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Saab 93 hard to start

  • 02-04-2013 10:45pm
    #1
    richardsheil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭


    Hi,
    my brother in law's Saab 9-3 is getting hard to start. 2005 120 bhp 8 valve diesel with 120,000 miles.

    He said it had been hard to start for a week or two with an error message relating to water in fuel filter.

    Tonight, when I went to start it, the message on the screen said that the traction control system had a problem, (can't remember exact words)

    Car has failed to start and the battery is flat after perhaps 1 minute at most of turning over.
    Anybody got any suggestions? My thoughts are that a weak battery can cause all sorts of mayhem and I plan to visit my motor factor to see if the battery is on the way out.

    Failing that I was thinking that maybe the glow plugs were not good. Do they throw up a code? No illuminate light as yet, but I have not read the codes yet.

    Any suggestions gratefully received. Thanks


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  • #2
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    richardsheil wrote: »
    He said it had been hard to start for a week or two with an error message relating to water in fuel filter.

    ...that light is there for a reason you know. Water in fuel and high pressure injection pump are not a good combination.

    Hope the pump is not irreversibly damaged by now.


  • #3
    shamwari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭shamwari


    samih wrote: »
    ...that light is there for a reason you know. Water in fuel and high pressure injection pump are not a good combination.

    Hope the pump is not irreversibly damaged by now.
    A battery with low volts can cause weird and wonderful warning lights to display spuriously. OP, go with your initial hunch and check the battery and charging system first, and take it from there.

    I don't know if the glow plugs will produce a fault codes (I believe it does where the same engine is used in a Fiat), and even so, they may not be EOBD ones and therefore unlikely to appear on a generic scan tool.


  • #4
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    richardsheil wrote: »
    My thoughts are that a weak battery can cause all sorts of mayhem and I plan to visit my motor factor to see if the battery is on the way out.
    This would be my first port of call too.


  • #5
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    shamwari wrote: »
    A battery with low volts can cause weird and wonderful warning lights to display spuriously. OP, go with your initial hunch and check the battery and charging system first, and take it from there.

    I don't know if the glow plugs will produce a fault codes (I believe it does where the same engine is used in a Fiat), and even so, they may not be EOBD ones and therefore unlikely to appear on a generic scan tool.

    Btdt - have the tee-shirt.

    Battery and check the alternator - mine needed a rebuild. Low voltages drive the electronics potty.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #6
    richardsheil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    New battery installed. News tomorrow when cold.


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  • #7
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    richardsheil wrote: »
    New battery installed. News tomorrow when cold.

    ...and ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #8
    richardsheil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    Problems solved. Thanks


  • #9
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Can you elaborate on the solution in case someone else had a similar problem?
    Was it the new battery?


  • #10
    richardsheil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    galwaytt wrote: »
    ...and ?

    New battery did the trick. All symptoms gone.


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