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Fair play to the Daffodil Day collectors

  • 22-03-2013 9:28am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭


    Credit where credit's due, the Irish Cancer Society is one of the better charities out there and I just want to say Fair Play to the collectors being out on such a sh*tty day. C'mon folks, help them out, they're not chuggers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Credit where credit's due, the Irish Cancer Society is one of the better charities out there and I just want to say Fair Play to the collectors being out on such a sh*tty day. C'mon folks, help them out, they're not chuggers!

    100% agree. I always support them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries
    IRISH CANCER SOCIETY
    Chief executive: John McCormack.
    Salary 2011: €145,000.
    Expenses 2011: €1,200 up to August. Expenses costs include the cost of a company car.

    How charitable. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries



    How charitable. :rolleyes:

    Can you find figures for the collectors (which is what this thread is about)?


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries

    How charitable. :rolleyes:

    How about just one thread where we focus on the positives - which in the case of the Irish Cancer Society, very much outweigh any negatives you can find.

    They are a fantastic organisation, they do amazing things for cancer patients and for cancer research. Their volunteers should be commended.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries



    How charitable. :rolleyes:

    Probably best not to forget that without a proper CEO in the background the Irish cancer society wouldn't have grown to the size it is now.
    You have to spend money to make money,that even applies to charity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Ando's Saggy Bottom


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries



    How charitable. :rolleyes:
    Yeah because the thread was about him.

    The aul lad is out in the driving rain as we speak collecting and will do so all day. Respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    Probably best not to forget that without a proper CEO in the background the Irish cancer society wouldn't have grown to the size it is now.
    You have to spend money to make money,that even applies to charity.

    So pay one man 150k a year and nothing for those out in the rain?

    Logical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Ando's Saggy Bottom


    Zebra3 wrote: »

    So pay one man 150k a year and nothing for those out in the rain?

    Logical.
    Those out in the rain don't want anything.

    In the real world a large charity having a good CEO is more than worth the salary they're paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So pay one man 150k a year and nothing for those out in the rain?

    Logical.

    It's volunteer work for those who, well, volunteer.

    Pay your management buttons and you'll end up with those too inexperienced to run such a large organisation and who could potentially run it into the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So pay one man 150k a year and nothing for those out in the rain?

    Logical.

    The Irish Cancer Society isn't going to be run by someone down the local community hall. You need a certain business acumen to run this sort of organisation successfully, and you need to pay the correct salary to attract those types of people, otherwise they'll put their talents to use elsewhere. It's obviously not a problem as they're a successful charity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Mountjoy Mugger


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries



    How charitable. :rolleyes:

    Classic thread spoiling post. /ignore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    Really trying hard not to address the bitter bitter comment on this thread.

    We have had the need to use the overnight nurses provided by the Irish cancer society and funded entirely by daffodil day donations on a few occasions this week. My mother unfortunately passed away in the last couple of days.

    I can't praise the nurses enough for what they did and the total comfort they provided to my Mam through a few uncomfortable days for her.

    This is where the donations go.
    I hope the weather today doesn't affect donations and I'd like to thank each and every one of the volunteers and collectors for an amazing job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭mccarthy37


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So pay one man 150k a year and nothing for those out in the rain?

    Logical.
    Bill Cullen sees nothing wrong with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,554 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I give to 4 charities every month, but the CEO payment was a factor when I was deciding which ones to support. So I can see where the poster was coming from with the post, but it would be more suited to another discussion on ridiculous wage payments to Charity Management.

    What is on point though is fair play to the collectors, Cancer is a scourge and dig deep :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    The problem with charities in this country is that we have too many of them focussing on the same areas. So, instead of having two or three charities aimed at reducing homelessness, we end up with 30. All started with the noblest of intentions, but with a net result of government and private funding being spread too thin to make any of them massively effective.

    The Irish Cancer Society is a great charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Really trying hard not to address the bitter bitter comment on this thread.

    We have had the need to use the overnight nurses provided by the Irish cancer society and funded entirely by daffodil day donations on a few occasions this week. My mother unfortunately passed away in the last couple of days.

    I can't praise the nurses enough for what they did and the total comfort they provided to my Mam through a few uncomfortable days for her.

    This is where the donations go.
    I hope the weather today doesn't affect donations and I'd like to thank each and every one of the volunteers and collectors for an amazing job.

