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False advertising ????

  • 22-03-2013 12:30pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭


    hey i am with o2, i am confused not just with o2 but every network . i am on offer 20 euro a month for umilited texts every network its great but i found out fair usage policy 5 thousand texts a month and if go over ur charged normal rate.


    What i dont get is why say unlimited if its not only go up to 5,000 aint it false advertising to customer?
    its not just o2 found out same with 3 , vodafone , tesco mobile nd so on just dont get why they cant be unlimited like said free totally no fair usage. i text alot so dont like thought if go over 5 000 i be charged when says unlimited .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »
    hey i am with o2, i am confused not just with o2 but every network . i am on offer 20 euro a month for umilited texts every network its great but i found out fair usage policy 5 thousand texts a month and if go over ur charged normal rate.


    What i dont get is why say unlimited if its not only go up to 5,000 aint it false advertising to customer?
    its not just o2 found out same with 3 , vodafone , tesco mobile nd so on just dont get why they cant be unlimited like said free totally no fair usage. i text alot so dont like thought if go over 5 000 i be charged when says unlimited .


    5000 texts in a month is so many that it might as well be unlimited. If you even come close Id be shocked.

    Its a text every 5 minutes you're awake. unless you text in single letter communication, or text while you sleep then I wouldn't worry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    5000 texts in a month is so many that it might as well be unlimited. If you even come close Id be shocked.

    Its a text every 5 minutes you're awake. unless you text in single letter communication, or text while you sleep then I wouldn't worry.


    haha ur so funny lol it more so fact i dont like them saying its unlimited when it not really that annoys me ha be more cool saying ye can go over 10 thousand texts nd still unlimited u know . but ye dont think i ever go over that amount so many but just way says unlimited when its not haha


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you get a good data plan with the network, then you won't need to worry about fair usage, especially with the likes of viber and whatsapp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    If you get a good data plan with the network, then you won't need to worry about fair usage, especially with the likes of viber and whatsapp.

    ye i heard of them but its the annoying have go on internet all time what i dont like as it takes up alot my battery since i text alot as well i dont want to be going on net all time


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    5000 free texts actually sounds more appealing to me :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    5000 free texts actually sounds more appealing to me :eek:


    lol ye its alot i suppose i just being a selfish poo ha :) my friend on a bill plan with emobile paying 30 euro a month for unlimited calls nd texts nd net all networks. nd she said hers is 10 thousand text nd minutes wooooowwwwww


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    i suppose its to stop company's using them for spam purposes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    i suppose its to stop company's using them for spam purposes.


    spam what u mean sending junk messages and all that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Florintina wrote: »
    hey i am with o2, i am confused not just with o2 but every network . i am on offer 20 euro a month for umilited texts every network its great but i found out fair usage policy 5 thousand texts a month and if go over ur charged normal rate.


    What i dont get is why say unlimited if its not only go up to 5,000 aint it false advertising to customer?
    its not just o2 found out same with 3 , vodafone , tesco mobile nd so on just dont get why they cant be unlimited like said free totally no fair usage. i text alot so dont like thought if go over 5 000 i be charged when says unlimited .

    Its simply a fair usage policy to stop people taking advantage of the network by sending spam texts, every single network has the same fair usage type policy along with the likes of internet providers.

    For example if internet providers actually supplied an unlimited amount of download capacity you'd almost certainly get idiots downloading untold amounts of rubbish they don't even need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »
    spam what u mean sending junk messages and all that?

    Thats what fair usage means. they are allowing you to use the service for texting your friends and family. Not using it the way it was intended would be 'unfair' so they limit it.

    If you genuinely text over 5k texts a month to your friends and family i am sure they would up your limits or waive the charges.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    draffodx wrote: »
    Its simply a fair usage policy to stop people taking advantage of the network by sending spam texts, every single network has the same fair usage type policy along with the likes of internet providers.

    For example if internet providers actually supplied an unlimited amount of download capacity you'd almost certainly get idiots downloading untold amounts of rubbish they don't even need.

    ah i get u now that makes sense when u say it alright i never thought about it that way people downloading more than need or sending silly things. reason for everything . how come bill pay seem have more minutes nd texts for plan to pay as u go . or is that just a better deal to get people go on bill phones?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Thats what fair usage means. they are allowing you to use the service for texting your friends and family. Not using it the way it was intended would be 'unfair' so they limit it.

    If you genuinely text over 5k texts a month to your friends and family i am sure they would up your limits or waive the charges.


    ah i get u now thanks explaining that it all makes more sense now . would u recommend bill pay i always pay as u go but sometimes wonder would bill pay be good for change?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Florintina wrote: »
    ah i get u now that makes sense when u say it alright i never thought about it that way people downloading more than need or sending silly things. reason for everything . how come bill pay seem have more minutes nd texts for plan to pay as u go . or is that just a better deal to get people go on bill phones?

