Reasonable time of the day to stop ploughing and cutting hedgerows?

vicwatson

Can I ask farmers on here what is a reasonable time to stop cutting hedgerows and ploughing fields in the day?

Bloody farmer near us has been clearing out fields for the last four months, burning all the hedgerows after cutting them, using accelerant to start the fires etc

He has been working almost every day for this period and seems to take off during the afternoon and comes back in the evening and starts at it again.

He is still going right now (22.00 hours), the drone of the diesel digger and tractors is starting to grate my gears after this long - weekends and everything, trying to get the chislers to sleep is a disaster when he is out this late.

Is this hour unreasonable.

Thanks in advance

mf240

You should ask him for a job, you dont sound like your too busy.

case 5150

leave the man alone, no hr is unraesable to work when we getting weather like this

6480

he is trying to get the his land cleaned up and ready for the year ahead and has cows calving at the same time ,

freedominacup

Step away from the keyboard and back away slowly. You still have a slim chance of getting away with no more than a slight mauling:eek:

Manoffeeling

Dear Frankie, My wife gets up at 6.30 and sometimes wakes me. Is there anything I can do?

vicwatson

Jebus people calm down.

I asked a simple question, can ye not man/women up to answer it?

Should hedgerow cutting be carried on now? Maybe a call to the authorities might shut him up?

blue5000

Why don't you have a couple of them seriously good lidl beers, turn up the tv and go asleep, or better still go out and see if he wants a hand picking stones?

vicwatson

freedominacup wrote: »

Step away from the keyboard and back away slowly. You still have a slim chance of getting away with no more than a slight mauling:eek:

Take your threats elsewhere, if you cannot be civil enough to answer my legitimate query.

royalmeath

If you dont like country life then move into the city, then you will be able to enjoy the whizz of cars passing by your semi d at all hours

pakalasa

You should be going out praising him for his hard work and offering him a cup of tea. God bless the work and all that.
If it's sympathy you want, I think you came to the wrong forum.

GRMA

Of course its unreasonable. Would it be ok for a neighbour to be building at this hour? No.

Making that much noise at this late hour is OTT, but I dont think you will get much sympathy from self entitled farmers on here I reckon.

vicwatson

pakalasa wrote: »

You should be going out praising him for his hard work and offering him a cup of tea. God bless the work and all that.
If it's sympathy you want, I think you came to the wrong forum.

No chance of you answering my question I suppose?

Can I ask farmers on here what is a reasonable time to stop cutting hedgerows and ploughing fields in the day?

whelan1

if it was stopping my kids getting to sleep, i would ask him to stop at a reasonable hour....

freedominacup

vicwatson wrote: »

Take your threats elsewhere, if you cannot be civil enough to answer my legitimate query.

I didn't threaten you in any way. TBH I couldn't care less about you or your problems with your neighbour. I was just offering you a bit of advice. If you have a similar attitude when dealing with your neighbour I can see it working out really well for you.

Your big problem is in your OP. You claim he's been working on this land every day for the past 4 months, really? It's hardly possible he was working on it every day for the past 4 weeks. Once you had that posted you were on a hiding to nothing. Everyone here has worked through the night at some point and carried on through the following day as well so what's a reasonable time to stop? in certain circumstances upto 36 hours after you started your days work.

vicwatson

freedominacup wrote: »

I didn't threaten you in any way. TBH I couldn't care less about you or your problems with your neighbour. I was just offering you a bit of advice. If you have a similar attitude when dealing with your neighbour I can see it working out really well for you.

And that goes for me to, you are obviously a lazy ass farmer NOT out working in your field till 22.00 hours

Any mature farmers here that can try give me a reasonable response to my question?

vicwatson

whelan1 wrote: »

if it was stopping my kids getting to sleep, i would ask him to stop at a reasonable hour....

It is and that's the problem, I think 22.00 hours is wayy too late to continue with farming activities.

I wonder if other farmers here can tell me if they think its responsible farming?

whelan1

there wouldnt be too many farmers arond here working at that hour but he could have an off farm job and is doing this work in his spare time

GRMA

vicwatson wrote: »

And that goes for me to, you are obviously a lazy ass farmer NOT out working in your field till 22.00 hours

Any mature farmers here that can try give me a reasonable response to my question?

Too busy moaning about subsidies I guess - as I said, an unreasonable sense of entitlement, no respect for people like yourself or the environment yet they demand taxpayers and EU money to prop up uneconomical "businesses".

There are decent farmers of course, but just look at the wagons being circled because a simple question was asked.

vicwatson

Can anyone tell me if a farmer is allowed cut hedgerow at this time of year?

Can anyone tell me if a farmer is allowed burn hedgerow? Do they need a licence?