    Here here. We had to use one of the overnight nurses for my Mother towards the end of her illness. We needed help for a couple of days because none of us had the know-how of caring for someone with cancer.

    The money raised goes to very valuable services such as this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭ZzubZzub


    Ive such respect for those collecting. My Granny, God rest her, had a massive garden. She used to grow literally hundreds of daffodils and would donate them all for Daffodil Day. She would be out, even in the worst of weather, clipping them all and preparing them into bunches. Evenwhen she wasn't in the best of health.
    I always buy some, more because it reminds me of my Gran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    They had nice little metal pins every years for the last 5 years but this year I don't see any, it seems to be a small fake daffodil (with a pin type badge). Will buy one anyway but I like the pins better. Let me know if ye see any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Penny Dreadful


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Most recent figures I can find.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/question-should-top-charity-bosses-reduce-their-salaries



    How charitable. :rolleyes:

    It is not a crime to be paid to do a job. He does a good job and there is no shame in his salary.
    I think the Irish Cancer Society is a great organisation and brings a lot of help and comfort to many many people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Penny Dreadful


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So pay one man 150k a year and nothing for those out in the rain?

    Logical.

    They are willingly giving of their time for one day. They do not seek payment for this volunteer work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Guys, Zebra3 is only looking to stir ****. Ignore him/her/"it".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    Fair play to them - it is effing nasty out there today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    Rotten luck for the Cancer Society, hopefully they get some donations from their alternative channels ...

    How you can support Daffodil Day:

    Make a donation online, visit www.cancer.ie
    Phone CallSave 1850 60 60 60 to donate
    Text Daff to 50300 to donate €4 (100 per cent of your donation will go to the Daffodil Day)
    Buy a virtual daffodil on the Irish Cancer Society’s Facebook page

    http://www.thejournal.ie/daffodil-day-collections-down-50-per-cent-but-you-can-still-help-842269-Mar2013


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭coathanger


    I was a volunteer today,& it was very quiet due to the weather,I suppose,lashing rain & freezing,but most people were very generous.Unfortunately everyone knows someone who has been affected by Cancer,so dig deep everbody as its a very worthwhile cause.:)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thank you Coathanger :) you volunteered your time today and braved the nasty weather for a very worthy cause that sadly will affect most families at some stage.

    Donating by text is no hassle at all. I have text pledged twice. 1st pledge - for my family members. 2nd pledge - in honour of all the volunteers who were out today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    Thank you Coathanger :) you volunteered your time today and braved the nasty weather for a very worthy cause that sadly will affect most families at some stage.

    Donating by text is no hassle at all. I have text pledged twice. 1st pledge - for my family members. 2nd pledge - in honour of all the volunteers who were out today.

    Yes, and if you donate €4 on the text, all €4 will go to the Irish Cancer Society. Good to see, as in the past the Phone Companies and/or The Revenue Commissioners would have taken a chunk of your donation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    How about just one thread where we focus on the positives
    How about a hundred? Oh to dream...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 rhamster


    Those out in the rain don't want anything.

    In the real world a large charity having a good CEO is more than worth the salary they're paid.
    They would be better setting up a community based project because otherwise these people are only being taken advantage of to line the pockets of the CEO and all the other board members and bureacrats.Any charity that is a top down one as opposed to a bottom up one are simply profit making organizations.Sorry its just the reality.I do applaud people that set out to do good and give their time freely however the big charities in this country are totally corrupt and therefore volunteering for them is misguided.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    very commendable the ones out here in my locality, fair play..horrible plastic daffodils tho (sorr) , also was able to talk to a couple of the collectors about run from the cure, which seems to be gaining a wider audience... which is always good... fair play to anyone collecting for this charity. I am sure the ceo will know in his own heart wether he is worth his salary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭Karen23


    I dropped my son to school this morning and there was man in his 60s selling these daffodils to people stopped in cars at the traffic lights. Traffic was bad so I was there for a bit and he walked up and down the road in the pouring rain , 95% of cars bought from him. He was very polite and in no way pushy , if the driver didn't open the window he carried on walking past. I went back to collect my son at 3.30 and the same man was still there.

    Fair play to him staying there all day in that weather, and going by the 2 times I saw him he raised a lot of money today.


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