    Its because on bill you sign up to a contract for a specific period of time meaning they are guaranteed your money for x number of months, whereas on PAYG they are not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    draffodx wrote: »
    Its because on bill you sign up to a contract for a specific period of time meaning they are guaranteed your money for x number of months, whereas on PAYG they are not.

    ye that is true but seems good for upgrades each yr as well. i looked at emobile there like offer 32 a month unlimted calls , texts, 15gb internet nd unlimited landline calls. what think that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »
    ye that is true but seems good for upgrades each yr as well. i looked at emobile there like offer 32 a month unlimted calls , texts, 15gb internet nd unlimited landline calls. what think that?

    what do you use? figure that out then go with what fulfils it at the cheapest cost.

    There isnt much difference between bill pay and payg in the bigger picture.

    Youll get subsidised handsets with bill pay, but a minimum contract.
    youll have to buy your own pones on payg but you dont need to meet the contract each month.

    Top up each month for a set fee with Payg and youll get extra benefits, if you miss a month then you dont get those benefits until you top up again.

    figure out exactly what you need and get the one that suits you.

    Paying 30 euro a month for 15gb or unlimited internet is pointless if you use 500mb a month.
    I rarely call anyone, ever. but I text a fair amount and use internet a lot. So Three was good, as I can combine my minutes and texts together and get unlimited internet. On the rare occasion i call someone then there are apps to help if i go near my allowance maximum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    what do you use? figure that out then go with what fulfils it at the cheapest cost.

    There isnt much difference between bill pay and payg in the bigger picture.

    Youll get subsidised handsets with bill pay, but a minimum contract.
    youll have to buy your own pones on payg but you dont need to meet the contract each month.

    Top up each month for a set fee with Payg and youll get extra benefits, if you miss a month then you dont get those benefits until you top up again.

    figure out exactly what you need and get the one that suits you.

    ye that true i text alot and dont call much so really be no point me going something so dear i guess i just get to hyper when see all these cool new deals and sometimes nice for change but till get job i shud just stick pay as u go its handy alright and no pressue if credit ran out .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »
    ye that true i text alot and dont call much so really be no point me going something so dear i guess i just get to hyper when see all these cool new deals and sometimes nice for change but till get job i shud just stick pay as u go its handy alright and no pressue if credit ran out .[/QUOTE]

    some people make a mistake here believing that they are saving money over a contract.

    "oh sure, i only top up a tenner a month"
    they usually forget the time they ran out of credit and bought 2 one month, then the "extra one or two at Christmas, and we had to top up on holiday cos it went so fast"

    I worked out that my father ( who claimed 10 a month) was on average topping up 25+ a month. so for him it was better cheaper to get a contract and a subsidised phone. instead of spending 100+ on a phone and continuing to spend more than he though on pay and go.

    Work out truthfully what you use (your phone will keep track of messages and minutes etc) and figure your best option.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Florintina wrote: »
    ye that true i text alot and dont call much so really be no point me going something so dear i guess i just get to hyper when see all these cool new deals and sometimes nice for change but till get job i shud just stick pay as u go its handy alright and no pressue if credit ran out .[/QUOTE]

    some people make a mistake here believing that they are saving money over a contract.

    "oh sure, i only top up a tenner a month"
    they usually forget the time they ran out of credit and bought 2 one month, then the "extra one or two at Christmas, and we had to top up on holiday cos it went so fast"

    I worked out that my father ( who claimed 10 a month) was on average topping up 25+ a month. so for him it was better cheaper to get a contract and a subsidised phone. instead of spending 100+ on a phone and continuing to spend more than he though on pay and go.

    Work out truthfully what you use (your phone will keep track of messages and minutes etc) and figure your best option.


    lol u have me all confused now ha i no good at figuring out what best or not cause there so much out there compare with ha. u tell me what think i just top up 20 euro each month with o2 for free texts every network i have no minutes, internet or anything eles ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Just as an aside, I noticed that under eMobile's fair usage policy they limit landline calls on their unlimited plans to 45,000 mins a month. Considering the longest months only have 44,640 mins, that's pretty good value. :D
    Prices include VAT. Fair usage policy applies of 45,000 minutes, 10,000 texts and 15GB of data a month applies to Unlimited plans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Duiske wrote: »
    Just as an aside, I noticed that under eMobile's fair usage policy they limit landline calls on their unlimited plans to 45,000 mins a month. Considering the longest months only have 44,640 mins, that's pretty good value. :D

    wow really that is really good amount alright wow, nd what price per month is that offer? is it the bill pay or pay as u go ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »


    lol u have me all confused now ha i no good at figuring out what best or not cause there so much out there compare with ha. u tell me what think i just top up 20 euro each month with o2 for free texts every network i have no minutes, internet or anything eles ????