Can anyone tell me if a farmer is allowed use allecerant if they have a licence to burn hedgerow?

newbie2

...it is an offence to cut, grub or otherwise destroy any vegetation growing in any hedge or ditch during the period beginning on 1st day of March and ending 31st day of August. Exemptions are provided from the restrictions, in the interests of agriculture and forestry. Under REPS, hedgerow maintenance is not allowed from late February to the end of August....

http://www.client.teagasc.ie/environment/natural_heritage/No_hedge_cutting_in_the_bird_nesting_season.asp

Juniorhurler

I would say when the last sod is turned would be a reasonable time to stop ploughing. Unless he is working on a headland at the gable end of your house, or you have a house with no level of sound insulation it should not be a problem. Leave the man be, he will only be a few days til crops are sown and he will be gone.

vicwatson

GRMA wrote: »

Too busy moaning about subsidies I guess - as I said, an unreasonable sense of entitlement, no respect for people like yourself or the environment yet they demand taxpayers and EU money to prop up uneconomical "businesses".

There are decent farmers of course, but just look at the wagons being circled because a simple question was asked.

Yes I must admit I didn't expect some "After Hours" type of responses to my post. I was taken aback by them.

I thought my questions and concerns were reasonable enough.

But sure...

royalmeath

vicwatson wrote: »

It is and that's the problem, I think 22.00 hours is wayy too late to continue with farming activities.

I wonder if other farmers here can tell me if they think its responsible farming?

Civil engineering projects are often carried out throughout the night in urban areas. Do you have any sort of relationship with the farmer would you not go and talk to him and explain your situation

mf240

Look really and truly there are people like you in every parish and small town up and down the country, nit picking and complaining about every move there neighbour make and falling out with everybody.

Compared to what goes on in towns and citys you should be thankfull that a dull drone of a diesal engine is all you have to put up with.

The choice is yours be reasonable with your neighbours and if your ever in trouble with something yourself, farming neighbours are always willing to help out.


Or else keep up the victor mildrew act and watch as your string, on which you hang you christmas cards on gets a little shorter every year.

vicwatson

Juniorhurler wrote: »

I would say when the last sod is turned would be a reasonable time to stop ploughing. Unless he is working on a headland at the gable end of your house, or you have a house with no level of sound insulation it should not be a problem. Leave the man be, he will only be a few days til crops are sown and he will be gone.

Didn't you read my OP?

pakalasa

It's your question that's not reasonable. What is a reasonable time to stop working in a factory? The guy is obviously under pressure to get work done. Just be patient. You could have neighbours up to a lot worst.

vicwatson

Look really and truly there are people like you in every parish and small town up and down the country, nit picking and complaining about every move there neighbour make and falling out with everybody.

Compared to what goes on in towns and citys you should be thankfull that a dull drone of a diesal engine is all you have to put up with.

The choice is yours be reasonable with your neighbours and if your ever in trouble with something yourself, farming neighbours are always willing to help out.


Or else keep up the victor mildrew act and watch as your string, on which you hang you christmas cards on gets a little shorter every year.

Thanks very much for your post, it's a very sensible post. I'm glad you posted, it's very intelligent sounding.

Juniorhurler

To burn all you need is clearance from your co. council and regional fire control. No problem at this time or any other of the year once you fill out a simple form and post it off.
Accelerant is not permitted, but if all other criteria are filled, best of luck getting anybody to follow up on this slight misdemeanour. I doubt he will even have used gallon of diesel.

vicwatson

pakalasa wrote: »

It's your question that's not reasonable. What is a reasonable time to stop working in a factory? The guy is obviously under pressure to get work done. Just be patient. You could have neighbours up to a lot worst.

You didn't read my OP either:rolleyes:

6480

vicwatson wrote: »

Didn't you read my OP?

the farmer might not even be aware that he is causing this to you at the min , talk to him first , do you live on the cavan meath boarder by any chance

Cocolola

Isn't hedgerow cutting illegal between 1st March and 31st August? Or are there exceptions for farmers like there is when visibility on roads is affected?

Juniorhurler

vicwatson wrote: »

Didn't you read my OP?

Yes. That is the time I think would be reasonable if I was under pressure to get work done and I am sure he feels the same.

vicwatson

Juniorhurler wrote: »

To burn all you need is clearance from your co. council and regional fire control. No problem at this time or any other of the year once you fill out a simple form and post it off.
Accelerant is not permitted, but if all other criteria are filled, best of luck getting anybody to follow up on this slight misdemeanour. I doubt he will even have used gallon of diesel.

According to a neighbour he used more like a tank of diesel never mind a gallon to burn all the cut hedgerow, he's been cutting hedgerow for 4 months now with his digger. I've no real problem with that per se but the working till so late at night with so many residential houses is getting on peoples nerves - not just mine.

freedominacup

Juniorhurler wrote: »

To burn all you need is clearance from your co. council and regional fire control. No problem at this time or any other of the year once you fill out a simple form and post it off.
Accelerant is not permitted, but if all other criteria are filled, best of luck getting anybody to follow up on this slight misdemeanour. I doubt he will even have used gallon of diesel.

We usually:rolleyes:(twice ever) don't bother with any form. A phonecall to 999 ask for fire service and once they are informed I think you're sorted.

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

if it was stopping my kids getting to sleep, i would ask him to stop at a reasonable hour....

