Friday 5th April - Aintree Day 2

rossom

Two for me tomorrow with write ups to come

3.40 Aintree Gullible Gordon 20/1
4.50 Aintree Manyriverstocross 16/1

Johner

At Fishers Cross is 6/4 on Betfred if anyone is interested. Can't see anything beating him even with the quicker conditions.

Treble of My Tent Of Yours, Sprinter Sacre and At Fishers Cross looks good.

pugw

Heading over tomorrow, anyone got a banker for me please 2 odds on fav's tomorrow so anything (other than dundalk) will do :pac: Dynaste / at fishers cross double? Dynast let me down at cheltenham hoping he pulls one back or maybe vino greigo e/w

klairondavis

That three mile novice hurdle has a habit of throwing up funny results. I like At Fisher's Cross and backed him at Cheltenham but I'll be sitting out this race tomorrow.

SRFC

At Fishers cross has never even ran on good ground,the best he ran on was soft when he destroyed cheltenham winner salibrious at newbury,dont know weather to take the risk or not by backing him.

Inspector Coptoor

I like that treble of MTOY, SS & At FC.

Anyone think it'd be worthwhile doing a Yankee & throwing in Dynaste?

meath4sam

Flemenstsar 6/4 without fav banker of the week

TheMilkyPirate

Treble of AFC, Flemenstar w/o the fav and MTOY

20 pays 160

Inspector Coptoor

Nice bet.

Quadruple of MTOY, SS, At FC & Dynaste - €5 pays €59

And the treble (without Dynaste) - €10 pays €33 for 10/3 odds

SRFC

one or two these hotpots will be turned over lads dont get carried away with the multiples.

Inspector Coptoor

SRFC wrote: »

one or two these hotpots will be turned over lads dont get carried away with the multiples.

Agreed, that's why the stake is low.

Shane732

Sprinter Sacre to win by 8l or more is even money....

akelly02

that distance bet is buying money! but flemenstar is my fav horse in training...i suppose i could back sprinter to win by 8 or more and flemenstar w/o ss at 6/4...win win!

jimjamcos

2.00 MTOY will win but I might be interested in Art of Logistics in the W/O Fav market depending on price. Improved for better ground LTO to win a race containing a disappointing Waheeb. Flat pedigree and might improve further for better ground. Speculative.

2.30 Super Duty: Really like this horse. He's much better for decent ground and ran ok despite blundering against Simonsig over shorter trip at Aintree last year. Has only ran on poor ground since (just pipped by Goulanes over 3m in Feb) before running into a well-handicapped horse in the 4 miler at the festival. Dynaste has yet to ever win after December and back to 3 mile (although it's on a flat track) I can't be having him. I rate Rocky Creek highly but think ground might be a bit on the quick side for him. Super Duty 7/1 with Lads

3.05 Love Cue Card as a horse but based on Flemenstar dancing all over the Lexus field (including First Lieutenant) before stamina gave way, I think he is just a little bit special. Although not special enough to beat the odds-on beast. Flemenstar 6/4 W/O Fav.

3.40 Jamsie Hall ew @14/1. Looks another Elliot plot job to me.

4.15 Happy enough to oppose At Fishers Cross until he proves himself on better ground. McCoy said that bad ground helped his jumping after the win against The New One and money only seemed to pour in for him once rain came at the festival. Master Of The Sea @ 8/1 ran well to come 4th in the Coral at festival. Hated the ground and made a couple of mistakes. Will be much better for good ground tomorrow. Twiston-Davis could of thrown the exciting African Gold in here on his preferred ground for another go against AFC but is obviously happy enough to challenge with my pick.

4.50 Manyriverstocross @ 12/1 was an eyecather in the County Hurdle at festival on just his second run after a break of over two years. Plus, Rossom tipping him up always helps his chances! Will be having a small saver on Cotton Mill @ 8/1. He looked a horse full of promise last year and on his promising comeback run behind MTOY this season. For a horse with ambitions of taking his place in a Champion Hurdle, he was disappointing in the County Hurdle. Will give him one last chance and hope that he improves, like many others, for better ground. O'Regan seems to think he'll bounce back. Small win bet.

