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servicing help, pictures included

  • 05-03-2013 11:30pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭


    I have an Audi a6 2.0 TDI 2005. I want to start servicing it do I just wanna be sure on a few things
    Is this the oil filter?


    Also where do I find the spark plugs, what must i remove to find the coils?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Now I'm not trying to sound rude but if you are looking for the spark plugs in a Diesel car then I would suggest that you should have your servicing done by someone else until you build up some basic knowledge first...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I would agree. Do a bit of background reading and then perhaps get a mate who knows what they are doing to give you a hand servicing until you know what you are doing.
    After all, you dont want to end up with a ruined engine due to a schoolboy error.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    mickdw wrote: »
    I would agree. Do a bit of background reading and then perhaps get a mate who knows what they are doing to give you a hand servicing until you know what you are doing.
    After all, you dont want to end up with a ruined engine due to a schoolboy error.
    I can see your point, but everyone has to start somewhere. This is my first diesel and first proper car. My last cars were puntos etc. I've watched countless you tube videos there's just none for the 2.0tdi. Any help from the picture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭jamesbondings


    bazery wrote: »
    I have an Audi a6 2.0 TDI 2005. I want to start servicing it do I just wanna be sure on a few things
    Is this the oil filter?


    Also where do I find the spark plugs, what must i remove to find the coils?


    No thats where you put the oil in..... If im correct the oil filter is like a fat can accessible from under the car....might need more YouTube videos man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    mickdw wrote: »
    I would agree. Do a bit of background reading and then perhaps get a mate who knows what they are doing to give you a hand servicing until you know what you are doing.
    After all, you dont want to end up with a ruined engine due to a schoolboy error.
    Oh all my mates are plonkers. IE couldn't change a light bulb. I may have portrayed myself as less knowledgeable then I am. I've serviced smaller cars just not a diesel. I can see your point tho. I just don't want to spend an absolute fortune on something I can learn to do


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery




    No thats where you put the oil in..... If im correct the oil filter is like a fat can accessible from under the car....might need more YouTube videos man
    Is this it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭debabyjesus


    bazery wrote: »
    I can see your point, but everyone has to start somewhere. This is my first diesel and first proper car. My last cars were puntos etc. I've watched countless you tube videos there's just none for the 2.0tdi. Any help from the picture
    Fair play to you for trying to learn.
    Get yourself the haynes manual for your car. It will show you how to do easy stuff safely.


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    bazery wrote: »
    Is this it

    That's the one. Get yourself a proper tool to open it. The middle "nut" is for tightening it after the new filter has gone in. The required torque to tighten those plastic caps is quite small and if you overdo it you'll never be able to open it without damage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    bazery wrote: »
    Is this it


    Yes that's the oil filter. You will need to have the right socket for the filter housing and use a new O ring(supplied with decent brand filters) and torque the cap correctly otherwise it will leak...like it seems your one already is.

    I would agree with the others though, a modern diesel engine will require more specific knowledge then older basic petrols so as said, you should do more research before you touch it.
    You have systems in the Audi that you won't have had in any of your previous cars like a turbo, EGR's(depending on the cars you had before) etc that are very sensitive to using specific oil types and following very exact service methods and sceduals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    [Quote=Nissan doctor;8353156

    Yes that's the oil filter. You will need to have the right socket for the filter housing and use a new O ring(supplied with decent brand filters) and torque the cap correctly otherwise it will leak...like it seems your one already is.

    I would agree with the others though, a modern diesel engine will require more specific knowledge then older basic petrols so as said, you should do more research before you touch it.
    You have systems in the Audi that you won't have had in any of your previous cars like a turbo, EGR's(depending on the cars you had before) etc that are very sensitive to using specific oil types and following very exact service methods and sceduals.[/Quote]


    The oil to use is 5w30.
    I can do the air filter, the cabin filter and the oil.
    I want to do the plugs and maybe the coils.
    Are they under the black section in my first post. i have the tools!
    I don't think I'll be able to do brake pads because of the e brake, and I'll leave the fuel filter to the mechanic.
    Thanks for the input so far btw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    bazery wrote: »
    The oil to use is 5w30.
    I can do the air filter, the cabin filter and the oil.
    I want to do the plugs and maybe the coils.
    Are they under the black section in my first post. i have the tools!
    I don't think I'll be able to do brake pads because of the e brake, and I'll leave the fuel filter to the mechanic.
    Thanks for the input so far btw

    You must make sure that you get oil with the correct VW ratings, any 5w30 will not do.

    As I pointed out earlier, you need to learn more about how a Diesel engine works. There is no ignition system used in a Diesel cycle. The fuel auto ignites when it is injected into the cylinders. This is due to the air reaching high temperatures during the compression.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    Ded_Zebra wrote: »
    You must make sure that you get oil with the correct VW ratings, any 5w30 will not do.