Lick arse :-)

Juniorhurler

vicwatson wrote: »

According to a neighbour he used more like a tank of diesel never mind a gallon to burn all the cut hedgerow, he's been cutting hedgerow for 4 months now with his digger. I've no real problem with that per se but the working till so late at night with so many residential houses is getting on peoples nerves - not just mine.

At a guess I would say the diesel was burnt in the digger. Iys too expensive to be wasting willy nilly like that unfortunately.

1chippy

Your post seems a little exaggerated to tell you the truth, however i can see where your coming from. if its constant it would be a pain, however i dont know of an farmer who has had the weather or land to use machines for 4 months solid through the winter. If he is cutting ditches, its highly likely hes finished now. If its ploughing he will have to probably hold till he gets a dry week and then you will get a good break from the noise. It sounds like your neighbour is just trying to get his ground into shape and at least your neighbouring ground should look tidy. try and grit your teeth or even just have a quiet word and you will find that the majority of farmers will try and accomadate, but you have to be reasonable, its not exactly a 9-5 job.

vicwatson

Cocolola wrote: »

Isn't hedgerow cutting illegal between 1st March and 31st August? Or are there exceptions for farmers like there is when visibility on roads is affected?

In this case the hedgerow cutting is all between fields

td5man

6480 wrote: »

the farmer might not even be aware that he is causing this to you at the min , talk to him first , do you live on the cavan meath boarder by any chance

No smoke signals round here.

mauser77

Maybe he has a wife who's nagging him all the time about little things that don't matter like what's that man doin in his field over there how dare he work when he can and try better himself and he just wants to get away from her for awhile

newbie2

There is no specified statutory period during which certain works e.g. construction, road works, DIY etc. are prohibited.

ENFO Noise Regulations

vicwatson

Juniorhurler wrote: »

At a guess I would say the diesel was burnt in the digger. Iys too expensive to be wasting willy nilly like that unfortunately.

He was seen throwing masses of the stuff on top of the cut hedgerows (4 months worths) to get them started and use them as an accelerant.

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

vicwatson wrote: »

He is still going right now (22.00 hours), the drone of the diesel digger and tractors is starting to grate my gears after this long - weekends and everything, trying to get the chislers to sleep is a disaster when he is out this late.

Is this hour unreasonable.

Thanks in advance

To be honest vic 22.00 hrs is not late at this time of the year. My neighbours plough well into the night getting ready for the new tillage season.

Yes it can be annoying, ( especially when burning off scrub) but the guy needs to this so he cant really down tools.
What is dictating his work is the weather.

95% of the year it is probably quite around your house, so just be patient and dont go and report him. Talk to him if you are really concerned.

vicwatson

1chippy wrote: »

Your post seems a little exaggerated to tell you the truth, however i can see where your coming from. if its constant it would be a pain, however i dont know of an farmer who has had the weather or land to use machines for 4 months solid through the winter. If he is cutting ditches, its highly likely hes finished now. If its ploughing he will have to probably hold till he gets a dry week and then you will get a good break from the noise. It sounds like your neighbour is just trying to get his ground into shape and at least your neighbouring ground should look tidy. try and grit your teeth or even just have a quiet word and you will find that the majority of farmers will try and accomadate, but you have to be reasonable, its not exactly a 9-5 job.

I understand that entirely and appreciate they have a job to do.

However 4 months of drone up to 22.00 at night is getting a bit much. I expect it to all stop soon so.....

At this moment however the ploughing still contines (23.10), on a schoolnight:P

pakalasa

In fairness, he's some worker. If we had more like him, the country wouldn't be in the mess it is.

vicwatson

ZETOR_IS_BETTER wrote: »

To be honest vic 22.00 hrs is not late at this time of the year. My neighbours plough well into the night getting ready for the new tillage season.

Yes it can be annoying, ( especially when burning off scrub) but the guy needs to this so he cant really down tools.
What is dictating his work is the weather.

95% of the year it is probably quite around your house, so just be patient and dont go and report him. Talk to him if you are really concerned.

I have NO intention of reporting him.

The title of my post is "reasonable time of the day to stop ploughing and cutting hedgerows"?

And then I get attacked by some:(

td5man

royalmeath wrote: »

Civil engineering projects are often carried out throughout the night in urban areas. Do you have any sort of relationship with the farmer would you not go and talk to him and explain your situation

We had a 65 tonne digger with a rockbreaker on nightshift on the m50 now that would keep you awake,youd see the lights come on in all the apartments either side of the road and we usually didn't start until 1-2am due to traffic .

vicwatson

pakalasa wrote: »

In fairness, he's some worker. If we had more like him, the country wouldn't be in the mess it is.

How did you work that one out?

royalmeath

Vic
You are a complete whinger, instead of maning up and talking to the farmer in question you come on here crying like a little baby.
The reality is you would be afraid to walk up to the farmer in case he said boo so you come on here crying like a little girl. Go get
some balls for yourself and if you think the farmer is breaking the law go and report him to the authorities.

blue5000

OP I'm off out now to check cows calving, hope it's not too unreasonable:D Gets coat, wellies, torch.