5.25 Cailin Annamh @ 14/1

mountai

Our Vinnie --- Bet of the meeting for me. I said before Cheltenham that the worry I had was Carbury riding him, and was proved correct. When OV was brought down, the horse that fell in front of him, almost came down at the previous hurdle and IMHO the Jockey should have switched OV away from the danger area. Having said this, it was interesting to see that Rebecca Curtis said, her biggest fear was that her horse would get into battle with another horse in the race. With the drying ground, which OV will relish,and forceful tactics being employed, I expect that there will be a battle royale tomorrow. OV just loves a battle and thats the type of horse I like. I"m backing it to win.

Johner

Are you in the syndicate that owns Our Vinnie?

mountai

Johner wrote: »

Are you in the syndicate that owns Our Vinnie?

Aw ****off !!

Johner

It was a genuine question!

and its ah **** off.

Rock Lesnar

Only 1 bet for me tomorrow and its Jamsie Hall in the Topham

mountai

Johner wrote: »

It was a genuine question!

and its ah **** off.

Wish i was

the groutch

6:50 Dundalk - Muizenberg Nights

This horse looks rediculously well handicapped off a mark of 58, having finished within 5 or 6 lenghts of some 80+ rated horses on his 3 maiden starts.

longshotvalue

4:50 Aintree

Clerks Choice ran a superb race in the county hurdle at the festival considering the state of the ground on the last day won’t have suited him at all. The way he stayed up the hill there should mean he will have no difficulty in getting the extra trip here on a much easier course with miles better ground. He ran a great race of 6lbs higher at this time last year in the Scottish Champion hurdle and looks well overpriced at 33/1

1 Point EW 33/1 Various

3:40 Aintree

I’m going to give Tranquil Sea a bit of a chance at a huge price in the Topham. He ran well over c&d in December, and has had a break since his last run hopefully to be ready for a shot at this. He jumped well last time apart from 1 mistake at the water jump and is 6lbs lower in the weights. He is still near top weight but on good ground this might not mater as much, and I’m hopeful he can put in a decent show tomorrow at a huge price.

1 Point EW 33/1 5 Places Various Boyles/PP etc.

I’m also going with a bit of class here at a big price in Walkon he’s a big price because he was poor enough at the festival although still finished 5th. He is down another couple of pounds here and has also won at this festival before. He was very good in his first 2 chases this year and if he can take to these fences he is bound to travel well. He looks a huge price at 25/1 and id be kicking myself if he won at that price.

1 Point EW 25/1 Paddy Power 5 Places

beaker1

2:30 – John Smith’s Mildmay Novices’ Chase

ROCKY CREEK missed Cheltenham to go for this and connections can be rewarded for that decision. In four starts over fences he has looked very good, including an impressive defeat of Molotof at Doncaster. Last time out he won the Grade Two Reynoldstown Chase at Ascot despite connections stating that he ran below form. Having been given time to recover he comes here a fresh horse and sets the standard. He jumps well and stays very well and it is worth noting that he beat Rolling Aces in a point-to-point who is now rated 153. The main danger looks to be Super Duty who jumped really well at Cheltenham last time. He had a hard race though and that could cost him here.

3.05 – John Smith’s Melling Chase

Sprinter Sacre steps up in trip to tackle two and a half miles for the first time over fences and faces some tough opposition, so this is not the formality that many think. He is certainly the most likely winner as he has looked an absolutely fantastic horse so far, but he faces classy opposition over a trip he is unproven over, so this will be a fascinating race to watch. Flemenstar is sure to make the running and make it a serious test for the favourite, but it has been reported that he is a bad traveler and this is the first time that he has raced outside Ireland, so he may not run to form. Finian’s Rainbow was impressive last year and could bounce back on better ground and with McCoy in the saddle I am expecting him to run his best race of the season. Cue Card was brilliant at Cheltenham and this is definitely his trip. He may struggle to make all the running, but should be able to sit up with the pace and a repeat of his last run should make him the biggest danger to the favourite, so it is CUE CARD BETTING WITHOUT THE FAVOURITE for me.