    o2 is best for you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Florintina wrote: »

    o2 is best for you

    u think? even tough 48 go conquer like 20 a month for free text all network , free call all network , 3gb internet nd 50 mins landline calls.

    nd 10 euro a month for 100 mins network nd unlimited texts every network ?

    but meh i might well just stick with this i sick changing around dont think ever be happy ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Florintina wrote: »
    wow really that is really good amount alright wow, nd what price per month is that offer? is it the bill pay or pay as u go ?

    This is the one I was looking at. 100 any network minutes, 100 any network texts, unlimited landline calls. €14.23/month bill pay.

    http://www.emobile.ie/phonesplansmore/plans/postpay/detailsCallText/?gid=45

    Prepay plans all have the unlimited landline calls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Duiske wrote: »
    This is the one I was looking at. 100 any network minutes, 100 any network texts, unlimited landline calls. €14.23/month bill pay.

    http://www.emobile.ie/phonesplansmore/plans/postpay/detailsCallText/?gid=45

    Prepay plans all have the unlimited landline calls.

    lol oh i wud hate that plan 100 texts just i send way more than that all the time ha .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »

    u think? even tough 48 go conquer like 20 a month for free text all network , free call all network , 3gb internet nd 50 mins landline calls.

    nd 10 euro a month for 100 mins network nd unlimited texts every network ?

    but meh i might well just stick with this i sick changing around dont think ever be happy ha

    Like I said, figure out what you use. get the deal that fulfils it.
    I havent memorised every network deal, and I dont know really how much you use so Im not gonna pick one for you.

    if you dont want to put the effort in to find the best deal then stick with o2. they seem nice.
    plus they give you o2 deals, which is handy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Florintina wrote: »

    Like I said, figure out what you use. get the deal that fulfils it.
    I havent memorised every network deal, and I dont know really how much you use so Im not gonna pick one for you.

    if you dont want to put the effort in to find the best deal then stick with o2. they seem nice.
    plus they give you o2 deals, which is handy

    haha ye i seem to know alot about others one but never know which one stick with for me :). but ye u right think stay with o2 happy enough with them if ever want change prob be 48 deal as that very good as well . thanks for all ur help nd advice :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »

    haha ye i seem to know alot about others one but never know which one stick with for me :). but ye u right think stay with o2 happy enough with them if ever want change prob be 48 deal as that very good as well . thanks for all ur help nd advice :)
    no probs, if youre staying with o2 make sure you use the priority moments, they give some good discounts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Florintina wrote: »
    no probs, if youre staying with o2 make sure you use the priority moments, they give some good discounts.

    oh really i never heard them lol i must look into that nd signs up for free is it? are u with o2 as well or wat network


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »

    oh really i never heard them lol i must look into that nd signs up for free is it? are u with o2 as well or wat network

    o2 priority moments for all o2 customers. some shops, some restaurants, cinemas etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Florintina wrote: »

    o2 priority moments for all o2 customers. some shops, some restaurants, cinemas etc

    oh that sounds really good aint it and do they send u out stuff or just let u know about i t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Florintina wrote: »

    oh that sounds really good aint it and do they send u out stuff or just let u know about i t

    its all ontheir website


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Florintina wrote: »

    its all ontheir website


    cool i going log on and have a look :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    I joined emobile prepay last week, 30 a month plan, 350 mins, 350 texts and 1GB internet, unlimited mobile, meteor and landline calls, great deal in my opinion...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Fieldog wrote: »
    I joined emobile prepay last week, 30 a month plan, 350 mins, 350 texts and 1GB internet, unlimited mobile, meteor and landline calls, great deal in my opinion...

    mmm that seems good but for me i dont think like it as i text alot so the 350 wud be no good me ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Florintina wrote: »

    mmm that seems good but for me i dont think like it as i text alot so the 350 wud be no good me ha


    I use the cabbage app on Android so I also get an extra 300 webtexts, you have to have either data or WiFi network to send them though...

    It goes straight from your phone book, handy enough...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Fieldog wrote: »
    I use the cabbage app on Android so I also get an extra 300 webtexts, you have to have either data or WiFi network to send them though...

