Buying Volvo V50, Thoughts?

shortys94

Hi

My Dad is currently in the process of upgrading his 2008 Volvo S80 2.0T to a 2010 Volvo V50 1.6 Diesel.

He has looked at a few models, in one instance a 2010 model with 114,000 Km's on the clock, leather interior etc, 1.6 Diesel. The Dealer is hovering around 19,500 euro.

Want to ask you guys should he consider going to the north or UK and purchasing? Had a look at few models in the UK and the R-design seems to be coming in around the same price with much lower on the odometer.

Would prefer to go with dealer, if anyone has any advice on what to do let me know, more information on request :-) And yes I know it is a shame to be going form the 2.0 T but he wants an estate for driving to mainland Europe, and wants to stick with Volvo.

Thanks, Looking to spend 18,000 -20,000

enumbers

I would not be a major fan of the 1.6 diesel especially with any kind of high mileage. Its a psa engine and has a brilliant ability to block the oil system and kill turbos if he's intending to do long distance driving the 2.0 diesel might suit better. Other than that the v50 is nice to drive and doesn't have any other major concerns

shortys94

He was looking at this one earlier

http://www.utvdrive.co.uk/car/483187/2010-volvo-v50-2-0d-r-design-5-year-warranty-carrickfergus/

R Design, 2.0

C.K Dexter Haven

Purely on the basis of "wanting to drive on mainland Europe" OP, I'm going to say no to a 1.6 D Volvo. The overtaking lane on a French motorway , heavily laden, is a scary place for such an emgine pulling quite a heavy car.

I do like the V 50 but it's quite a small car- it will be a comedown space wise from the S 80 so do bear that in mind.

shortys94

Yea he has had a test drive in the 1.6 and liked the styling, I think he is more favoured towards the R-Design if possible

C.K Dexter Haven

shortys94 wrote: »

Yea he has had a test drive in the 1.6 and liked the styling, I think he is more favoured towards the R-Design if possible

Good he's thinking 2.0l. If it's just him and the misus driving Europe then happy days.

Only final thing to say is that the V40 R design replaces the V 50 I think, so depreciation may be greater or else bargains may be had when purchasing?

George Dalton

I think the 1.6D is fine in these I think. They are 110-115bhp which is more than adequate for most drivers. They are only based on a Focus remember so they aren't that big a car.

The problems with the 1.6 diesel engine are usually down to lack of proper maintenance so if you buy one with a good history and reasonable mileage and keep on top of servicing it should be fine.

I think the 2.0D models are €570 to tax as well vs €190 for the 1.6 which is a big deal for a lot of people. Remember this will also have an impact on relative VRT costs if importing.

gyppo

OP, I had the same concerns when I bought my last car, a Citroen C5 tourer with the same engine, a 1.6 hdi.

Its no road burner, but its more than adequate for daily driving, and provided its not loaded fully with passengers and luggage, there's more than enough poke for overtaking.

Engines in these are fine if the oil change intervals are adhered to. Neglect at your peril. No service history - walk away.

shortys94

It'd be nice to find a 2010 in Ireland with the sat nav, entertainment system built in but again I find that a lot of the cars are basic spec once again. What is the significance of the R-design, just a few exterior extras with the 2.0 engine?

bazz26

The Irish S40/V50 were higher spec than the UK models. For example leather was standard on the Irish SE whereas it was an option on the UK SE. While UK models are bound to have more optional extras, the basic spec is lower.

enumbers

I'm not sure I agree on the reliability been down to poor maintenance . I have had 4 of these so far this year with dead turbos and very badly blocked oil systems 3 of these cars were well looked after and one in particular i've been personally looking after since it has had 30k on it. And when I took sump, oil feed, oil filter housing of everything was badly blocked up. Use elf oil to the right spec here and mann filters so I dont think the oil quality was the issue.

SouperComputer

shortys94 wrote: »

upgrading his 2008 Volvo S80 2.0T to a 2010 Volvo V50 1.6 Diesel.

/Spits out chips!

If he must sell the S80...

1) Get an older V70, FWD model
2) ??????
3) Profit!

No way I'd go from the 2.0T to the diesel, jaysus no.

Id keep the 2008 any day.

Isn't that the same engine that's in the 308 ? my sister has the 308 and the 1.6 diesel is rough !

remember to go from 44 mpg petrol to 55 mpg only saves around 400 Euro's a year over 20,000 kms.

George Dalton

enumbers wrote: »

I'm not sure I agree on the reliability been down to poor maintenance . I have had 4 of these so far this year with dead turbos and very badly blocked oil systems 3 of these cars were well looked after and one in particular i've been personally looking after since it has had 30k on it. And when I took sump, oil feed, oil filter housing of everything was badly blocked up. Use elf oil to the right spec here and mann filters so I dont think the oil quality was the issue.

Were they serviced to manufacturer schedule or sooner? We try to get owners to do an oil change every 12,000-15,000 km. We see very few turbo issues on cars that adhere to this schedule. I think the manufacturers intervals are way too long for this particular engine. Taking Ford as an example, 20,000km intervals are no problem for the 1.8TDCI but are a no-go on the 1.6.

shortys94

SouperComputer wrote: »

/Spits out chips!

If he must sell the S80...

1) Get an older V70, FWD model
2) ??????
3) Profit!