4:50 – John Smith’s Daily Mirror Punters Club Handicap Hurdle

MINELLA FORFITNESS has really impressed me so far over hurdles and is a very interesting runner on his handicap debut. He looked a horse going places when he won at Doncaster at the start of February, beating Zuider Zee and Aaim To Prosper who have both won since. He showed a really good attitude that day and then returned to Doncaster to beat Cheltenian over two miles, where again he battled well to win. This trip should suit him much more than the two miles he ran over last time and off a mark of 135, he should run a big race.

Shane732

Seems to be a lot of us on Super Duty tomorrow.

For me it's more a case of being disappointed by Dynaste, one of the festival good things.

Moon Dice

beaker1 wrote: »

2:30 – John Smith’s Mildmay Novices’ Chase

ROCKY CREEK missed Cheltenham to go for this and connections can be rewarded for that decision. In four starts over fences he has looked very good, including an impressive defeat of Molotof at Doncaster. Last time out he won the Grade Two Reynoldstown Chase at Ascot despite connections stating that he ran below form. Having been given time to recover he comes here a fresh horse and sets the standard. He jumps well and stays very well and it is worth noting that he beat Rolling Aces in a point-to-point who is now rated 153. The main danger looks to be Super Duty who jumped really well at Cheltenham last time. He had a hard race though and that could cost him here.

3.05 – John Smith’s Melling Chase

Sprinter Sacre steps up in trip to tackle two and a half miles for the first time over fences and faces some tough opposition, so this is not the formality that many think. He is certainly the most likely winner as he has looked an absolutely fantastic horse so far, but he faces classy opposition over a trip he is unproven over, so this will be a fascinating race to watch. Flemenstar is sure to make the running and make it a serious test for the favourite, but it has been reported that he is a bad traveler and this is the first time that he has raced outside Ireland, so he may not run to form. Finian’s Rainbow was impressive last year and could bounce back on better ground and with McCoy in the saddle I am expecting him to run his best race of the season. Cue Card was brilliant at Cheltenham and this is definitely his trip. He may struggle to make all the running, but should be able to sit up with the pace and a repeat of his last run should make him the biggest danger to the favourite, so it is CUE CARD BETTING WITHOUT THE FAVOURITE for me.

4:50 – John Smith’s Daily Mirror Punters Club Handicap Hurdle

MINELLA FORFITNESS has really impressed me so far over hurdles and is a very interesting runner on his handicap debut. He looked a horse going places when he won at Doncaster at the start of February, beating Zuider Zee and Aaim To Prosper who have both won since. He showed a really good attitude that day and then returned to Doncaster to beat Cheltenian over two miles, where again he battled well to win. This trip should suit him much more than the two miles he ran over last time and off a mark of 135, he should run a big race.

Do you post on the suns racing forum because I have read the exact same thing there?

SRFC

Shane732 wrote: »

Seems to be a lot of us on Super Duty tomorrow.

For me it's more a case of being disappointed by Dynaste, one of the festival good things.

Super duty is a handicapper,has no chance of winning tomorrow rocky creek and dynaste have the beating of him shocking price at 6/1.

jimjamcos

SRFC wrote: »

Super duty is a handicapper,has no chance of winning tomorrow rocky creek and dynaste have the beating of him shocking price at 6/1.

Did you not hear the news lad?!? Willie Mullins bought him there last night. He's been a certainty ever since!! Who you fancy yourself?

SRFC

jimjamcos wrote: »

Did you not hear the news lad?!? Willie Mullins bought him there last night. He's been a certainty ever since!! Who you fancy yourself?

I was bullish Fago had zero chance in todays novice and im sure this wont be winning,he's been beaten by the likes of Bury Parade,Goulanes and Same Difference,Id be pretty sure dynaste is stones better than them horses same with rocky creek,I doubt ill have a bet to be honest but I'd lay superduty.

jimjamcos

SRFC wrote: »

I was bullish Fago had zero chance in todays novice and im sure this wont be winning,he's been beaten by the likes of Bury Parade,Goulanes and Same Difference,Id be pretty sure dynaste is stones better than them horses same with rocky creek,I doubt ill have a bet to be honest but I'd lay superduty.