    It goes straight from your phone book, handy enough...

    i heard that alright but i dont want my internet on all the time be eating up my battery u know . say i stick with what i have now for while or mabey 48 conquer seems good


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    To use "unlimited" in a sales, you need to prove that the amount being offered is near impossible to reach for non-commerical use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    antodeco wrote: »
    To use "unlimited" in a sales, you need to prove that the amount being offered is near impossible to reach for non-commerical use.

    lol that is true and do u think 5 thousand texts is impossible ?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm with Three and pay €20 a month for "unlimited" texts (I believe their fair usage is 3000 texts?) to all networks, free calls to all networks on weekends (unsure as to what their fair usage policy is on that, but haven't gone over it yet), free calls and texts to other Three customers and "unlimited" internet (their policy is 15GB a month). This suits me perfectly, as I would use internet on my phone quite a lot; viber, whatsapp, Google maps, etc. etc.

    Sometimes I struggle to ever spend the €20 a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    Florintina wrote: »

    i heard that alright but i dont want my internet on all the time be eating up my battery u know . say i stick with what i have now for while or mabey 48 conquer seems good

    Jazus Flor..... your still at it!!

    To use Cabbage you don't need to be connected all the time..... Only when sending!!

    And you normal wifi or Data allowance will cover the connection cost, it's almost nothing in data terms.

    Certainly less than paying for texts.

    I guarantee you will not notice the Battery drain... I honestly can't figger out how you use ur phone...

    You shud take advise when given, not be asking and then finding reasons not to take the advice!!

    Really.... and read what people post.

    Sorry for giving out, but I am an old guy and getting crabby with age!!

    You take care!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    draffodx wrote: »
    Its simply a fair usage policy to stop people taking advantage of the network by sending spam texts, every single network has the same fair usage type policy along with the likes of internet providers.

    For example if internet providers actually supplied an unlimited amount of download capacity you'd almost certainly get idiots downloading untold amounts of rubbish they don't even need.

    3 Mobile give an unlimited amount of downloads on the classic max flex plan. No fair usage that I can find. Unlimited.
    40.66 euro a month for 350 flexi units and unlimited internet usage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Jazus Flor..... your still at it!!

    To use Cabbage you don't need to be connected all the time..... Only when sending!!

    And you normal wifi or Data allowance will cover the connection cost, it's almost nothing in data terms.

    Certainly less than paying for texts.

    I guarantee you will not notice the Battery drain... I honestly can't figger out how you use ur phone...

    You shud take advise when given, not be asking and then finding reasons not to take the advice!!

    Really.... and read what people post.

    Sorry for giving out, but I am an old guy and getting crabby with age!!

    You take care!!


    haha ur being a grumpy poo now no need be like that old or not :) if u dont like what i post on this then dont come here anymore haha. i ok stick with o2 now lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    Florintina wrote: »


    spam what u mean sending junk messages and all that?

    No. I think spam in this case refers to spiced ham. Mobile companies only like honey roast ham or cured ham.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    G1032 wrote: »
    3 Mobile give an unlimited amount of downloads on the classic max flex plan. No fair usage that I can find. Unlimited.
    40.66 euro a month for 350 flexi units and unlimited internet usage.

    that seem pretty good alright and is it unlimited amount of texts as well or just internet ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    Florintina wrote: »
    that seem pretty good alright and is it unlimited amount of texts as well or just internet ?

    Just unlimited data.
    350 flexi units. 1 flexi unit is 1 minute of a call or 2 text messages. Use the flexi units however you like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    G1032 wrote: »
    Just unlimited data.
    350 flexi units. 1 flexi unit is 1 minute of a call or 2 text messages. Use the flexi units however you like.

    lol i think heard of flexi unit before but i still confused how it works ha. i dont use net on phone much as i have modem at home pay for that . more of texter :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,789 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    OP this is the greatest injustice since I went to see that movie The Neverending Story.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    Florintina wrote: »
    haha ur being a grumpy poo now no need be like that old or not :) if u dont like what i post on this then dont come here anymore haha. i ok stick with o2 now lol

    Now...nowww.... :eek: I am truly shocked

    2003 I started here......2013 u started here....

    i ain't goin nowhere!!!

    I like grumpy poo...that's good!!! :p

    cya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    G1032 wrote: »
    3 Mobile give an unlimited amount of downloads on the classic max flex plan. No fair usage that I can find. Unlimited.
    40.66 euro a month for 350 flexi units and unlimited internet usage.

    Even better value for the OP as s/he would be going sim only, and thats now only €20.33 per month. http://www.three.ie/deals/sim-only.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Florintina


    Now...nowww.... :eek: I am truly shocked

    2003 I started here......2013 u started here....

    i ain't goin nowhere!!!

    I like grumpy poo...that's good!!! :p

    cya


    haha i was only messing with u sure lol i am not a meanie like u :P. i was just giving u a dose of ur own medicine being cheeky with me lol. ah now i will be on this for long time to now that started i love it nah nah ur stuck with me forever i afraid :)


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