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head wind..

  • 24-03-2013 12:01pm
    #1
    booboo31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭


    hi all.i ran a 10 miler in training this morning in 1hr and 10 mins.i done the last five kms in 21 mins into a strong head wind.im wondering can people in the know on here give me an indication on how much time i could have lost in that 5 km due to head wind...im also going for a personel best in limerick in the full marathon,my current pb is 03.38 which i achieved last week in tralee.can anyone advice me on my potential for limerick and a strategy to achieve it...thanks to all...:)


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  • #2
    BenMicheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭BenMicheal


    I think thats a bit of a how long is a bit of string type question?

    To know exactly you would need to know the wind speed.


  • #3
    booboo31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭booboo31


    BenMicheal wrote: »
    I think thats a bit of a how long is a bit of string type question?

    To know exactly you would need to know the wind speed.
    ok put it another way,im not an expert on wind speed and i didnt have equipment on me to measure it but it was strong and it did feel like i had to force the pace into it...


  • #4
    ger664
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭ger664


    You do understand the concept of recovery. You are 7 days after a marathon and you just run a 70 Min 10 Miler. Either you are in great shape and 3:38 in Tralee was very soft for a marathon or you are heading for a very hard day in Limerick.


  • #5
    booboo31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭booboo31


    ger664 wrote: »
    You do understand the concept of recovery. You are 7 days after a marathon and you just run a 70 Min 10 Miler. Either you are in great shape and 3:38 in Tralee was very soft for a marathon or you are heading for a very hard day in Limerick.
    im in top shape fitness wise but i do agree that a little bit more rest wudnt go astray eventhough i dont feel tired after that run today....


  • #6
    KielyUnusual
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭KielyUnusual


    There's a good bit of research into this I would imagine. The one study I do remember was in Running Lore by Noakes. It compares the effects of running in to a headwind and running with a tailwind. Unsurprisingly, as I'm sure your own running experience will tell you, the gains made with a tail wind are cancelled out and then some by running into the same headwind. I can't remember the exact figures but it was dramatic.

    The link below is from a 1971 study. It's got some good figures on the subject and also shows tangible evidence for the gains to be made when drafting in a race.

    Into the Wind

    My own experience from running into the wind in races and in training is that you will lose some time but it's not going to be anything incredibly dramatic.


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  • #7
    booboo31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭booboo31


    KielyUnusual wrote: »
    There's a good bit of research into this I would imagine. The one study I do remember was in Running Lore by Noakes. It compares the effects of running in to a headwind and running with a tailwind. Unsurprisingly, as I'm sure your own running experience will tell you, the gains made with a tail wind are cancelled out and then some by running into the same headwind. I can't remember the exact figures but it was dramatic.

    The link below is from a 1971 study. It's got some good figures on the subject and also shows tangible evidence for the gains to be made when drafting in a race.

    Into the Wind

    My own experience from running into the wind in races and in training is that you will lose some time but it's not going to be anything incredibly dramatic.
    thank you.ive waited a while for someone to give me a useful guide on head wind and i got it...cheers


  • #8
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    KielyUnusual wrote: »
    There's a good bit of research into this I would imagine. The one study I do remember was in Running Lore by Noakes. It compares the effects of running in to a headwind and running with a tailwind. Unsurprisingly, as I'm sure your own running experience will tell you, the gains made with a tail wind are cancelled out and then some by running into the same headwind. I can't remember the exact figures but it was dramatic.

    The link below is from a 1971 study. It's got some good figures on the subject and also shows tangible evidence for the gains to be made when drafting in a race.

    Into the Wind

    My own experience from running into the wind in races and in training is that you will lose some time but it's not going to be anything incredibly dramatic.

    The additional loss comes from having to run longer for the miles into the wind. Meaning if you ran an out and back 2 miler, you might run 5:30 with the wind and 6:30 against the wind - you're running for an extra minute at the slower pace.


  • #9
    booboo31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭booboo31


    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    The additional loss comes from having to run longer for the miles into the wind. Meaning if you ran an out and back 2 miler, you might run 5:30 with the wind and 6:30 against the wind - you're running for an extra minute at the slower pace.
    my 10 mile run today with the wind was around 3.30 pace or a little better and with 5kms to go i pushed it but it was into the wind on the way back..you know yourself you dont take much notice of wind until its head on..i got a nice surprise on the five mile turn may i tell u...


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