy and fúcked!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭stmol32


    neil_hosey wrote: »
    dont look a gift horse in the mouth..

    some one please explain

    Everyone is wrong it's actually from the Trojan horse story.

    If you want to check if there's loads of Greeks hiding inside the don't look in the mouth end because there will be a fella waiting with a spear for your eyeball.

    You're supposed to look underneath for the trapdoor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.


    Take whatever meaning you want from that. :pac::pac:

    simple really, better to actually own one item of something, than to potentially own two


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    stmol32 wrote: »
    Everyone is wrong it's actually from the Trojan horse story.

    If you want to check if there's loads of Greeks hiding inside the don't look in the mouth end because there will be a fella waiting with a spear for your eyeball.

    You're supposed to look underneath for the trapdoor.

    Funnily, every single form of reference available would say that you are mistaken, and that this, as hyperborean commented, is correct... "Equi donati dentes non inspiciuntur."

    some latin rubbish from the bible about horses teeth,


    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/don't_...e_in_the_mouth "


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stmol32 wrote: »
    Everyone is wrong it's actually from the Trojan horse story.

    If you want to check if there's loads of Greeks hiding inside the don't look in the mouth end because there will be a fella waiting with a spear for your eyeball.

    You're supposed to look underneath for the trapdoor.

    Also the Trojan Horse story is the origin of the lesser-used but once common phrase 'Beware of Greeks bearing gifts'


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    And where "the greeks invented gays"

    Something to do with a load of loads being inside a horse.

    Wait, thats beastiality..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    What the hell does the "Driving Miss Daisy" reference mean?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭BillJ


    "Taking the high road"

    A term coined by hippies back in the 60's where they would smoke many many marijuana cigarettes before embarking on a journey


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BillJ wrote: »
    "Taking the high road"

    A term coined by hippies back in the 60's where they would smoke many many marijuana cigarettes before embarking on a journey

    Usually followed by a period of abstinence, hence coining the phrase "Keep off the grass"

    :)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    deccurley wrote: »
    What the hell does the "Driving Miss Daisy" reference mean?

    Im assuming its from the movie? An old lad driving around an old woman, fairly lightly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    "Hand over fist", often heard as, making money hand over fist.

    Comes from Roman times when two dies were used to mint coins. You'd hold the bottom die in your fist and hit the top die with your other hand, hand over fist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    In days of yore, most sailing ships had cannons and beside each cannon was a supply of iron cannon balls. These cannon balls were always stacked ferrero rocher style in a pyramid shape but at their base was a triangle made of brass, known as a monkey, to keep them in place.

    In cold weather when the metal triangle contracted it caused the cannon balls to fall off.

    Hence the phrase : "It would freeze the balls off a brass monkey".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    "To put the kibosh on..." means to put an end to something.

    Most likely derived from the Irish "caip bháis", referring to the black cap a judge would put on before sentencing someone to death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    deccurley wrote: »
    What the hell does the "Driving Miss Daisy" reference mean?

    It's a film and stage play isn't it? Not sure if it has any special meaning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    My favourite misused one is "blood is thicker than water"... Most people assume it means family bonds are stronger than others but in fact it means the EXACT opposite.

    It generally was a shortened version of "the blood of fraternity is thicker than the water of the womb"... friendships from the battlefield or similar are closer than those of your family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭cocobear


    "Rule of thumb"

    Originated with Miller's, they would take the ground flour between their thumb and index finger to test how coarse it was


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    summerskin wrote: »
    The Whole Nine Yards

    Not an American sports reference as many believe, but a reference to the "belt" of ammunition used by airforce gunners in WW2, which were nine yards long. Giving them "the whole nine yards" meant basically trying to blast the enemy to smithereens.

    That's a common but unlikely explanation

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards

    http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/nineyards.asp


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cocobear wrote: »
    "Rule of thumb"

    Originated with Miller's, they would take the ground flour between their thumb and index finger to test how coarse it was

    I always believed it was from an old law that held it was lawful for a man to beat his wife, provided he used an implement no thicker than his thumb to do so.

    As this would suggest:


    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/rule-of-thumb.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Cut and Run.

