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veolia - private land

  • 12-03-2013 10:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭


    Just a bit of a question ....well maybe a couple of questions :

    1. Are the LUAS Stations private land ?

    2. Are the LUAS tracks private property ?

    3. Are the roads that contain LUAS tracks private property ?

    my understanding is that Veolia own the tracks and land on which the tracks run - the stations are definitely private property ?

    the theory .... if the roads with LUAS tracks are private property in the same way that the LUAS stations are private property then .... there could be legal issues with crashes and/or parking on said streets ?

    I'm sure someone will simply say something like its a public-private partnership so its still partially owned by the government or wholly owned by the government but veolia if this is the case then it means that veolia's claim that the stations are private land ...hence their private security team ??

    I dont really know what I'm actually looking for in terms of other people's opinions here ....but anyones opinions are welcome on the ownership of the various different lands and/or any legalities surrounding the parking on the same streets (if the land on which the tracks exist is infact private then that would mean clampers cannot operate on it) and if this is the case....then crashes on the roads with tracks ....could these have legal issues with private land crashes ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭source


    Corkbah wrote: »
    Just a bit of a question ....well maybe a couple of questions :

    1. Are the LUAS Stations private land ?

    2. Are the LUAS tracks private property ?

    3. Are the roads that contain LUAS tracks private property ?

    my understanding is that Veolia own the tracks and land on which the tracks run - the stations are definitely private property ?

    the theory .... if the roads with LUAS tracks are private property in the same way that the LUAS stations are private property then .... there could be legal issues with crashes and/or parking on said streets ?

    I'm sure someone will simply say something like its a public-private partnership so its still partially owned by the government or wholly owned by the government but veolia if this is the case then it means that veolia's claim that the stations are private land ...hence their private security team ??

    I dont really know what I'm actually looking for in terms of other people's opinions here ....but anyones opinions are welcome on the ownership of the various different lands and/or any legalities surrounding the parking on the same streets (if the land on which the tracks exist is infact private then that would mean clampers cannot operate on it) and if this is the case....then crashes on the roads with tracks ....could these have legal issues with private land crashes ??

    There's a difference between public property and a public place. Private property can be a public place under the road traffic acts and public order acts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Typically, the Railway Procurement Agency owns the land, tracks and stops. In some cases other people own the land and the RPA have a right of way over the land

    The RPA have bye-laws to control behaviour on the tramway. http://www.luas.ie/luas-byelaws.html

    The RPA gave a contract to Veolia to run the tram system for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    thanks - it was meerly some thoughts in my head yesterday ...thanks for your responses.


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