Beale V Vuna

trouttrout

Worth noting that Danny Cipriani, Beale and Quade Cooper are all good friends, and have all been involved in a string of issues like this

WALLABIES Kurtley Beale and Cooper Vuna will be sent home from South Africa after an alleged late-night fight.

The Melbourne teammates faced a hastily-convened investigation after revelations the pair clashed on a bus trip to the team hotel early this morning.

It has since emerged Beale and Vuna struck each other, while Beale is also alleged to have hit Melbourne captain Gareth Delve.

In a sign of high tensions, Beale and Vuna have been booked to fly back to Australia on separate flights later today.

Both players face heavy punishment after breaching club guidelines in terms of accepted behaviour and use of social media.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby-gold/rebels-investigating-incident-on-bus-following-record-super-rugby-loss-in-south-africa/story-fndpt9s1-1226604431354

danthefan

Vuna was on twitter saying Beale had decked him, tweets deleted now.

trouttrout

Ya it's in the bottom of the article there, worth reading the full thing. Beale strikes me as a bit of a tool

CatFromHue

I don't this has anything to do with Cipriani and Cooper, neither of them have fought with team-mates or fighting at all I think.

trouttrout

CatFromHue wrote: »

I don't this has anything to do with Cipriani and Cooper, neither of them have fought with team-mates or fighting at all I think.

No but they all have had different disciplinary issues though. Seem to be a flock of eejets

trouttrout

CatFromHue wrote: »

I don't this has anything to do with Cipriani and Cooper, neither of them have fought with team-mates or fighting at all I think.

No but they all have had different disciplinary issues though. Seem to be a flock of eejits

Kiwi_knock

Well Cirpiani's contract with the Rebels was cancelled early because he was seen as a bad influence on Beale and O'Connor. Beale has gone a bit wild over the last few years, not sure if he will have a career with the Rebels after this.

bamboozle

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Well Cirpiani's contract with the Rebels was cancelled early because he was seen as a bad influence on Beale and O'Connor. Beale has gone a bit wild over the last few years, not sure if he will have a career with the Rebels after this.

I'd take him at Leinster in an instant. Next stop toulan though I'd wager

trouttrout

He'll go Tah's or to rugby league according to the article

Kiwi_knock

Injuries and moving to the Rebels was his undoing. At the Tahs he looked like the best FB in the world, at the moment he is a long way from that. A move back would probably suit him.

.ak

Having a spat with teammates is one thing, tweeting it is another thing all together. What was he thinking?

toomevara

.ak wrote: »

What was he thinking?

Not very much as is the norm with a lot of these prima-donnas of late. Hate seeing this craic in rugby. As you say, bust up with a team mate, so what, happens all the time, but going on social media in the aftermath? Gimme strength. Some of these guys' delusions of grandeur are hitting new heights

CatFromHue

toomevara wrote: »

Not very much as is the norm with a lot of these prima-donnas of late. Hate seeing this craic in rugby. As you say, bust up with a team mate, so what, happens all the time, but going on social media in the aftermath? Gimme strength. Some of these guys' delusions of grandeur are hitting new heights

I'm genuinely happy camera phones, smart phones, and social media weren't around when I was a kid.

CatFromHue

trouttrout wrote: »

No but they all have had different disciplinary issues though. Seem to be a flock of eejets

Cooper and Cipriani have nothing to do with what happened last night so I don't see the point in mentioning them.

toomevara

CatFromHue wrote: »

I'm genuinely happy camera phones, smart phones, and social media weren't around when I was a kid.

Amen to that, but 'professional' sportsmen obviously need to have a professional attitude to the use of social media. I mean shipping 60+ points, then heading out to a night spot (jaysis after that think I'd have stayed in the hotel) and having bust ups on coaches and playing it all out on twitter...crivens, not a good look....

CatFromHue

toomevara wrote: »

Amen to that, but 'professional' sportsmen obviously need to have a professional attitude to the use of social media. I mean shipping 60+ points, then heading out to a night spot (jaysis after that think I'd have stayed in the hotel) and having bust ups on coaches and playing it all out on twitter...crivens, not a good look....

Yeah I agree, it was stupid for all parties.

Nice use of the word crivens too :pac:

subfreq

AS an aussie rugby fan articles like this are super depressing. Beale has the talent to be the best in the world, real shame if he wastes it.

Swiwi

I could bring out the Australians are criminals jibe, but that would be poor taste, and against the forum charter. However, Beale certainly has a history of such incidents, it's only his precocious talent that lends itself to a forgiving hand from the ARFU...but there's only so far you can go.

thomond2006

Swiwi wrote: »

I could bring out the Australians are criminals jibe, but that would be poor taste, and against the forum charter. However, Beale certainly has a history of such incidents, it's only his precocious talent that lends itself to a forgiving hand from the ARFU...but there's only so far you can go.

You just did! :pac:

toomevara

subfreq wrote: »

AS an aussie rugby fan articles like this are super depressing. Beale has the talent to be the best in the world, real shame if he wastes it.

Its the old "talent/discipline" equation. Would you rather be a mercurial, fantastically talented but ill-discplined player who burns out rather than fades away or an honest journey-man who through discipline and application is greater than the sum of his parts?..alas rugby is littered with these guys...Sometimes all it takes is the right coach/set-up (some like Brian Noble in RL have real talent for bringing the best out of difficult players) or indeed, as in the case of the great Jason Robinson, who's early career was littered with drunken insubordination and unsavoury incidents, the intervention of the big coach in the sky himself....

The demon drink and rugby's entrenched drinking culture has a lot to do with it too. There are guys like Gavin Henson and Danny Care who are problem drinkers and who get themselves in trouble when they drink and should stay well away from it...and if you think its bad in Union, Aussie RL is cursed with a deeply destructive drinking culture which has seriously limited the careers of many damn fine players...

justsomebloke

OK a lot of borderline comments so please keep it civil

[Jackass]

I'd be happy enough to take Beale on a year or two deal if he wanted to get out of there and clear his head. Could be a decent replacement for Nacewa, and if we could get his head together, he's potentially one of the most lethal players in the world. Take a punt on him? Given the potential pay-off, I would. Himself and Le Roux as a project player. No bother.

Swiwi

[Jackass] wrote: »

I'd be happy enough to take Beale on a year or two deal if he wanted to get out of there and clear his head. Could be a decent replacement for Nacewa, and if we could get his head together, he's potentially one of the most lethal players in the world. Take a punt on him? Given the potential pay-off, I would. Himself and Le Roux as a project player. No bother.

He's still only 24, and I imagine has a bit more to go with Aussie (at least until 2015), and is probably one of their better paid players, so I'd be surprised if he left.