Food waste

dxhound2005

I got a fax by mistake today, it should have gone to a supermarket. There is a list of the number of certain bakery products sold in a branch over a 3 week period. And a column called "Waste". I assume waste means thrown away but if anyone here works in a supermarket they might know different. If it is thrown away it is gives the lie to an impression that I had that supermarkets were very good at planning their stock.

Number sold and number waste in brackets.

French Stick 831 (318)
Petit Pan 502 (543)
Demi Baguette 843 (275)
Croissant 456 (219)
Muffin 464 (112)
Scone 890 (213)
Danish 185 (19)
Choc Donut 191 (91)
Jam Donut 212 (108)

fussyonion

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s8n

Is there a point here ?

Sky King

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I got a fax by mistake today, )

Should it have gone to 1992?

james142

You've made me hungry. Cheers for that... now I have to get outta my seat.

lkionm

Hmmmm 'bout three fiddy?

Dwork

s8n wrote: »

Is there a point here ?

Yes there is. Food waste is a HUGE issue. If there was any perception of the thousands of tonnes of perfectly good food dumped every week in Ireland, while people go hungry, there'd be fock all done. Because that's the way it has been for decades. My Missus worked as a manager in a huge food distribution center. Every week, skiploads of good food was dumped as it was short dated/cosmetic damage/ whatever. She tried to arrange collection by Charities etc, but it didn't work due to litigious cnuts looking for a fast buck, but this food should, to some extent, find it's way into the empty stomachs of people in genuine need. Like the dumping of perfectly good fish overboard, dead, as some deranged "quota" has been met, it's a sinful waste.

Banjo String

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I got a fax by mistake today, it should have gone to a supermarket. There is a list of the number of certain bakery products sold in a branch over a 3 week period. And a column called "Waste". I assume waste means thrown away but if anyone here works in a supermarket they might know different. If it is thrown away it is gives the lie to an impression that I had that supermarkets were very good at planning their stock.

Number sold and number waste in brackets.

French Stick 831 (318)
Petit Pan 502 (543)
Demi Baguette 843 (275)
Croissant 456 (219)
Muffin 464 (112)
Scone 890 (213)
Danish 185 (19)
Choc Donut 191 (91)
Jam Donut 212 (108)

In Australia (Brisbane in particular) the backpacker hostels used to get bread /cake deliveries from the supermarket bakeries etc on a near nightly basis.

I suppose over there, the ethos was, most backpackers would have very limited funds (i certainly did at times) but it was better the goods be eaten, than thrown away.

It was usually in the communal kitchen each evening around sixish, free to whomever wanted to avail of it.

With the rise in soup kitchens, and poverty as a whole in Ireland, we should follow suit.

It's better than simply 'wastage' imo

ben.schlomo

SamHall wrote: »

In Australia (Brisbane in particular) the backpacker hostels used to get bread /cake deliveries from the supermarket bakeries etc on a near nightly basis.

I suppose over there, the ethos was, most backpackers would have very limited funds (i certainly did at times) but it was better the goods be eaten, than thrown away.

It was usually in the communal kitchen each evening around sixish, free to whomever wanted to avail of it.

With the rise in soup kitchens, and poverty as a whole in Ireland, we should follow suit.

It's better than simply 'wastage' imo

Pretty standard waste figures bar the demi baguette one which is woeful.

The whole health and safety overload here puts a stop to giving out of date food waste to charities in this country.

lkionm

How do you still have a fax machine?

December2012

lkionm wrote: »

How do you still have a fax machine?

Obviously he refuses to throw things out!

Dwork

lkionm wrote: »

How do you still have a fax machine?

I'll have you know I still have a Fax machine as well. It keeps the garage door from blowing open. Very handy.

dxhound2005

lkionm wrote: »

How do you still have a fax machine?

It's in an office. I won't mention the name of the supermaket chain but they are still using fax so it is not completly outmoded.

Banjo String

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It's in an office. I won't mention the name of the supermaket chain but they are still using fax so it is not completly outmoded.

I too deal with a supermarket in a daily basis, they too prefer fax to communicate with me.

Prob the same one id guess.