I just realised it's the S60 not the S80 :-0 But yes 2.0 T If its any consolation he is more fond of the 2.0 R Design now that he's seen it

If you have any other recommendations in the Volvo range be my guest. He's a big fan. But yes I can see the reduction in power, the 2.0 T just bursts when you hit the accelerator, such a smooth drive.

I guess we'll do more researching within Volvo family.

MuppetCheck

His current car would surely work well converted to LPG if it was running costs were the main reason to change?

I would look at the V50 as an inferior car to the current one S80.

CiniO

shortys94 wrote: »

Hi

My Dad is currently in the process of upgrading his 2008 Volvo S80 2.0T to a 2010 Volvo V50 1.6 Diesel.

TBH I would call it downgrade - not upgrade!!!


In UK I'd reckon you can get one way cheaper.

Example:
http://www.cargiant.co.uk/Volvo/V50/details-582913-Volvo-V50.asp?viewtype=0

shortys94

It's not necessarily running cost's just wants an update, would the R-Design model of the V50 or the 2.0 Diesel V70 be much of a downgrade?

Just looking at 2.0i V70's, quite nice, will show him

MuppetCheck

MuppetCheck wrote: »

His current car would surely work well converted to LPG if it was running costs were the main reason to change?

I would look at the V50 as an inferior car to the current one S80.

Yep exactly, and even if he wanted the V50 he should get the petrol and convert that.

I couldn't imagine he would go for the 1.6 diesel over the 2.0 T Petrol .

shortys94

He likes the shape of the V50, was just talking with him there and he's all for going for the R design 2.0 Diesel or Unleaded model

shortys94

shortys94 wrote: »

It's not necessarily running cost's just wants an update, would the R-Design model of the V50 or the 2.0 Diesel V70 be much of a downgrade?

Just looking at 2.0i V70's, quite nice, will show him

To be honest I'd call anything Diesel a downgrade.

CiniO

C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »

Purely on the basis of "wanting to drive on mainland Europe" OP, I'm going to say no to a 1.6 D Volvo. The overtaking lane on a French motorway , heavily laden, is a scary place for such an emgine pulling quite a heavy car.

0-62mph in 11.5seconds and and top speed of 195km/h.
That's way more than enough for driving anywhere in Europe.

CiniO

CiniO wrote: »

0-62mph in 11.5seconds and and top speed of 195km/h.
That's way more than enough for driving anywhere in Europe.

Even the Prius MK II can do that in around 9.5 seconds!

The top speed wouldn't bother me so much.

I just checked carzone, I can't anything higher than a 1.8 in petrol, and non turbo at that ?

Still rather it over the 1.6 Diesel.

CiniO

Deleted User wrote: »

Even the Prius MK II can do that in around 9.5 seconds!

The top speed wouldn't bother me so much.

Are you sure?
Specs show rather 10.9 for Prius MK2.

Anyway - it's more than enough.
I remember 10 years ago, we went for a skiing trip from Poland to France (1800km to go each way). 4 people in Fiat Seicento 0.9 litre engine. (0-100km/h in 17 seconds).
4 people onboard with luggage for a week, and 4 pairs of skis on the roof.

And you know what - we were very rarely overtaken by anyone even though we crossed whole Germany with their no-limits autobahns


PS - thanks for all your Prius recomendations recently. I strongly considered it, booked a prius, test drove it, but in the end I decided to buy something else - diesel.
However in the future I'll surely get a prius, or something simillar - maybe auris as second family car. They are great cars.

CiniO

CiniO wrote: »

Are you sure?
Specs show rather 10.9 for Prius MK2.

Anyway - it's more than enough.
I remember 10 years ago, we went for a skiing trip from Poland to France (1800km to go each way). 4 people in Fiat Seicento 0.9 litre engine. (0-100km/h in 17 seconds).
4 people onboard with luggage for a week, and 4 pairs of skis on the roof.

And you know what - we were very rarely overtaken by anyone even though we crossed whole Germany with their no-limits autobahns


PS - thanks for all your Prius recomendations recently. I strongly considered it, booked a prius, test drove it, but in the end I decided to buy something else - diesel.
However in the future I'll surely get a prius, or something simillar - maybe auris as second family car. They are great cars.

Yep well the Prius isn't for everyone, Like I wouldn't drive diesel again, never, loved them though for 300,000 odd miles.

The Prius 0-100 kph times vary I will admit depending on battery charge but on full battery it's been tested at around 9.5.

The leaf was supposed to be around 11 seconds but is actually just over 9 seconds.

In the future you'll probably want electric

What did you get after not meaning to hijack the Op's thread or update your own ?

CiniO

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep well the Prius isn't for everyone, Like I wouldn't drive diesel again, never, loved them though for 300,000 odd miles.

The Prius 0-100 kph times vary I will admit depending on battery charge but on full battery it's been tested at around 9.5.

The leaf was supposed to be around 11 seconds but is actually just over 9 seconds.

In the future you'll probably want electric

What did you get after not meaning to hijack the Op's thread or update your own ?

Civic Hatchback 2.2i-CTDI

CiniO

CiniO wrote: »

Civic Hatchback 2.2i-CTDI

2.2 CDTI ? nice, best of luck.

Why don't you do a review for boards and let us know what you think of it with pics ?