    An old nautical expression meaning to cut a ships anchor loose to facilitate a speedy getaway instead of pulling it in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    On and off the wagon...
    Interestingly the phrase 'on the wagon' stems from another tradition that took place on [the last journey of a condemned-to-death prisoner in London]. At Queen Matilda's ( wife of Henry I) bequest a cup of charity was given to the condemned as they travelled towards their death. Originally this was given at St Giles-in-the-Fields, a leper hospital until 1539 (it became a church in 1547). Then it became a custom that Bow tavern gave a pint of ale to each condemned person. Commonly used to describe abstaining from alcohol, one theory states that the phrase developed because prisonsers were put back on the wagon, never to drink again. Another theory goes that the executioner stayed on the wagon the whole time, as they were not invited into the tavern.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-london/A988833


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    antodeco wrote: »
    And where "the greeks invented gays"

    Something to do with a load of loads being inside a horse.

    Wait, thats beastiality..

    What do you think all dem greeks were doing in there? Waiting patiently?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    'Its raining cats and dogs'

    Did this ever really happen? :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    That is brilliant on so many levels in relation to my post

    Thanks Captain Obvious

    "so many levels"
    (usually means exactly "two levels")


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »

    From the Snopes website, a jocular origin for the phrase:
    Love-struck Andy McTavish sets off to visit his fiancée while well into his cups. He wears a kilt his mother has woven for him which was made of 1 yard of cloth instead of the normal 9. In his excitement and drunkenness he manages to slam the door on that item of clothing, thereby pulling it from his person and leaving him naked underneath his cloak.

    He arrives at his fiancées home in the middle of the night and wakes her by throwing stones at her window. Once she appears at the window he throws off his cloak revealing his full male glory (unbeknownst to him). He asks if she likes what she sees, the gal, blushingly, replies that she does, at which McTavish proudly says “Well lass, that’s nothing! I’ve 8 more yards at home!”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭ronan45


    "Hard Faced C%$T"

    What is a hard face and what does it look like :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭666irishguy


    "Over the top"

    The most commonly believed origin of this phrase is that it is used to describe the action of exiting a trench in WW1 and heading into no-mans land. Trenches were below ground level for obvious reasons and "over the top" of the trench was the dangerous world outside of it. To go over the top and into no-mans land was at best dangerous and in hindsight, the tactic of advancing out of the trenches and into no-mans land is regarded as being needlessly risky and futile considering what was gained by such attacks. Hence today it is used to describe someone engaging or reacting in an excessive or reckless manner with regards to a situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    davet82 wrote: »
    'Its raining cats and dogs'

    Did this ever really happen? :rolleyes:


    Cats and dogs would sleep in the thatched roofs. When it rained so heavily the thatch would become so wet the cats and dogs would lose their footing and fall off. Hence it is raining "cats and dogs"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    "Seize the day" is often misunderstood. It is seize the day for you don't know what tomorrow brings. The meaning was learn now because you might not have the chance to do so tomorrow not enjoy yourself now because you won't have the chance tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Piss Poor

    They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot and then once a day it was taken and sold to the tannery. If you had to do this to survive you were "piss poor".

    But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot. They "didn't have a pot to piss in" and were the lowest of the low


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Cats and dogs would sleep in the thatched roofs. When it rained so heavily the thatch would become so wet the cats and dogs would lose their footing and fall off. Hence it is raining "cats and dogs"

    well you learn something new everyday :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    AH has turned into the Ray Darcy show


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    "Cease the day" is often misunderstood.
    Indeed, "Cease the day" makes no sense, it's "Seize the day", from the Latin "Carpe diem".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    "Cease the day" is often misunderstood. It is cease the day for you don't know what tomorrow brings. The meaning was learn now because you might not have the chance to do so tomorrow not enjoy yourself now because you won't have the chance tomorrow.

    Ahem. It's 'Seize the day'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    "Tits on a bull"

    Is another way of saying useless :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Ahem. It's 'Seize the day'
    Agreed I mistyped but the saying explanation is correct :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Company folds

    In china they used ribbon to tie manuscripts together. Somebody figure you could fold the paper instead and make a kind of book. This made ribbon companies loose so much business that the expression of a company "folding" came in to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Another one I like was in olden days when it came to wash night (probably once a week if lucky), the tin bath was placed in the middle of the kitchen floor and the man of the house would get to wash first, then the woman of the house and then their children in order of their ages eldest to youngest. All in the same water :eek:

    By the time the youngest child or baby was to be washed, they'd probably end up even worse than they were as the water was so filthy, whatever was below the surface of the water could not be seen.

    Hence "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water".


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