Metritis in sucklers

weekendfarmer

Hi Folks, what methods do folk use to pick up metritis in sucklers?

epfff

weekendfarmer wrote: »

Hi Folks, what methods do folk use to pick up metritis in sucklers?

What is dat

weekendfarmer

An infection cows get after calving .... its the main reason why they break. Affects up 70-80% of cows !!!!

whelan1

in england they call it whites, easiest way of seeing it is to walk by your cows when they are lying down if they have a white discharge from them take a note of it... no need for temperature boluses to do that:D

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

in england they call it whites, easiest way of seeing it is to walk by your cows when they are lying down if they have a white discharge from them take a note of it... no need for temperature boluses to do that:D

Is the pink/white discharge the same thing?

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Is the pink/white discharge the same thing?

when i was in college in england we would take turns each night to check the cows , we would have to write down any cows with whites......
dunno about the pink discharge

Username John

whelan1 wrote: »

when i was in college in england we would take turns each night to check the cows , we would have to write down any cows with whites......
dunno about the pink discharge

And how were they treated for it then Whelan?

whelan1

Username John wrote: »

And how were they treated for it then Whelan?

dunno we just wrote it down in the book:D:D i am sure a pre breeding scan would pick up all these things but i stand corrected, scanning man was telling us yesterday if a cow is dirty to give her a wash out when in heat and serve at next heat

Durrus Boy

Was advised in the past to use a 2 per cent Lugol's Iodine solution if a cow was found to have white's.
Recently another vet advised to use a 20cc Alamycin & 20cc distilled water mix instead and have found this to be quite good - use this on all heifers & any cows holding afterbirth or any with whites.

Would many dairy guys wash out their cows on a routine basis??

freedominacup

Durrus Boy wrote: »

Was advised in the past to use a 2 per cent Lugol's Iodine solution if a cow was found to have white's.
Recently another vet advised to use a 20cc Alamycin & 20cc distilled water mix instead and have found this to be quite good - use this on all heifers & any cows holding afterbirth or any with whites.

Would many dairy guys wash out their cows on a routine basis??

Stopped using iodine a long time ago for this. We use about 200ml of cooled boiled water 10ml penstrep and despite anything I have to say a small amount of dettol. We have a practice of giving any cow we handle during calving a shot of LA allamycin as a preventative. The sooner you treat it the better.

td5man

freedominacup wrote: »

Stopped using iodine a long time ago for this. We use about 200ml of cooled boiled water 10ml penstrep and despite anything I have to say a small amount of dettol. We have a practice of giving any cow we handle during calving a shot of LA allamycin as a preventative. The sooner you treat it the better.

How do you give it to them? (waits for smart answer)

freedominacup

td5man wrote: »

How do you give it to them? (waits for smart answer)

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In the usual manner:D

weekendfarmer

Pity there is always messers "ruining" online forums. It would be great if there was moderators who would throw these out.

whelan1

weekendfarmer wrote: »

Pity there is always messers "ruining" online forums. It would be great if there was moderators who would throw these out.

POT KETTLE BLACK

weekendfarmer

"Farmer" who is always online ... don't have the luxury of employees doing all the work ... hence no time for nonsence

weekendfarmer

Reading article over the weekend .... seemingly density of stock in shed has a huge impact on it. Very interesting article on it from start to finish ... pm me if anyone wants the document

freedominacup

weekendfarmer wrote: »

"Farmer" who is always online ... don't have the luxury of employees doing all the work ... hence no time for nonsence

And away we go:D.

weekendfarmer

coool ... found the ignore list

whelan1

weekendfarmer wrote: »

"Farmer" who is always online ... don't have the luxury of employees doing all the work ... hence no time for nonsence

mmm some of us have smart phones! why would you ask a question if your"friends" know it all already

whelan1

weekendfarmer wrote: »

coool ... found the ignore list

yup very handy for the "messers":D

whelan1

freedominacup wrote: »

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In the usual manner:D

was asking the vet about this this morning, she used a splash of iodine and warm water, she said warm water on its own would do but the splash of iodine acts as an antiseptic....used about 12 litres of water and washed cow out 3 times:o

weekendfarmer

whelan1 wrote: »

mmm some of us have smart phones! why would you ask a question if your"friends" know it all already

??? btw ... using smartphone is being online :P

freedominacup

whelan1 wrote: »

was asking the vet about this this morning, she used a splash of iodine and warm water, she said warm water on its own would do but the splash of iodine acts as an antiseptic....used about 12 litres of water and washed cow out 3 times:o

I dunno if you're being serious enough there. I think you could try harder.

whelan1

freedominacup wrote: »

I dunno if you're being serious enough there. I think you could try harder.

what do you mean? cow also got a metriject and a shot of estrumate, i had put pessaries in her myself

whelan1

weekendfarmer wrote: »

??? btw ... using smartphone is being online :P

thought i was being ignored

weekendfarmer

whelan1 wrote: »

was asking the vet about this this morning, she used a splash of iodine and warm water, she said warm water on its own would do but the splash of iodine acts as an antiseptic....used about 12 litres of water and washed cow out 3 times:o

is there a special "syringe" or something for this?

freedominacup

whelan1 wrote: »

thought i was being ignored

Hard to do:D

weekendfarmer

whelan1 wrote: »

thought i was being ignored

not you .... your sound ... its the other messer

whelan1

weekendfarmer wrote: »

is there a special "syringe" or something for this?

a funnel and a long pipe which she inserted into the womb, flush it out....

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

a funnel and a long pipe which she inserted into the womb, flush it out....

Can you do that while using your smartphone?????? ;-)

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Can you do that while using your smartphone?????? ;-)

no i got the vet to do it while i was on my smart phone:D

td5man

weekendfarmer wrote: »

"Farmer" who is always online ... don't have the luxury of employees doing all the work ... hence no time for nonsence

Not me so,i dont have employees i prefer to exploit child labour..

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

no i got the vet to do it while i was on my smart phone:D

Theres probably an app that can do it for you.

Richk2012

Have to be very careful when washing cows out with iodine .
If it is mixed too strong it will burn the delicate tissue in the cervix .
I find Metricure is a better job .

However , ye get alot of lads thinking there doing great work washing out there cows themselves when using this , but infact they might aswell leave the metricure it in the tube , because they are not discharging the solution in the correct area inside the cow .

Unless the cow is mature , you would nearly have to wait until she is in heat to get her done IMO

Timmaay

Hmm that white discharge is certainly something I'd notice time to time, mostly as yas said following calving, however saw one of the drycows, old lady that has been dry a good while, and about 2months away from calving passing a fairly clear/white discharge today. Our 1st serving submissions wouldn't be great at all, with a large fraction of the herd served at least twice. Something I may look into!

freedominacup

Timmaay wrote: »

Hmm that white discharge is certainly something I'd notice time to time, mostly as yas said following calving, however saw one of the drycows, old lady that has been dry a good while, and about 2months away from calving passing a fairly clear/white discharge today. Our 1st serving submissions wouldn't be great at all, with a large fraction of the herd served at least twice. Something I may look into!

If you handle them treat them. Unless your sheds and hygiene facilities are medical standard you will introduce infection into her reproductive tract when you handle her, it's just a case of how much infection and how well she can cope with it. A shot of LA oxytet after calving and she'll be put of the antibiotic as soon as she's out of the dry cow tube. You will still have to wash out some of them.

weekendfarmer

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