It didn't take a genius to think Fago had no chance today. Sure I even said so myself which was about all I got right! :rolleyes: You're not gonna make much money laying outsiders at 8/1 pal. Look how far Dynaste was ahead of Benefficient on ratings in Jewson and it didn't stop him winning. Racing's not that easy to work out! Throw up a few horses will ya and give the ole picking a horse a lash. Muillins even has a runner or two.

SRFC

jimjamcos wrote: »

It didn't take a genius to think Fago had no chance today. Sure I even said so myself which was about all I got right! :rolleyes: You're not gonna make much money laying outsiders at 8/1 pal. Look how far Dynaste was ahead of Benefficient on ratings in Jewson and it didn't stop him winning. Racing's not that easy to work out! Throw up a few horses will ya and give the ole picking a horse a lash. Muillins even has a runner or two.

I dont bet in every race just because its a festival,havent made my mind up yet if Im having a bet going through the cards now,Had a good bet on Willie's thousands stars today an admirable performance from him didnt mind losing on it,

Saving my money for the bank of mullins festival at Punchestown much easier making money there than at Aintree,anyways I like Abigail Lynch in the bumper dont think it will be beaten 16/1.

jimjamcos

SRFC wrote: »

I dont bet in every race just because its a festival,havent made my mind up yet if Im having a bet going through the cards now,Had a good bet on Willie's thousands stars today an admirable performance from him didnt mind losing on it,

Saving my money for the bank of mullins festival at Punchestown much easier making money there than at Aintree,anyways I like Abigail Lynch in the bumper dont think it will be beaten 16/1.

Good lad. All the best with that. Make sure to post if you fancy any others tomorrow ya hear me!

rossom

3.40 Aintree

Gullible Gordon 20/1

Peter Bowen has an incredible record in this race having won 4 of the last 6 renewals include the last 3 with Grand National hope Always Waining and I think he has an excellent chance of taking this race for the 4th year on the trot with Gullible Gordon. Now a 10 year old, this gelding hasn't been with Bowen overly long but is undoubtedly well handicapped off a mark of 126 on the form he showed for Paul Nicholls and I was very impressed with his run over these fences in the Becher Handicap on unsuitably heavy ground back in December and I'm full sure that Bowen has targeted this race for him for the past few months. When trained by Nicholls, Gullible Gordon ran out a comfortable winner off a mark of 134 for his last win back in October 2010 and after losing his way he joined current connections in November last year. He made his debut for Bowen on the back of more than a year off the track when tailed off and clearly in need of the run at Haydock but he certainly showed his hunger for racing remained with an excellent performance in the Becher Chase. Off a mark of 130 and under Ryan Mania, Gullible Gordon was prominent early on sitting close enough to the pace and jumped pretty much every fence with aplomb and was clearly really enjoying himself. He was going so well, that he jumped to the lead at Bechers Brook and was still in the lead jumping 3 out. In the long run to 2 out, Gullible Gordon first came under pressure and was narrowly headed jumping 2 out. He continued to battle on gamely but was a couple of lengths down jumping the last and in the very long run in to the finish it was clear the tank was empty and he eventually finished a 15L beaten 6th over the 3m2f trip. On ground that he wouldn't have liked, it was a fantastic performance for most of the race and given that it was only his 2nd start back after such a long absence it wouldn't surprise me if it transpired that he wasn't 100% fit. That performance clearly demonstrated two things: his ability remains in tact and his affinity for Aintree and the National fences.

He's had one run since then when tailed off at Sandown on soft ground back in January but I'm quite happy to ignore that run as Peter Bowen has a tremendous knack of getting his horses spot on for the big occasion and he's clearly targeted this race for Gullible Gordon for the past few months and has been freshened up since then. Additionally, that run has seen the handicapper drop him 4lb to a career low mark over fences of 126. He has creeped in towards the bottom of the handicap and has a lovely racing weight of 10-1 which should be a massive bonus given that 7 of the last 12 winners have carried 10-4 or less. Jamie Moore takes the ride and was on board Bowen's winner of this back in 2007 and I'm happy with his booking. A prominent racer which is always something I like in huge fields like this 30 runner contest, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually went from the front as he is a stout stayer and enjoyed himself out in front here. Peter Bowen has clearly got his horses in superb form with his last 2 runners winning impressively and prior to 8 days ago he was winnerless since November which emphasises how good he is at getting his horses to peak at the right time and Gullible Gordon will be spot on for this. Clearly well handicapped and on a lovely racing weight, he should really appreciate the return to a sounder surface and his experience over the National fences should prove invaluable as the last 5 winners of this have experienced them before winning and that should stand him in great stead. Gullible Gordon's trainer clearly knows both what sort of horse it takes to win this and how to ready them and I'm sure this has been his goal. Although this 30 runner field is potentially fraught with danger, if Gullible Gordon receives a trouble free passage I think he'll take quite a bit of beating and I'm about as confident as you can be in a race of this nature.