Peregrine

Was in Subway the other day

The man was doing a delivery and he got the order wrong..it was 2 fully filled footlong subs and he just threw it in the bin

We're not talking about out of date food here, he just made the wrong sandwichso he thre it out. Regardless of the toppings, most people on the que would buy it for half the price and there were people living on the street outside, just don't see the point in throwing away food, something they would've charged €12 for

lkionm

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Was in Subway the other day

The man was doing a delivery and he got the order wrong..it was 2 fully filled footlong subs and he just threw it in the bin

We're not talking about out of date food here, he just made the wrong sandwichso he thre it out. Regardless of the toppings, most people on the que would buy it for half the price and there were people living on the street outside, just don't see the point in throwing away food, something they would've charged €12 for

Or they can buy one for full price and subway make more dollarz.
They might charge 7 euro for a footlong but the reality is that all the raw materials cost a good bit less than 1.50 and thats probably pushing it.

Until you work in one of those shops, you dont realise it might cost the shop 7 cent and they sell it for 2.50.

DerekDGoldfish

Dwork wrote: »

Yes there is. Food waste is a HUGE issue. If there was any perception of the thousands of tonnes of perfectly good food dumped every week in Ireland, while people go hungry, there'd be fock all done. Because that's the way it has been for decades. My Missus worked as a manager in a huge food distribution center. Every week, skiploads of good food was dumped as it was short dated/cosmetic damage/ whatever. She tried to arrange collection by Charities etc, but it didn't work due to litigious cnuts looking for a fast buck, but this food should, to some extent, find it's way into the empty stomachs of people in genuine need. Like the dumping of perfectly good fish overboard, dead, as some deranged "quota" has been met, it's a sinful waste.

AFAIK due to presure from a number of groups, "discarding" of fish caught back into the ocean was recently banned by the EU in a change a policy.

I take your point about the wastage but if a group a people from a holeless shelter became ill due to food past its sell by date the supermarket would have a PR disaster. Its an unfortunate situation but there are no easy solutions.

ElleEm

I used to work in a supermarket, and a different charity would come in each night at the close of shop and take all the bread and cream cakes and stuff left that couldn't/ wouldn't be sold the next day. The charities were day centres, respite centres, homeless hostels etc. They would take all the bread and freeze it and use it throughout the week til their turn next week. I thought it was a great idea!

ben.schlomo

ElleEm wrote: »

I used to work in a supermarket, and a different charity would come in each night at the close of shop and take all the bread and cream cakes and stuff left that couldn't/ wouldn't be sold the next day. The charities were day centres, respite centres, homeless hostels etc. They would take all the bread and freeze it and use it throughout the week til their turn next week. I thought it was a great idea!

Recipe for disaster.

lkionm

ElleEm wrote: »

I used to work in a supermarket, and a different charity would come in each night at the close of shop and take all the bread and cream cakes and stuff left that couldn't/ wouldn't be sold the next day. The charities were day centres, respite centres, homeless hostels etc. They would take all the bread and freeze it and use it throughout the week til their turn next week. I thought it was a great idea!

Love having me a case of the runny bums in day centres and repsite centres especially when they cant go themselves.

Dwork

DerekDGoldfish wrote: »

AFAIK due to presure from a number of groups, "discarding" of fish caught back into the ocean was recently banned by the EU in a change a policy.

I take your point about the wastage but if a group a people from a holeless shelter became ill due to food past its sell by date the supermarket would have a PR disaster. Its an unfortunate situation but there are no easy solutions.

On the upside, a couple of good meals would keep them going for ages. If we could just find somwhere to jam it in.

ElleEm

lkionm wrote: »

Love having me a case of the runny bums in day centres and repsite centres especially when they cant go themselves.

The cakes were made that morning and they just wouldn't sell them the next day, they would still be safe for consumption the day after being made. Sometimes they let us eat them!

Eathrin

You'll eat your bread, mister. You wouldn't see those poor starving children in Africa throwing away their food.

spankysue

Food waste is a problem in supermarkets, I used to merchandise milk and yogurts in one chain and used to be sickened throwing stuff away 3 days before it went off, especially seeing as there was a hostel right around the corner from it.

