Tubs having a mare on BBC

heybaby

Just listening to Tubbers making a complete mess of things while covering for Simon Mayo on the BEEB. Im not generally a Tubs listener but for the love of god has this guy ever actually presented on radio before ? From his uneasy and unfunny 'banter' with the exceptionally polished news and travel presenters, to talking over the vocal intro to a song because he's clearly not wearing his headphones, abruptly introducing songs and then cutting them short because he's running out of time, he sounds like someone who is on the air for the first time and not the 'seasoned pro' he should be. Are the BBC that desperate for an irish accent on their schedule that they are willing to let their high standards drop to facilitate this guy? He's been in the industry a long time but has very little poise, charm and for me completely lacks the gravitas needed to join the ranks of the BEEB.

spank_inferno

Listening now, he's doing fine. (at the moment anyway).

No easy feat to replace Simon Mayo though, he's one of the best.

Skid X

If he was that bad why would they keep asking him back (in high profile slots)?

He suits BBC Radio 2 much better than 2FM, he will probably end up going there full time sooner or later.

heybaby

Skid X wrote: »

If he was that bad why would they keep asking him back (in high profile slots)?

He suits BBC Radio 2 much better than 2FM, he will probably end up going there full time sooner or later.

I totally agree he doesnt suit 2fm, but I still think he needs to slow down with his delivery, especially on the BBC. He doesnt have the self-assuredness or calmness that someone who has been plying his trade on air for so many years should have.

Hitchens

heybaby wrote: »

Just listening to Tubbers making a complete mess of things while covering for Simon Mayo on the BEEB. Im not generally a Tubs listener but for the love of god has this guy ever actually presented on radio before ? From his uneasy and unfunny 'banter' with the exceptionally polished news and travel presenters, to talking over the vocal intro to a song because he's clearly not wearing his headphones, abruptly introducing songs and then cutting them short because he's running out of time, he sounds like someone who is on the air for the first time and not the 'seasoned pro' he should be. Are the BBC that desperate for an irish accent on their schedule that they are willing to let their high standards drop to facilitate this guy? He's been in the industry a long time but has very little poise, charm and for me completely lacks the gravitas needed to join the ranks of the BEEB.

Wasn't he back in Dublin today to interview Paddy Tom Cruise?

heybaby

Hitchens wrote: »

Wasn't he back in Dublin today to interview Paddy Tom Cruise?

Perhaps, but he is definitely live now on the beeb.

Skid X

heybaby wrote: »

I totally agree he doesnt suit 2fm, but I still think he needs to slow down with his delivery, especially on the BBC. He doesnt have the self-assuredness or calmness that someone who has been plying his trade on air for so many years should have.

I didn't hear him this evening, maybe he is having a bad day. He was decent enough when he did Weekends and Breakfast. Although he really is being indulged by RTE by being allowed to drop his 2FM show whenever it suits.

Hitchens wrote: »

Wasn't he back in Dublin today to interview Paddy Tom Cruise?

Not a great preparation for the show flying back and forward from Ireland. His schedule might be catching up on him.

salad dodger

Hitchens wrote: »

Wasn't he back in Dublin today to interview Paddy Tom Cruise?

Skid X wrote: »

Not a great preparation for the show flying back and forward from Ireland. His schedule might be catching up on him.

Does he not do his beeb cover from their studio in Belfast?

Loafing Oaf

salad dodger wrote: »

Does he not do his beeb cover from their studio in Belfast?

Not sure about Belfast, but I heard he was doing it from Ireland this time alright.

jimmyw

No, I think he did the show from London Monday and Tuesday, then flying back to Dublin for the "Cruise" recording.He is then doing the BBC shows from Dublin for the other 3 days.Bit strange.There is dedication for ya.......:P

Welsh Megaman

9 posts in and no sign of jimmynokia?!

You'd be right though, he has stayed in Ireland.

http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/tubs-channels-both-sides-of-irish-sea-29164041.html

msg11

Do the BBC have a studio in Dublin or what studio do they use for this?