    As I pointed out earlier, you need to learn more about how a Diesel engine works. There is no ignition system used in a Diesel cycle. The fuel auto ignites when it is injected into the cylinders. This is due to the air reaching high temperatures during the compression.

    your're right! sorry all the youtube vids are for petrol cars. what do diesel car owners change so(glow plugs...guessing) or is it not done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    bazery wrote: »

    That's exactly the right stuff. You may be able to get it cheaper elsewhere by the way, I actually got mine off amazon.co.uk

    I think you're absolutly right to get in there and give it a go by the way! You have to start somewhere. Dont be put off by the second post in here about spark plugs in a diesel - this is how you learn. This is what boards.ie is for - we're all here to help where we can.

    just for reference aswell; (if it helps)

    The Sump plug is a 19mm steel bolt and needs to be tightened to 30nm
    The oil Filter cap is a 32mm "bolt" and needs to be tightened to 25nm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    That's exactly the right stuff. You may be able to get it cheaper elsewhere by the way, I actually got mine off amazon.co.uk

    I think you're absolutly right to get in there and give it a go by the way! You have to start somewhere. Dont be put off by the second post in here about spark plugs in a diesel - this is how you learn. This is what boards.ie is for - we're all here to help where we can.

    just for reference aswell; (if it helps)

    The Sump plug is a 19mm steel bolt and needs to be tightened to 30nm
    The oil Filter cap is a 32mm "bolt" and needs to be tightened to 25nm

    Cheers bud. that will be a nice start to my diying. I have a good bit to learn, but i want to save as much as I can. Servicing this thing could be crazy money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    Glow plugs generally have a much longer life than spark plugs, and can be trickier to change as a result

    You migt get 90 or 100,000 miles before they fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    Just ordered the oil off amazon and used parcel motel to save on shipping.

    i found this video for the fuel filter. is it this simple
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0TH-IsvMQ


    also is this my fuel filter?


    I'm still intrigued by glow plug change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Ronnie Beck


    bazery wrote: »
    Just ordered the oil off amazon and used parcel motel to save on shipping.

    i found this video for the fuel filter. is it this simple
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0TH-IsvMQ


    also is this my fuel filter?


    I'm still intrigued by glow plug change.

    That's you fuel filter. Fill the new one with diesel before you fit it. Mark the hoses and take a photo so you don't forget which one goes where. That r-clip just pulls out and the T piece comes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    Dont you have to de-pressurise the fuel system first by removing the fuel pump fuse and starting the car until the engine stops? That vid does not mention that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭navara man


    jimmyw wrote: »
    Dont you have to de-pressurise the fuel system first by removing the fuel pump fuse and starting the car until the engine stops?
    NO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    navara man wrote: »
    NO

    Ah.......right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    jimmyw wrote: »
    Dont you have to de-pressurise the fuel system first by removing the fuel pump fuse and starting the car until the engine stops? That vid does not mention that.
    I did see that somewhere else, I don't like the idea of running it dry tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭MAJJ


    On my 08 1.9 TDi you replace the fuel filter and once all sealed up you prime it by turning the ignition (don't start the engine) partially a few times. I believe this pumps fuel,fills the pump and purges the air

    Caveat I have not done this but my mechanic showed me months ago and I have not had to do it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    Has anyone done the glow plugs, I'm nearly at the 100 mark and wouldn't mind doing them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    think the glow plugs are under the manifold and are hard to get at, i dont think there much point though as it will start without them heating!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    bazery wrote: »
    Has anyone done the glow plugs, I'm nearly at the 100 mark and wouldn't mind doing them
    If they are working OK, leave them alone.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    bazery wrote: »
    Has anyone done the glow plugs, I'm nearly at the 100 mark and wouldn't mind doing them

    Unless the car won't start in cold weather, your plugs are fine and leave them alone.

    For a 2005 there should be a glow plug light in the dash anyway. Check your owners manual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    OK I've oil on order and the fuel, air, oil and cabin filter.

    Is there anything else I should be doing except brakes. I'll leave them to the mechanic. Maybe transmission oil?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    That's all your filters anyway! As for transmission oil; it's something which i've shy'd away from. Seems like an absolute pig to do - that's one I'd be leaving to a mechanic. But others in here might disagree and throw in their own two-cents. Also, dont forget your timing belt if needs done (another one for a mechanic). Seems you want to get as much sorted in one go.

