Gait Analysis

Ag23

Hi,

Can anyone recommend a good place in Dublin(preferable city but willing to travel) that do gait analysis?

Got a pair of Asics after gait analysis in Elverys in town about 2 months ago not having used them much and getting blisters and calves cramping now every time I use them.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ososlo

Amphibian King in Ballymount

http://www.base2race.ie/stores/amphibian-king/

Only place to go. they'll sort you out. Well worth the little trip out.

Finnt

Haven't been to amphibian king but have heard loads of good things about them,
I got gait analysis done in elverys too and got a pair of asics loads of blisters and foot pain since!

vitani

I found Runways on Parnell Street to be good. I bought a pair of Brooks there in January and have had no problems with them at all.

Rogue Runner

Cant recommend Amphibian King enough.

Murph_D

Ososlo wrote: »

Amphibian King in Ballymount. Only place to go. they'll sort you out. Well worth the little trip out.

Rogue Runner wrote: »

Cant recommend Amphibian King enough.

I had gait analysis done there about a year ago and they put me in a support shoe. A year later another reputable shop in Dublin city centre puts me in a neutral shoe.

Have I corrected or is one of the expert shops wrong?

sconhome

murphd77 wrote: »

Have I corrected or is one of the expert shops wrong?

It is possible that someone has got it wrong.

It's unusual to see somone go from a support shoe to a neutral shoe over the course of a year, although not impossible depending on the frequency and distances of runs being done.

The important questions are:
how did the initial shoe work out for you?
how are the current shoes working out?
is there a difference in your experience of either?

What are the shoes (Brand and model) that you were in and are in?

spurscormac

I believe it's possible to move from support to neutral, I've done it.
If you are a heel striker who migrates to a forefoot strike, this will likely reduce if not eliminate the pronation - at least it did in my case.

Granted, I had done the chi running course and was looking to change my gait on that basis, but I went from using Asics 21XX & DS Trainers to a neutral shoe.

I'm off down the minimal route now, but that's a whole other discussion.

Murph_D

amphkingwest wrote: »

The important questions are:
how did the initial shoe work out for you?

Very well. I had two pairs, used the first pair training for DCM 2012. Bought a second pair which i am still using - just ran a Half in them at the weekend. But they have nearly 900 km on them now. I did feel that the second pair were less comfortable than the first, even though they were an identical shoe. But no injuries or problems.

I have amassed 1,600k (1,000 miles) between the two pairs.

how are the current shoes working out?

Too early to tell. They are lighter and feel like not as cushioned. Could be my imagination.

is there a difference in your experience of either?

See above. Have only used the new pair for a couple of short runs, still breaking in.

What are the shoes (Brand and model) that you were in and are in?

Original - Saucony Progrid Omni 10
New pair - Saucony Powergrid Triumph 9.

Thanks for your help.

Ron Burgundy II

I got a gait analysis carried out at the Physio Company in Cork but have locations all over the country. Had to get insoles made expensive things but running is much better since.

Ag23

Went out to Amplibian King, couldn't recommend the place enough, they really do know their stuff and are more than willing to put the time into you and examine all angles!

mush500

Was in both branches of Amphibian king this week and think their service is brilliant- would recommend!

thirstywork2

murphd77 wrote: »

Very well. I had two pairs, used the first pair training for DCM 2012. Bought a second pair which i am still using - just ran a Half in them at the weekend. But they have nearly 900 km on them now. I did feel that the second pair were less comfortable than the first, even though they were an identical shoe. But no injuries or problems.

I have amassed 1,600k (1,000 miles) between the two pairs.


Too early to tell. They are lighter and feel like not as cushioned. Could be my imagination.


See above. Have only used the new pair for a couple of short runs, still breaking in.


Original - Saucony Progrid Omni 10
New pair - Saucony Powergrid Triumph 9.

Thanks for your help.

The Saucony triumph 9 is a year old model and the new version has been out a while now.

Murph_D

thirstywork2 wrote: »

The Saucony triumph 9 is a year old model and the new version has been out a while now.

Yes, I am aware of that, thanks.

sconhome

murphd77 wrote: »

Original - Saucony Progrid Omni 10
New pair - Saucony Powergrid Triumph 9.

Thanks for your help.

At least the Omni can be your 'go-to' shoe for longer distances if the Triumph doesn't work out over the longer runs.

I wouldn't expect to see such a dramatic change from guidance to neutral but you may find the neutrals are fine as a lighter more flexible shorter distance training shoe.

Just something to be aware of is the archs. Some people found the standard Saucony insole to rub at the instep a little. You can tape over the side of the insole if you notice anything.

Nice shoes otherwise, good luck with them.

Murph_D

Turned out the neutral shoe recommended to me by the reputable Dublin city centre specialist running shop was all wrong, according to the physio who recently treated me for a severe bout of peroneal tendonitis. She said I have a definite and obvious need for a stability shoe to help with overpronation. So be warned - even the expert shops can make bad mistakes. The bit that's hard to understand is that the "expert" ignored the information I gave about my current shoe and went ahead with his recommendation anyway. But the biggest fool, I guess, is me.

Slightly used pair of Triumph 9, anyone?

baalthor

Food for thought ...

http://www.sportspodiatryinfo.co.uk/blog/?p=409

Enduro

murphd77 wrote: »

Turned out the neutral shoe recommended to me by the reputable Dublin city centre specialist running shop was all wrong, according to the physio who recently treated me for a severe bout of peroneal tendonitis. She said I have a definite and obvious need for a stability shoe to help with overpronation. So be warned - even the expert shops can make bad mistakes. The bit that's hard to understand is that the "expert" ignored the information I gave about my current shoe and went ahead with his recommendation anyway. But the biggest fool, I guess, is me.

Slightly used pair of Triumph 9, anyone?

What makes you think your physio knows any better?

Murph_D

Enduro wrote: »

What makes you think your physio knows any better?

I suppose this is a fair question. If I'm going to trust that the physio has any special expertise at all, I suppose I would listen to her diagnosis of my gait.

Enduro

murphd77 wrote: »

I suppose this is a fair question. If I'm going to trust that the physio has any special expertise at all, I suppose I would listen to her diagnosis of my gait.

Just in case it comes across, I'm not trying to be faceasous.

Trust (faith) even is big thing to deploy with regard to your health and your running. In my own case, it doesn't cut it. The more experience I gain the more I question othodoxy (In all aspects of running, and elsewhere).

There are many modern studies out there which suggest that received wisdom on shoe design, and designating that particular running gaits should wear particular types of shoe, has no scientific basis whatsover and is little more than manufacturer marketing. This is where a lot of the modern trend towards the barefoot/minimalist style comes from. If you go with that analysis then both the retailer and your physio are talking equal but opposite rubbish, based on the same flawed theory!

I'm not saying that any of them are right or wrong. I'm just saying that all their advice (anyone's advice in fact, including mine) should be questioned, not just accepted. I've heard plenty of highly qualified proffesionals give advice which I know from my own experience to be 100% wrong.

thewolf_ie

Before support shoes injuries didn't exist. Well to the extent they do know. In my short running life I think it is shoes that weaken us and the lack of exercise that makes us even weaker. Put on top of this people running way to hard for their current ability. Running should be natural and easy in my opinion.