Esoteric_

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Was in Subway the other day

The man was doing a delivery and he got the order wrong..it was 2 fully filled footlong subs and he just threw it in the bin

We're not talking about out of date food here, he just made the wrong sandwichso he thre it out. Regardless of the toppings, most people on the que would buy it for half the price and there were people living on the street outside, just don't see the point in throwing away food, something they would've charged €12 for

Had something similar happen in a fast food place I worked in.

I made 2 large pizzas for a customer order. Customer decided as they were cooking that she didn't want to wait for them anymore (typical cnut retail customer). I asked if any staff wanted any of the pizzas (we were allowed have any waste or extra food before throwing it out), nobody wanted them. So, I sliced them up, asked a manager (a new guy, really nice bloke) could I give them to a group of homeless people outside, as it was píssing rain and was absolutely baltic outside and I felt bad for them. He let me, so I went out and gave them the pizzas. They were seriously grateful and happy.

Next day, I got a verbal warning for giving away free food after I was seen handing out the wasted food to homeless people. :mad:

FizzleSticks

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orestes

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Had something similar happen in a fast food place I worked in.

I made 2 large pizzas for a customer order. Customer decided as they were cooking that she didn't want to wait for them anymore (typical cnut retail customer). I asked if any staff wanted any of the pizzas (we were allowed have any waste or extra food before throwing it out), nobody wanted them. So, I sliced them up, asked a manager (a new guy, really nice bloke) could I give them to a group of homeless people outside, as it was píssing rain and was absolutely baltic outside and I felt bad for them. He let me, so I went out and gave them the pizzas. They were seriously grateful and happy.

Next day, I got a verbal warning for giving away free food after I was seen handing out the wasted food to homeless people. :mad:

Similar thing happened to me but from the other perspective. I worked in a fast food place and would usually take the stuff at the end of the night to give to homeless folks on the way home. I'd been doing it for ages and the management knew about it, once it was all recorded as waste and the stock-books added up they were fine with it.

A new shift manager was brought in from a different branch and tried to nail me for theft after seeing me on camera putting food in my bag at the end of a shift. Rather than just ask me about it or anything he tried to be a slimy corporate bastard, called me into the office in front of the store manager the next day and tried to hang me to the boss. The store manager said she would deal with it, did nothing to me, and had him shipped back to his old store because he "wouldn't fit in with the ethos of my current team". For a crappy job she was an awesome boss.

In Exile

SamHall wrote: »

In Australia (Brisbane in particular) the backpacker hostels used to get bread /cake deliveries from the supermarket bakeries etc on a near nightly basis.

I suppose over there, the ethos was, most backpackers would have very limited funds (i certainly did at times) but it was better the goods be eaten, than thrown away.

It was usually in the communal kitchen each evening around sixish, free to whomever wanted to avail of it.

With the rise in soup kitchens, and poverty as a whole in Ireland, we should follow suit.

It's better than simply 'wastage' imo

I've noticed it here with the local Baker Delight. Every evening a guy from some soup kitchen as the bakery is closing and loads packs an SUV full of bread to the point he can't close some of the doors.

It is great that the bakery does it, but at the same time it is an absolute complete waste by a business to be making so much. There is another Bakers Delight a suburb over and I know they dump everything into a skip each day

Rabies

lkionm wrote: »

Hmmmm 'bout three fiddy?

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Chinasea

There was nothing on that list that was life threatening if the shop was to run out. Really, why are they offer ordering? Why bring about WASTE.

That is the sham.

Have you been into any of those cheap Chinese buffets in town where people heap, I mean HEAP there plates full and leave heaps behind. It is disgusting.

What's with grabben handful's of serviettes and leaving them behind on the table with slops over them - again no consideration whatsoever given to the waste, same goes for anything free like, butter, jams, sugars, and eh water...

qaf

Chinasea wrote: »

There was nothing on that list that was life threatening if the shop was to run out. Really, why are they offer ordering? Why bring about WASTE.

That is the sham.

Sounds crazy until you realize that a store not having something once or twice is potentially enough to change a customers perception or send them into another store and permanently change their store preference. This is especially risky if it a new customer and they don't find something stocked. Easier and cheaper to overstock and throw away.

rubadub

They should feed it to their carrier pigeons.

lkionm

Rabies wrote: »

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Thanks brah