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Did anyone hear of seal steel

  • 22-03-2013 1:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭


    Basically my head gasket has blown and prety much writen off my car because its just not worth shelling out around 800 euros to fix it.

    my mechanic today told me about this product thats new to the market. Ive never heard of it.

    any of my fellow boardie petrol heads heard of it
    http://www.steelseal.co.uk/

    I was always told if it sounds to good to be true it often is :0)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭S28382


    Yeah i seen that in the autofactors yesterday its says that it stops the need for replacing the head gasket, you put this in and let the car run for an hour and it seals up the problem, im not too sure i would trust it all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Worth a shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭canhefixit


    Basically my head gasket has blown and prety much writen off my car because its just not worth shelling out around 800 euros to fix it.

    my mechanic today told me about this product thats new to the market. Ive never heard of it.

    any of my fellow boardie petrol heads heard of it
    http://www.steelseal.co.uk/

    I was always told if it sounds to good to be true it often is :0)

    In your case were its not worth having it repaired properly the steel seal stuff is at least worth ago for all it costs and if it does work miracles report back here and we all may end up using it at some stage :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    canhefixit wrote: »
    In your case were its not worth having it repaired properly the steel seal stuff is at least worth ago for all it costs and if it does work miracles report back here and we all may end up using it at some stage :)

    That's what I was thinking. I can be the Boardie guiney pig . I was going to sell it off cheap . Needing the repairs but if I can get this done I can sell it as driving at least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 oz2013


    I have a bottle but haven't used it yet. There is a money back guarantee with it which won me over!

    Cost about €45!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko



    Read the description.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    I dunno, I find I'm generally lacking in common since.

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    I think i'd just prefer to fix the head gasket rather than throw some junk in to the cooling system.

    Don't know what it would look like when you actually go to replace the head gasket either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 656 ✭✭✭bobin fudge


    interesting comments

    http://community.cartalk.com/discussion/2118112/steel-seal-does-it-really-fix-a-head-gasket


    seems like a short term solution for cars that arent worth spending the cash on, from the views on this forum anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    And if the water is mixing with your oil:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate
    A sodium silicate repair will last two years, sometimes longer. The repair occurs rapidly, and symptoms disappear instantly. This repair only works when the sodium silicate reaches its "conversion" temperature at 100–105 °C. Contamination of engine oil is a serious possibility in situations in which a coolant-to-oil leak is present. Sodium silicate (glass particulate) contamination of lubricants is detrimental to their function.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    oz2013 wrote: »
    I have a bottle but haven't used it yet. There is a money back guarantee with it which won me over!

    Cost about €45!!
    €45 a bottle is quite expensive, especially considering that 2-3 bottles may be required. Have you read through the t&cs of the money back guarantee? I'm guessing that they make it all but impossible to get your money back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭ljpg


    this looks like a complete gimmick to me,just say you need 3 bottles of it,thats €135,that money would put a good dent in the bill for getting it done properly,its sound just like radweld and that type of rubbish,it'll block a leak along with everything else and ends up doing more harm than good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    I was talking to a couple of people about possibly putting in this seal steel and they all said if I went ahead with it and sold car and it went again very soon. The new owner finding a huge amount of that stuff in engine would probably go off the head .

    I was taking to another mechanic today who said instead of spending crazy money on fixing head gasket ( 800 od) why not just buy a 2nd hand engine from scrappy .

    I checked this out and found a Peugeot 307 engine to fit my peugeot partner for 200 . Was quoted 200 to fit on top

    No timing belt done on it and has done 90k miles . If I was keeping I'd nearly go ahead wih it but I'm just not sure it's worth the hassle and more money .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭ian87


    FIL put it into a RR sport that had a head gone. Was fine but a temporary fix unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    what car have you got, and what symptoms indicate your engien is gone, and car is written off. ???

    You may get second hand engine from scrapyard, replacing price is 250 euro (ish) depend of car. price of engine, is depend of car, what you have/had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭olcod


    I remember a few years back the head gasket went in my 98 clio, it wasn't worth getting it done but to get me out of a muddle my mechanic ordered a bottle of wonderweld and threw that into the cooling system ( after removing the thermostat as that seizing was apparently the cause of the h g blowing ) I couldn't believe it, it worked a treat and I got nearly a years worth of motoring out of it ( clocking up big mileage and even driving it to the uk and back ) before getting rid of it and it was still going perfect :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 m.t.1.0.1


    i had a camper van 4yrs ago. ordered 2 bottles if that steal seal stuff on line. it was over 100 euro. anyway the engine was 2.2 diesel so it took about a bottle and a half according to the recommended amount. i followed all instructions correctly, including rising the front of the vehicle and revving it for a prolonged length of time. to cut a long story short it was worse than useless. i ended up scrapping the camper 2 yrs later and ended up with less than what i paid for steal seal. if i just went away and got it fixed properly at the time it was going to cost 300 euro and i would have a collectable machine today worth thousands... that was my experience with steal seal. and from what i recall the money back thing was too much hassle to bother trying for as well. a pure gimmick as far as i can see. dont waste your money!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    agreed we tried it in a car that headgasket was gone and well driven,we did not get back our money as you have to read the small print=too much hassle.
    many have said it works and this customer was not going to spend money on repairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Neighbour tried it on a 135 Massey. He did the head properly about 3 months later. Waste of time.

    It's like Radweld. A temp solution.

    Buy cheap, buy twice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭BreadnBuddha


    m.t.1.0.1 wrote: »
    i had a camper van 4yrs ago. ordered 2 bottles if that steal seal stuff on line. it was over 100 euro. anyway the engine was 2.2 diesel so it took about a bottle and a half according to the recommended amount. i followed all instructions correctly, including rising the front of the vehicle and revving it for a prolonged length of time. to cut a long story short it was worse than useless. i ended up scrapping the camper 2 yrs later and ended up with less than what i paid for steal seal. if i just went away and got it fixed properly at the time it was going to cost 300 euro and i would have a collectable machine today worth thousands... that was my experience with steal seal. and from what i recall the money back thing was too much hassle to bother trying for as well. a pure gimmick as far as i can see. dont waste your money!!

    Would you not have asked for your money back through their guarantee and as a separate thing spent the money having the head fixed? Scrapping the camper two years later and losing thousands has SFA to do with chancing a cheap repair. Two different things, unrelated. If you really scrapped a valuable camper just because you'd spent 100 quid and it didn't work, some might say that was a bit of a dumb move.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Superwofy


    Oh come on,

    A modern head gasket is made up of pressed layers of steel. Realistically, nothing you put in a bottle could ever seal it up for a good period of time. The heat/cool cycles and engine heat will destroy your repair in no time.

    Not to mention that head gaskets don't blow for no reason. A warped head for example, will destroy a new head gasket too. Unless it's a K-series. In that case, yea gaskets blow for no reason :) (other than design flaw of course).


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