Best polish to shine up a black car?

f140

well just wondering whats the best polish or whatever to shine up the paint on a black car so its like new?

mickdw

Whats the paint like. It is destroyed with swirl marks and covered in tar?

Depending on the current condition, you could do a good wash, tar remover, clay bar, polish and wax. No point going near it with polish if the surface isnt spotless hence the clay bar.

If you really want it like new, get a professional to do a machine polish. This will remove any swirls etc.

MuppetCheck

Chemical Guys Blacklight.

Curran

mickdw wrote: »

Depending on the current condition, you could do a good wash, tar remover, clay bar, polish and wax. No point going near it with polish if the surface isnt spotless hence the clay bar.

Mick has it right here! Even if the car was brand new, it would be worth doing the clay bar as there is bound to be some form of contamination in the paint work! And de-ironising its a step I'd recommend too!

The routine would be...
Wash
De-Tar
Rinse
De-ironise
Rinse
Clay
Rinse
Dry
Polish
Protection (wax or sealant)

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Chemical Guys Blacklight.

Blacklight isnt a polish....but it certainly does make black look great! Its classed more as a glaze (to help fill swirls) and sealant (not very durable though)


If it were me, I'd do the routine above! And for the polish use either..
1) Chemical Guys Pro Polish 3n and protect with JetSeal109 for a very durable finish or Chemical Guys Pete's 53 (desgined for black paint, but not quite as durable as Jetseal)
2) Autoglym Super Resin Polish and protect with Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection or Autoglym HD Wax

randy hickey

Curran, do you ever feel like you're repeating yourself?!!!:D:D

OP, here's a thread on this very topic from just a few days back;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056893223

Curran

randy hickey wrote: »

Curran, do you ever feel like you're repeating yourself?!!!:D:D

Yeah...sometimes I do

Was a slightly different queston though....had thought of linking that too

It's all good...don't mind repeating myself for the sake of swirl free cars :cool:

gollywog

Curran wrote: »

Yeah...sometimes I do

Was a slightly different queston though....had thought of linking that too

It's all good...don't mind repeating myself for the sake of swirl free cars :cool:

You have to admire your enthusiasm man, theres a whole load of cars now that haven't seen a sponge in ages!!

Curran

gollywog wrote: »

theres a whole load of cars now that haven't seen a sponge in ages!!

Is that because the people haven't been washing their cars over the winter months

I don't mind sharing the knowledge....as a whole, we Irish don't look after our car's exterior half as well as our UK friends. Detailing is far more popular...lots more using the 2BM anyways, and who know what claying is and the difference between polish and wax!

Think it's starting to sink in with a few, not so detailing enthusiast peeps here

vectra

Curran wrote: »

If it were me, I'd do the routine above! And for the polish use either..
1) Chemical Guys Pro Polish 3n and protect with JetSeal109 for a very durable finish or Chemical Guys Pete's 53 (desgined for black paint, but not quite as durable as Jetseal)
2) Autoglym Super Resin Polish and protect with Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection or Autoglym HD Wax

I would wax over the Jetseal for a more durable finish as that Jetseal tends to "dry out" and go dead looking.

randy hickey

I still get strange looks when I advocate microfibre mitts instead of the beloved sponge or, worse again, the wash brush.


As regards converting some people to clay, it would be easier to explain how a vanos unit works!

But we must persevere!

Slightly off topic, hats off to Curran for your constant input here in this forum - it's much appreciated!

Curran

vectra wrote: »

I would wax over the Jetseal for a more durable finish as that Jetseal tends to "dry out" and go dead looking.

Yeah, if not on a budget, it would too.

Not a huge fan of using very durable protection unless it's nano technology, and even at that's it's only because it don't have as much time as i used to.
I much prefer something with a warm appearance that i have to top up regularly...keeps it looking it's best...and there's enjoyment in that!

vectra

Curran wrote: »

Yeah, if not on a budget, it would too.

Not a huge fan of using very durable protection unless it's nano technology, and even at that's it's only because it don't have as much time as i used to.
I much prefer something with a warm appearance that i have to top up regularly...keeps it looking it's best...and there's enjoyment in that!

Agreed,
I have used wolf BW and although it is great and probably a Blessing to some, I still prefer regular Cleansing/waxing.

charlieharper

Here's the link, excellent product and affordable too:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_804727_langId_-1_categoryId_255240

Ignore the review, if he done it properly it has serious results and lasts 6 months.

Curran

charlieharper wrote: »

Ignore the review, if he done it properly it has serious results and lasts 6 months.

Ignore the review? Why?
Anyways, its not really a review - its more his opinion, and he thinks its rubbish!

Here's a decent review!