Infoanon

heybaby wrote: »

Just listening to Tubbers making a complete mess of things.... From his uneasy and unfunny 'banter' with the exceptionally polished news and travel presenters, to talking over the vocal intro to a song because he's clearly not wearing his headphones, abruptly introducing songs and then cutting them short because he's running out of time, he sounds like someone who is on the air for the first time and not the 'seasoned pro' he should be.

Sounds like Chris Evans on breakfast then !

Listened to Tubbs on Monday and he sounded very good and very at ease.
I recall last time he was on BBC2 he went into the studios the night before to get used to the desk.

Fuzzy Clam

msg11 wrote: »

Do the BBC have a studio in Dublin or what studio do they use for this?

I don't know the answer to this but, with everthing being done over I/P these days, i would be surprised if the BBC couldn't just rent an RTE studio.
In fact, if this isn't the way it is done, i would question why.

And yes, the BBC do (or did) have a studio in Dublin, although whether it is suitable of this type of program, I don't know as i haven't been in it for many years.

jonniebgood1

I would be surprised if he was good on the BBC. Honestly other than celebrity gossip I think he is incapable.

Skid X

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

I would be surprised if he was good on the BBC. Honestly other than celebrity gossip I think he is incapable.

Have you heard him on the BBC?

Harry Angstrom

I wonder how long RTE will tolerate his double-jobbing? He's hardly going to be able to consolidate his 2FM listenership if he's heading off to do programmes for BBC Radio 2 every time they come asking.

blastman

I Listened to him filling in for Graham Norton on Saturday mornings last summer. Dreadful, dreadful stuff....

Hitchens

the BBC are searching for another Terry Wogan

Phoenix3

Just listening to the start of his show now.In his 1st link he says "Lets hear from you all this MORNING" Not a great start.However I will listen on -Whilst I am not a big fan of his,I am a big admirer of the BBC R2 format and those warm tones of audio.

JonathanAnon

I think, as was said above, the BBC are looking for the next token Irish broadcaster to pander to middle class England.. Tubridy is the closest thing we have, so they send him, despite the fact that both his shows here are very poor.

From RTE's point of view, I think it may be a bit of Kevin Cardiff syndrome... Get him a promotion to Europe and you no longer have to pay for him..

Xenophile

Skid X wrote: »

He suits BBC Radio 2 much better than 2FM, he will probably end up going there full time sooner or later.

Would agree, his relaxed style came across very well. Not normally my type of listening but went to the BBC Player to hear how he was doing. God knows it would be great to have a good ambassador for our country on BBC. Dare I say it, following the standard set by Terry Wogan who endeared many English people to the Irish when it was really needed.

Of course Tubs and Terry Wogan have their detractors, this is just par for the course!

heybaby

Xenophile wrote: »

Would agree, his relaxed style came across very well. Not normally my type of listening but went to the BBC Player to hear how he was doing. God knows it would be great to have a good ambassador for our country on BBC. Dare I say it, following the standard set by Terry Wogan who endeared many English people to the Irish when it was really needed.

Of course Tubs and Terry Wogan have their detractors, this is just par for the course!

The only thing Tubs and Wogan have in common is that they are Irish. That is it. Wogan is light years ahead of Tubs as a broadcaster both on telly and radio. Certainly Tubs is an articulate intelligent guy but he really lacks that touch of broadcasting class that came so naturally to Eamon andrews, Wogan, Gaybo and Norton. Tubs never seems comfortable either on camera or on radio. His style is furtive and uneasy and it makes me uneasy listening to / watching him. As I said before the BEEB can not be so desperate for an irish broadcaster within their ranks as to continue to court by their own high standards a very average Irish broadcaster.

Xenophile

Just for the record Gay Byrne has said that Ryan Tubridy is a better broadcaster than himself. Obviously he holds him in the highest esteem. It is my opinion that Tubridy's star will continue to rise despite it being a retrograde step to take over Gerry Ryan's show.

heybaby

Xenophile wrote: »

Just for the record Gay Byrne has said that Ryan Tubridy is a better broadcaster than himself. Obviously he holds him in the highest esteem. It is my opinion that Tubridy's star will continue to rise despite it being a retrograde step to take over Gerry Ryan's show.