SRFC

jimjamcos wrote: »

Good lad. All the best with that. Make sure to post if you fancy any others tomorrow ya hear me!

I have one good thing for Punchestown of Willie's,this thing will hack up in a hurdle waiting a good while for it so dont worry if you lose at aintree this week save your money ill post it when he runs Pat Keating of Ballydoyle gave me 4 unraced animals they like will post when they run too,feck aintree im waiting on these things :cool:

Hulk Hands

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

I like that treble of MTOY, SS & At FC.

Anyone think it'd be worthwhile doing a Yankee & throwing in Dynaste?

No. It's worth backing them all in singles. If Mtoy wins, then nothing is stopping you putting it all on SS (same as a double). If he wins, there is nothing stopping you putting it all on AFC. Difference is, you can back them all with different bookies at best price. Or you can control the stakes on each one.

Every week, you have the educated on the forum (not me) point out how stupid doubles, trebles and accum's are. Yet week after week, posters keep putting them up. Why are people looking here if they don't want to glean some knowledge?

Anyways, for tomorrow, I really struggle to see how Dynaste is 15/8. He is well clear of these on ratings. He had a hard race at the festival, but was it any harder than Super Duty's or Vino Griego's? No. Is their form any better than his? No. I'd be very suprised if sea of thunder was good enough.

This isn't an odds on shot. It's a 15/8 shot. And the only likely challenger is a very likeable but average Rocky Creek. 15/8 looks massive.

Elsewhere, Our Vinnie has a decent chance of redemption at 10/1.

SRFC

Anyone think a dutch of Our Vinnie and Road to Riches is worth a bet?


Its an 11 horse race and the likes of Imperial Leader,Uxiandre,yesyoucan,kris cross,buchaill alainn and just a par have no chance of winning that tomorrow so now we have a 5 horse race in my book and these are serious value at 8/1 each imo.



Are Sprinter Sacre backers not worried about history repeating its self ie,Master Minded hacking up in the CC and then getting turned over at Aintree?

Goldcupfav

A few bets i will be doing tomorrow.

2.00 Forgotten Voice at 4/6 w/o MTOY looks banker imo. Think Forgotten Voice will push the fav close though.

2.30 Dynaste all day long. 15/8 looks a big price considering he went off 11/8 against a much stronger field at Cheltenham. Track and ground more in his favour today then the last day. Fully expect him blitz this field like he did in the feltham at Kempton.

3.05 One of the races of the nh season. Going big on Cue Card w/o SS at 6/4. But also backing Cue Card at 7/1 think its going to be alot closer than people think in this. You could possibly back Cue Card and Flemenstar in the w/o SS market think it works out about a 1/4 shot as honestly cant see Finians or For Non Stop getting near the top 3.

3.40 Tough race to call was told tonight from a very good source to back Last Time Dalbain with Bryan Cooper on board he's 16/1 5 places in powers.

4.15 no bet..

4.50 Think someone mentioned him already Minella Forfitness. Barry would of been on this horse but he cant do the weight. Former p2p winner step up in distance wont be a problem. 135 looks a fair mark.

5.20 Small ew stakes on Taradrewe as her form last season is decent. She beat Caroles Spirit who is 2nd fav for this by 10 lengths on her first run last year. Next time out she was tried in a listed mares bumper at Sandown where she finished 4th beaten about 10 lengths into 3rd by Eleven Fifty Nine who won this race last year. Ran a stinker first time out this season but was obviously fancied that day as she went off 3/1 fav. Tough to find the winner but this horse interest me at a price.