If you read between the lines (remembering he probably got it free to do the review, and has to be nice) its seems a bit rubbish!!
And if you arent arsed reading it, I'll pull a few quotes out of it!

He only did half a bonnet as a test panel!
"This Kit Needs Some Gloves you have been warned..." (you end out with black hands without them)

After applying the Colorfast application
"A very slight reduction in the Swirls but nothing to write home about"

After applying the Colorseal
"Now it certainly Darkened the Paint and it very slightly filled the Swirls it could well fair much better, and be even more noticeable on a more faded black.
However my paint apart from Swirly is sound and considering that it is still a noticeable darkening to the paint.
If the whole car is done you would not see a contrast and infact if a panel line separates one panel done from another, you would be hard pressed to notice.
However if you have one panel half done and one not you can see the difference, i can see it from 3 foot away and sometimes 4 foot away"

In his final summary...
"As a pack could it answer your swirl issues... not as i used it and sorry i dont fancy trying full hand correction"


Also to take note, he actually clayed the bonnet to remove it of any contaminants, which the kit doesnt have include in the box, or say to do.
It doesnt seem to have done a whole lot with regard to giving extra gloss or shine.

One positive, seemed to be....
After a driving the car for a bit, and testing by pouring a jug of water on to the bonnet
The untreated side - "Still leaving a very visible film of Dirt Behind"
The T-Cut 365 Treated side - "I had to get down close and slant my head to see if any Dirt left behind and yes there was a very very slight Film but it was very hard to see and a great deal less than the Untreated Panel"


However, after a two snowfoam and rinse (one day) and a two bucket wash (the next day)....
"The distinction between the treated and untreated panels is Very Faint now a bit of a struggle to find the line, I do not imagine it to be there after another wash"


Seems totally useless to me....better off spending a few more quid, buying the right products, and doing it right the first time! Saves twice the effort and wasting 25 odd quid in the first place! But then, thats my opinion, and I think T-Cut belongs back in the 80's along with single stage paint!

charlieharper

Curran wrote: »

Ignore the review? Why?
Anyways, its not really a review - its more his opinion, and he thinks its rubbish!

Here's a decent review!

If you read between the lines (remembering he probably got it free to do the review, and has to be nice) its seems a bit rubbish!!
And if you arent arsed reading it, I'll pull a few quotes out of it!

He only did half a bonnet as a test panel!
"This Kit Needs Some Gloves you have been warned..." (you end out with black hands without them)

After applying the Colorfast application
"A very slight reduction in the Swirls but nothing to write home about"

After applying the Colorseal
"Now it certainly Darkened the Paint and it very slightly filled the Swirls it could well fair much better, and be even more noticeable on a more faded black.
However my paint apart from Swirly is sound and considering that it is still a noticeable darkening to the paint.
If the whole car is done you would not see a contrast and infact if a panel line separates one panel done from another, you would be hard pressed to notice.
However if you have one panel half done and one not you can see the difference, i can see it from 3 foot away and sometimes 4 foot away"

In his final summary...
"As a pack could it answer your swirl issues... not as i used it and sorry i dont fancy trying full hand correction"


Also to take note, he actually clayed the bonnet to remove it of any contaminants, which the kit doesnt have include in the box, or say to do.
It doesnt seem to have done a whole lot with regard to giving extra gloss or shine.

One positive, seemed to be....
After a driving the car for a bit, and testing by pouring a jug of water on to the bonnet
The untreated side - "Still leaving a very visible film of Dirt Behind"
The T-Cut 365 Treated side - "I had to get down close and slant my head to see if any Dirt left behind and yes there was a very very slight Film but it was very hard to see and a great deal less than the Untreated Panel"


However, after a two snowfoam and rinse (one day) and a two bucket wash (the next day)....
"The distinction between the treated and untreated panels is Very Faint now a bit of a struggle to find the line, I do not imagine it to be there after another wash"


Seems totally useless to me....better off spending a few more quid, buying the right products, and doing it right the first time! Saves twice the effort and wasting 25 odd quid in the first place! But then, thats my opinion, and I think T-Cut belongs back in the 80's along with single stage paint!

The user said he wanted something good and affordable and that's what I posted. It's easy say to people T-Cut is this and that but not all of us can afoord 4 to 5 bottles of Autoglym or Meguairs...

Curran

charlieharper wrote: »

The user said he wanted something good and affordable and that's what I posted. It's easy say to people T-Cut is this and that but not all of us can afoord 4 to 5 bottles of Autoglym or Meguairs...

Not all of us can afford 25 quid and half a day of our time, pissing both down the drain.
Do it right first time, or not at all, is the way i prefer to do things!