Bulding house in Ireland - foreigner.

yoshiktk

Hi,
I have a question about building a house in Ireland.
Because of a high price of the current houses I though about building a one.
The problem is that im a foreigner. As far I checked things till now its pretty hard for a foreigner to get all needed permissions.
Is it the same if I get the Irish citizenship?
Thanks

megafan

Well yoshiktk depends where you want to build... you'll find there's parts of the country your banned from building in & it's not because your a foreigner Irish citizens are disicriminated against also!

yoshiktk

I was thinking about Wicklow or around. I'm working in Bray so that would be the best choice.
On polish boards there is a quite long topic about one of guys trying to build one, unfortunate without any luck. I don't remember exactly where he wanted to build it.
The amount of difficulties he had was just enormous, in the end he decided just to buy one, the only permission he received was for ground floor only despite the fact that the all houses around had one or two floors.
Im not sure would i like to go through hell just to end with something which county wanted not what i desired.

megafan

Dunno if link below will work yoshiktk but basically most of Wicklow a no no for one off housing unless you have lived in the area for quite a while (& that goes fot Irish citizens also) now I'm sure others can advise you better but hope link below helps!

http://www.wicklow.ie/apps/wicklowbeta/planning/Forms/pre-planning%20guide%20No.%201.pdf

yoshiktk

Quite interesting guide. Especially the part which says if I already own one they wont give me a permission to build another one.
A lot of question arose after reading that.
It looks that I'll have to visit county to ask about details what are my chances to get permission.

muffler

Every county council in Ireland have their own development plans which incorporate government policy and also their own local policies in relation to rural house development. You will not be discriminated against because of these policies as they apply to everyone including the citizens of this country.

I am not personally familiar with the housing policies of Wicklow county council but from reading posts in this forum and also bits and pieces in the papers over the years it is, in my opinion, one of the more difficult counties in which to get permission to build in a rural location. Other county councils may be a bit more relaxed in this regard.

However its not simply a case of the councils banning one off houses completely but more to do with councils adopting policies that primarily assist people who are from a rural background and wish to remain so. For everyone else there are no restrictions (with regards to background etc) on getting permission to build within town and village boundaries subject of course to the usual requirements of design, road access, water supply, sewage treatment etc.

In simple terms you will probably find that most councils will only consider granting permission to people who are from a rural background and have a need for a house. Thats a fairly wide sweeping statement and there are always exemptions built in here and there but you need to read and understand the policies contained in the County Development Plan.

I would strongly recommend that you engage a local architectural technician or architect and discuss your own situation and be guided by them on an advisory basis to start with.

megafan

Also yoshiktk don't let high price asked for second hand home put you off from making an offer most houses away over priced... sellers living in dream land & may never sell keep pluging away & you might be surprised at what vendor will accept (could be the only offer they've ever had!)...

yoshiktk

megafan wrote: »

Also yoshiktk don't let high price asked for second hand home put you off from making an offer most houses away over priced... sellers living in dream land & may never sell keep pluging away & you might be surprised at what vendor will accept (could be the only offer they've ever had!)...

The problem with high price is that even if get it down, in almost all houses which are interesting for me, I would need to add 50-60k € for repairs or getting the house in proper state.
That's why i thought about building one.

moy83

yoshiktk wrote: »

The problem with high price is that even if get it down, in almost all houses which are interesting for me, I would need to add 50-60k € for repairs or getting the house in proper state.
That's why i thought about building one.

I'd say at the minute you would actuall buy a house cheaper than buying a site and building yourself . That would save alot of time and planning hassle aswell

yoshiktk

moy83 wrote: »

I'd say at the minute you would actuall buy a house cheaper than buying a site and building yourself . That would save alot of time and planning hassle aswell

There are pros and cons for both.
The cost for both could be similar. Buying a house would mean loads of repairs and work to be done, thats why I was thinking about building one.
I see at the end of year how my budget gonna look.