JAMMYK

criqtonic 21/1 ..... 15.40

rossom

4.50 Aintree

Manyriverstocross 16/1

Manyriverstocross comes here on the back of an excellent staying on 3rd in the County Hurdle last month and despite a 3lb hike in the the weights I think he's got a really good chance of going a couple of places better on what will be only his 3rd start after a long absence. Manyriverstocross had been off the track for 27 months with a stress fracture before reappearing in the Betfair Hurdle February and his run at Cheltenham clearly demonstrates that he still holds all of his ability. A pretty talented horse on the flat, this 8 year old proved equally as talented in his juvenile hurdling days when comfortably landing a Grade 2 way back in December 2009 before he ran an absolute blinder to finish 7th in the 2010 Neptune Hurdle but his finishing position does not do that run justice. At the 2nd flight, Manyriverstocross was hampered horrendously by the fall of Quel Esprit in front of him and Choc Thornton performed miracles that day to stay on board in an incident that surely took an awful lot out of the horse as he dropped back to the rear of the field. He showed tremendous resolution to get back into the race after that to finish a 15L beaten 7th as he was taken care of after the final flight when his chance was gone but he surely would have been challenging for a place had that horrible incident not occurred. That was his 2nd last start before a stress fracture saw him off the track for over 2 years with his final start prior to the injury coming on his seasonal reappearance with an absolutely belting run in the Greatwood Handicap Hurdle at Cheltenham when finishing 3rd off his current mark of 138. The form of that race is absolutely superb with the winner Menorah a high class hurdler who would go on to run really well in that seasons Champion Hurdle. Furthermore, the runner up Bothy went on to go down by a short head on his next start over hurdles off a 9lb higher mark in the similarly competitive Totesport Trophy before running an absolute blinder to finish 2nd in the Coral Cup when running into the very well handicapped Carlito Brigante off an 11lb higher mark that season. The form was franked over and over again by those in behind which include Any Given Day, Olofi and Get Me Out Of Here and it was a superb effort. Additionally, he may not have even been 100% wound up given that it was his first start since the Neptune 8 months earlier but it was clear that he was a very progressive horse at the time.

Its a shame his injury sidelined him for such a long time but he made his belated reappearance in the Betfair Hurdle in February where he tomorrow's jockey Wayne Hutchinson definitely took care of him as he came home to finish a promising 10th. That run clearly blew away the cobwebs when he arguably put in a career best 3 weeks ago at Cheltenham in the County Hurdle when running an absolute blinder to finish a 6L beaten 3rd. Held up towards the rear of mid division, Hutchinson hugged the rail on his mount throughout the contest to save ground. Swinging into the home straight Manyriverstocross was about 7th or 8th under pressure but in between the final two flights he stayed on really nicely and after jumping the final flight he put distance between himself and the rest of the field as the first two home had already achieved an insurmountable advantage. It was an absolutely superb run and a great sight to for his very patient connections and I think he'll improve again for what was his first proper blowout in such a long time. Based on his old form, I definitely feel he is still a well handicapped horse and I think he'll definitely appreciate the step back up to 20f, the distance of his Grade 2 win. I also think it is very interesting that Wayne Hutchinson sticks with Manyriverstocross as opposed to switching to Coral Cup 2nd Meister Eckhart (who Coleman road that day) and I hope its a signal of intent as Hutchinson would probably have had the choice of rides. Alan King, who won this back in 2010, has his horses in good form at present and landed the Grade 1 Juvenile Hurdle today. Of the opposition, Broadway Buffalo is clearly the most fascinating contender in the field being unbeaten in 5 contests and untroubled over hurdles and you've just got to hold up your hands if he wins this. I rate Salubrious as a very big threat on the back of his impressive Martin Pipe win for which an 8lb rise seems fair and I've had a saver on him. If building on his last run, I strongly fancy a big run from Manyriverstocross who should relish the step up in distance and it would be a tremendous reward for connections if he can land this after his unfortunate injury.

Shane732

Has Dynaste lost a leg?