I think good ol Gaybo was being facetious when, indeed if, he said that. Many many people would contend that gaybo was the very best on this island both on the telly and on the radio, Tubs as ive said is an articulate and intelligent guy but he lacks the charisma, the likability, the people skills and the empathy great broadcasters like gaybo and wogan have so very naturally. If his latest stint on the beeb is a snapshot of his skills as a broadcaster then its been a failure as far as im concerned. The irony is that Rte have built Tubs up to be their great white hope and yet here they are allowing him to moonlight for their aristocratic neighbours.

mrshopkeeper

heybaby wrote: »

Many many people would contend that gaybo was the very best on this island both on the telly and on the radio, Tubs as ive said is an articulate and intelligent guy but he lacks the charisma, the likability, the people skills and the empathy great broadcasters like gaybo

heybaby

mrshopkeeper wrote: »

Each to his own. As Wogan said recently, at best 50% of the people will like you, the rest probably wont. Whether you like gaybo or not , you cant argue with a 50 year career and his brilliance as a broadcaster. If you asked the irish people who they rated the better broadcaster between Tubs and Gaybo, the latter would win every time.

Xenophile

Result Declared.

1) Gaybo

2) Wogan

3) Tubs

heybaby

Xenophile wrote: »

Result Declared.

1) Gaybo

2) Wogan

3) Tubs

Eh no Eamon Andrews in the top three ?? sacrilege !!!

Xenophile

heybaby wrote: »

Eh no Eamon Andrews in the top three ?? sacrilege !!!

As many younger members would not have heard of him and his name was not mentioned in this thread let's put him

Number One in the Hall of Fame Awards

Eamonn Andrews

More Music

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

I wonder how long RTE will tolerate his double-jobbing? He's hardly going to be able to consolidate his 2FM listenership if he's heading off to do programmes for BBC Radio 2 every time they come asking.

Is Ryan not entitled to holidays? He's not double jobbing for the opposition. BBC R2 serves a different market.

heybaby

More Music wrote: »

Is Ryan not entitled to holidays? He's not double jobbing for the opposition. BBC R2 serves a different market.

Ryan is clearly free to work where he likes, thats not in question. What irks myself and others is why our National Broadcaster who pay him half a million a year allow him to moonlight for an employer who in truth he would clearly much rather work for. What also irks me is why our own national broadcaster and now the BEEB for whom i have much respect, are so fascinated in Tubs, a very average radio and tv broadcaster at best. Tubs is not a popular draw with the irish public. The Late Late name will automatically attract viewers much in the same way as Fair city regularly and quite mystifyingly attracts droves of viewers despite it being woeful. Tubs' true currency can be found in his plummeting radio listenership figures , despiite this the beeb are indulging him and themselves in their desire for a modern day wogan.

JonathanAnon

heybaby wrote: »

Ryan is clearly free to work where he likes, thats not in question. What irks myself and others is why our National Broadcaster who pay him half a million a year allow him to moonlight for an employer who in truth he would clearly much rather work for.

yeah but I think the crux of the issue is that his shows here are extremely poor... The LLS Show would have a stable viewership even if Brian Ormond was presenting it, but if you judge the entertainment value of this show compared to The Saturday Night Show, then it comes a very far second. His own radio show has plummetted as well.. When it was shown that his JNLR figures were so bad, an ultimatum should have been put to him to focus on improving the shows he is currently presenting, not the show he aspires to having on the BBC.

ghiertal

More Music wrote: »

Is Ryan not entitled to holidays? He's not double jobbing for the opposition. BBC R2 serves a different market.

He said in October 2011 that he couldn't present a three hour radio show because of "health levels" and that the extra hour would put him under too much strain, so why is he working for another organisation during his holidays? Also last year he took fifteen weeks off from presenting his 2FM programme so he must have quite a high sense of entitlement.

