What do you think of this gaming build?

irishrook · 20-03-2013 9:41am #1

Just give me your opinions and if you have any recommendations. I'll take them all into consideration. This is the second PC I built, The first one that cost me more then 500 euro. In-fact my budget for this was 1200 euro including monitor and speakers.

I already have a case, monitor and speakers on the way:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus
Monitor: LG Flatron IPS234V
Speakers: Logitech Speaker System Z323

The rest I am currently saving for and will have enough to order by mid April:

OS: MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950, 3GB GDDR5
RAM: 8GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
PSU: XFX PRO650W Core Edition Full Wired Power Supply
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Pro3, Socket 1155, ATX
SSD: Samsung SSD 840 120GB SATA 6Gb/s
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Disk Drive: Samsung SH-224BB

So just let me know what you think.
Also I plan on overclocking a bit.

weisses · 20-03-2013 10:32am

Looks okay to me

Only thing i would consider is a bigger ssd 250/256

irishrook · 20-03-2013 11:01am

I would but Im at the peak of my budget as it is so ya.

marco_polo · 20-03-2013 12:34pm

If you are looking to drop the overall price slightly, as you will be gaming at 1080p, you wouldn't be losing out on too much performance by getting a HD7870 XT instead. Unlike regular HD7870s, the XT editions are basically a slighly cut down version of a HD7950 so are pretty powerful option for a very good price.

irishrook · 20-03-2013 4:33pm

Hmmm thanks I'll consider that, Is there any graphics card that ether costs roughly the same or a little more that would be better then the one I have above.

BloodBath · 20-03-2013 4:37pm

No there's not. The psu is overkill. That system, when overclocked, will use 450w tops.

irishrook · 20-03-2013 4:39pm

I want to be able to use that psu for future builds. Same with the case.

Genghiz Cohen · 20-03-2013 4:45pm

irishrook wrote: »

I want to be able to use that psu for future builds. Same with the case.

Power usage is coming down across CPU and GPUs.

BloodBath · 20-03-2013 4:46pm

No it's not.

tunedout · 20-03-2013 4:50pm

BloodBath wrote: »

No it's not.

Yes it is.

Genghiz Cohen · 20-03-2013 4:58pm

BloodBath wrote: »

No it's not.

It's 2 Vs 1, I win!

tunedout · 20-03-2013 5:06pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

It's 2 Vs 1, I win!

No you don't.

BloodBath · 20-03-2013 5:23pm

The common misconception is that it is but you seem to not realise that despite die shrinks they add millions more transistors every die shrink which ends up using more power.

Compare any high end graphics card to high end cards from previous generations and the power consumption is virtually the same, apart from maybe the odd super power hungry generation like the 8800gtx. The same can said for processors. Take overclocking into account and you end up using even more power.

Don't make me provide links to back it up.

BloodBath · 20-03-2013 5:29pm

Pentium 4 3.2c is pretty comparable to the 3570k today. 82w vs 77w. Initial core2 duos used 65w. Initial core 2 quads used 95-105w dropping down to 65-95w. You can pretty much say there's virtually little to no difference there in over 10 years of standard pc processor power consumption.

Genghiz Cohen · 20-03-2013 6:45pm

Ivy VS Sandy shows a drop of nearly 30Watts

BloodBath · 20-03-2013 7:05pm

And Haswell shows an increase which is still in line with the comparable processors I've listed from over the last 12 years.

The average is about 80-85w with little deviation from that. Granted there's more core's and igp's now but it still ends up with the same overall power consumption.

tuxy · 22-03-2013 4:09pm

Generally the GPU uses more power than the cpu in gaming PCs so a reduction in GPU power usage is more significant.

The 6xx series nvidia uses less power than the 5xx series

The 7xxx series ATI uses less power than the 6xxx series.

This is why people correctly think that power consumption is lower on this generations gaming PCs.

BloodBath · 22-03-2013 5:05pm

Not really.

5970

6970

7970

I'm looking at the standard models power by the way. Not the overclocked models. The power consumption is virtually the same in 3 generations. So have I dispelled this myth yet or do you need more evidence? They are all within 20w of each other which is 10% max. The newer cards are a lot more efficient when idle but the peak and max power aren't far off each other.

I know the current gen of Nvidia cards are easy going on power compared to some previous gens. They are an exception though.

tuxy · 22-03-2013 5:35pm

BloodBath wrote: »

I'm looking at the standard models power by the way. Not the overclocked models. The power consumption is virtually the same in 3 generations. So have I dispelled this myth yet or do you need more evidence?

Thanks for the link to back up what I was saying.

Peak power
HD 5970 211 watts
HD 6970 201 watts
HD 7970 189 watts

That's 3 generations in a row that there has been a 10 watt reduction in peak power. Nvidia have reduced power even more than these significant reductions from ATI. I think 3 generations is enough of a sample to see what direction things are going.

BloodBath · 22-03-2013 6:19pm

And you do realise that 7970's stock speed is 40-50% under what you can clock it to and most of the non reference cards use more power right? You wouldn't be getting 40-50% overclocks on either of the 2 previous generations.

Overall system power consumption has barely changed, at least not at the mid to high end level, for sure not enough for people to claim you won't need as much power as you used to and that it will for sure continue downwards. The difference is insignificant for it to be even mentioned in the first place. We're talking about a change of maybe 20w-30w total system power in 10 years.

There's a difference of 10w average power in 3 generations of cards.

tuxy · 22-03-2013 7:01pm

ATi is only one of the two main GPU makers so you have to consider Nvidia too.
The difference in power consumption between a 580 and 680 is huge. (the 480 used even more power afaik)

A good 450 watt should power a intel system with a 680
You would need a 550 watt for a 580 system.
This is significant.

ATI card used to be more power efficient now Nvidia cards are. You can be sure ATI will want to turn this around again.

To say there is a trend over the last few generations of lower power consumption is not a lie and it looks like this is the way things will continue.

BloodBath · 22-03-2013 7:46pm

I never said it was a lie. I just don't think it's anything like what people think it is. It may be a downward trend but the slope is very gradual and could go back up.

Taking a very power hungry model as an example doesn't make it apply to everything. The 8800gtx were massively power hungry as well and the 9800's dropped that down a lot only for it to go back up again.

It fluctuates and I'm sure one of their goals is always to use as little power as possible but it doesn't always work out like that. The main wall with the cards is usually heat which is directly related to their power draw. If they have an efficient card they can just bang up the clocks and boom you're using just as much power again. Users of medium-high end card's main priority is usually performance and not power consumption.

The 600's series is probably the most power efficient gpus Nvidia has ever made but they really had to make inroads in bringing down their crazy power consumption from gtx 480 and 580 days.

I didn't notice in my links that the 5970 is actually a dual gpu card so it's power consumption is pretty damn good considering that. I wish ati would just stick to a regular naming convention. The 5870 was their top single core gpu of that gen which has low ass power figures which proves my point even more that it fluctuates up and down.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/28.html

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