Messi19

Our Vinny a non runner

ste2010

Wouldn't be surprised if sea of thunder won that race today. I'm steering clear of pipes horses given what went down at Cheltenham. Although the track will suit, Super duty had a grueling race at Cheltenham. Of all the horses running at aintree he is one I would avoid the most.
Rocky creek and sea of thunder for me with rocky creek getting the preference.

ste2010

Is it just me or do the following horses look well handicapped or nicely priced

Punjabi weight 10-3
Khyber Kim weight 11-1 Geraghty on board
Sadlers risk price 33-1

the groutch

only one of those I'd consider touching is Kyber Kim, because at least be beat a couple of decent horses when 2nd to Zarkandar.
the other two have shown nothing at all since their comebacks, and if they can't even run within 30lb of their former ability, I don't think that any amount of the handicapper dropping them down the weights will make a difference.

carmanard

For today, I'm punting an e/w lucky 15 of: Sea of Thunder in the Mildmay (will absolutely love the ground, totally unexposed as a chaser, shrewd trainer & eye catching jockey booking), Jamsie Hall in the Topham (Elliott plot all over), Yesyoucan in the Sefton (race that throws up the odd shock winner,he's stepping up to 3 miles today and his pedigree screams stamina as his dam is a half sister to Harbour Pilot, his form is pretty decent, ground a bit of an unknown but he was placed twice on faster ground even though his 3 wins were on soft & heavy, possibly do an e/w saver on Gevrey Chambertin in the same race as he's clearly better than his last run shows & has won at Aintree in the past) and Grandads Horse in the 4.50 (ground will suit, trip will suit, lightly weighted, not sure if the long break since his last run was due to injury or a deliberate ploy to wait for better ground but he should certainly be fit enough to do himself justice as most of Longsdons horses don't lack for fitness in their races). Off to the big shmoke for the weekend tonight, so hopefully these nags can pay for the hotel & a beer (or twelve) for me!!!

Suarez20

todays fanices, sentry duty, road to riches and 2 in the handicap hurdle, barbatos and grandads horse

Anyone know what noel meades horses run like at aintree? Does he send many over? think at fishers cross is a massive lay on good ground

hawkeyethenoo

Hulk Hands wrote: »

No. It's worth backing them all in singles. If Mtoy wins, then nothing is stopping you putting it all on SS (same as a double). If he wins, there is nothing stopping you putting it all on AFC. Difference is, you can back them all with different bookies at best price. Or you can control the stakes on each one.

Every week, you have the educated on the forum (not me) point out how stupid doubles, trebles and accum's are. Yet week after week, posters keep putting them up. Why are people looking here if they don't want to glean some knowledge?

not everyone bets online and not everyone can walk into the bookies three or four times a day a treble is an easier bet to do for people

Anyone

2.00 My Tent or Yours
2.30 Rocky Creek
3.05 Cue Card(W/O SS)
4.15 At Fishers Cross

Lucky 15 done

Had a free €10 bet on the Topham for today so put €5 e/w on Criqtonic

premierstone

hawkeyethenoo wrote: »

not everyone bets online and not everyone can walk into the bookies three or four times a day a treble is an easier bet to do for people

Percisely and if anyone thinks a third hotpot on a card's price will not be affected by the first two bolting in they are mistaken.

CeevieD

What are people's fancy for the Topham Chase? I am torn between Tartak and Guillible Gordon. PP are paying out on 5 places

UrbanSea

The amount of horses I back that lose but win next time out when I'm not on is unbelievable. So everyone get on Tartak and Manyriverstocross today.


Only one bet for me today, have followed Clerk's Choice without backing him for a long time now I'm waiting for his right conditions. Needs real good ground and I thought ideally two miles, but he ran quite a good race in the County on soft ground and could never get involved, stepped up today on the best ground he has gotten in quite a while could hopefully see him run a big race as he is getting very well handicapped. 40/1 I got with Ladbrokes

sting60

Aintree 4.50 Barbatos 8/1 NAP.His run in the Coral Cup was outstanding when he clearly hated the ground.Todays ground is what he requires and has a good turn of foot.His last two runs will have put him spot on for today which has clearly been his target.