But he admitted to having reservations about being physically and mentally capable of meeting even heavier demands of presenting a longer radio show. He said: "It's quite heavy going doing the Late Late Show and the radio show. It takes enormous energy. Another hour on the radio show could be quite daunting on health levels. It would be a huge strain."

http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/tubridy-vows-to-fight-back-from-ratings-disaster-27992617.html

Aidric

JonathanAnon wrote: »

but if you judge the entertainment value of this show compared to The Saturday Night Show, then it comes a very far second.

lol

heybaby

ghiertal wrote: »

He said in October 2011 that he couldn't present a three hour radio show because of "health levels" and that the extra hour would put him under too much strain, so why is he working for another organisation during his holidays? Also last year he took fifteen weeks off from presenting his 2FM programme so he must have quite a high sense of entitlement.

But he admitted to having reservations about being physically and mentally capable of meeting even heavier demands of presenting a longer radio show. He said: "It's quite heavy going doing the Late Late Show and the radio show. It takes enormous energy. Another hour on the radio show could be quite daunting on health levels. It would be a huge strain."

http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/tubridy-vows-to-fight-back-from-ratings-disaster-27992617.html

Wow 15 weeks ? so the guts of 4 months a year and he's paid half a million euro a year which equates to 13k a week of work !!! its utterly ludicrous!! Its the idiots in Montrose that own the purse that are responsible. Its also the buffoons in the government that allow the situation to persist in that they allow RTE to avail of both license fee and advertising revenue. Even the BEEB only draw on one source of revenue via the license fee. You would think that RTE for 13k a week would at least be able to claim exclusivity to Tubs services and you might think out of loyalty and the knowledge that he was exceptionally lucky to be earning so much cash that he might commit himself to RTE and them only ? Apparently not. Despite falling listenership figures and despite his 13k a week wage, he decides to push his luck and go courting the BEEB.

You know its easier to write BBC

Btr

I heard a bit of the BBC 2 show on Friday and thought it was awful. I don't listen to his 2fm show but on the BBC he spoke way too quickly and his style ain't Radio 2 like. I'm assuming if he were to go to the Beeb full time , they think they'd mould him into the style they want. That said they obviously haven't rushed in with a major offer or he'd be gone

heybaby

Btr wrote: »

I heard a bit of the BBC 2 show on Friday and thought it was awful. I don't listen to his 2fm show but on the BBC he spoke way too quickly and his style ain't Radio 2 like. I'm assuming if he were to go to the Beeb full time , they think they'd mould him into the style they want. That said they obviously haven't rushed in with a major offer or he'd be gone

Very salient point there. The BEEB have trialled him several times now so clearly arent convinced to make the move to offer him something permanent. why he continues to speak so quickly despite all his years working in media s competely mystifying.

Rebelheart

Skid X wrote: »

If he was that bad why would they keep asking him back (in high profile slots)?

He suits BBC Radio 2 much better than 2FM, he will probably end up going there full time sooner or later.

Finally, all that British royal blood he likes to tell us about is going to come in handy!

I wish him well. I never listen to him, but I heard him interviewing a couple of people on Radio 1 years ago and he was sensitive, polite and kind. That's worth something in my book (but not above €100k per year).

RabbleRouser2k

JonathanAnon wrote: »

yeah but I think the crux of the issue is that his shows here are extremely poor... The LLS Show would have a stable viewership even if Brian Ormond was presenting it, but if you judge the entertainment value of this show compared to The Saturday Night Show, then it comes a very far second. His own radio show has plummetted as well.. When it was shown that his JNLR figures were so bad, an ultimatum should have been put to him to focus on improving the shows he is currently presenting, not the show he aspires to having on the BBC.

Now now, that is just insulting to every half decent presenter out there. Brian Ormond is the very definition of wooden. He is so obsessed with himself and Pippa, and how the world revolves around their perma-tanned, perma-white teeth non-personalities. Anything he/ she appears on, is like a black hole sucking the very life out of the show/ the viewers. Their biggest fans are themselves.

Ah Ormond, who was in 2 or 3 boybands, followed by Popstars, Pop Idol, and You're a Star. I suppose he is a decent electrician, the job he first trained for.