    Also dont forget the basics like checking all your lights are working, going to a filling station and verify all your tire pressures, making sure your coolant levels are okay, your brake fluid levels (although you're getting your brakes done so they should check that), Go around the engine bay and underside of your car with a tub of grease (or alternative corrosion inhibitor like ACF-50) and treat any bolts, steel collars on tubes, bare metal, battery terminals, etc. which is showing signs of corrosion. just basic preventitave stuff you know.

    otherwise though, all those filter and oil changes should see you right though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    That's all your Filters anyway! As for transmission oil; it's something which i've shy'd away from. Seems like an absolute pig to do - that's one I'd be leaving to a mechanic. But others in here might disagree and throw in their own two-cents. Also, dont forget your timing belt if needs done (another one for a mechanic). Seems you want to get as much sorted in one go.

    Also dont forget the basics like checking all your lights are working, going to a filling station and verify all your tire pressures, making sure your coolant levels are okay, your brake fluid levels (although you're getting your brakes done so they should check that), Go around the engine bay and underside of your car with a tub of grease (or alternative corrosion inhibitor like ACF-50) and treat any bolts, steel collars on tubes, bare metal, battery terminals, etc. which is showing signs of corrosion. just basic preventitave stuff you know.

    otherwise though, all those filter and oil changes should see you right though.
    Timing belt was done at 75 so should be OK.
    I'm obsessed with lights so they are all good.
    Regarding coolant is that special Audi stuff or is it just water. And is it just engine coolant or have I other coolants to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    bazery wrote: »
    Timing belt was done at 75 so should be OK.
    I'm obsessed with lights so they are all good.
    Regarding coolant is that special Audi stuff or is it just water. And is it just engine coolant or have I other coolants to do

    Just engine coolant. It's a mixture of water + anti freeze. There are lots of types of anti freeze on the market, have a look in your owners manual and it should tell you the manufacturers recommended brand. I wouldn't mix different brands / types. But that's only if your coolant level is low - unlikley tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Just engine coolant. It's a mixture of water + anti freeze. There are lots of types of anti freeze on the market, have a look in your owners manual and it should tell you the manufacturers recommended brand. I wouldn't mix different brands / types. But that's only if your coolant level is low - unlikley tbh.
    Thought there were only 2 types of coolant out there?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭sebastianlieken


    Esel wrote: »
    Thought there were only 2 types of coolant out there?

    uhm... :confused: I just know there's more than one so assumed there were a few. (Does a quick google)

    okay I just googled and am now more confused. :pac:

    one place says that you have a green and an orange antifreeze where orange is the more modern organic type. then Toyota have have a red type whihc is basically green with red dye.

    another place says each manufacturer has diffrent grades and specification requirments.

    I saw a wheeler dealers that used a waterless coolant

    ugh... i dont care anymore lol! it's too late... I need coffee :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    i think that micksgarage.com have a video on their website about how to service that engine including oil, air and fuel filter have a look.

    I have no link to the company but some of their videos are useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    dh0011 wrote: »
    i think that micksgarage.com have a video on their website about how to service that engine including oil, air and fuel filter have a look.

    I have no link to the company but some of their videos are useful.
    There oil change video is basically the same engine. Its a 2 litre Passat. Thanks.
    I've a lot to do. Gonna Google about the coolant thjng


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    right i know this might seem crazy but i'm looking at doing the brakes and all. just watched this video and it looks very easy. mine look very similar to this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3WxNzVd6lA

    What do you think. is there anything I should watch out for.

    I can't do the rears because of the electronic park brake but thats ok because I want them to reset the service interval anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    bazery wrote: »
    right i know this might seem crazy but i'm looking at doing the brakes and all. just watched this video and it looks very easy. mine look very similar to this video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3WxNzVd6lA

    What do you think. is there anything I should watch out for.

    I can't do the rears because of the electronic park brake but thats ok because I want them to reset the service interval anyway.

    Yours is the C6 variant I think. Brakes on the audis are generally handy enough. All your questions answered here:

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/195-C6-A6-S6-RS6,

    along with multiple tutorials. A very useful site with plenty of clever folk, just like here ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    if it is your first time at the brakes might be good to have someone who has done brakes before with you to give you a hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    dh0011 wrote: »
    if it is your first time at the brakes might be good to have someone who has done brakes before with you to give you a hand.
    Cheers, neighbour is a mechanic so if I feck something badly I can give him a shout.
    I think I have three jobs for the mechanic anyway.
    Brake line flush, rear brake pads and possibly transmission fluid. Oh and reset service interval
    Cheers everyone. Can wait for parts to arrive and get started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    Question, where do you dispose of the old oil and filters after you have changed them?

    Why do you want change replace everything? Modern diesel engines require a bit more then diy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    ronaneire wrote: »
    Question, where do you dispose of the old oil and filters after you have changed them?

    Why do you want change replace everything? Modern diesel engines require a bit more then diy.

    Well it's no harm doing the oil and oil filter yourself. You'll know the oil is the exact type and good quality when you buy it yourself. The air filter is easy too.

    No harm in giving the EGR valve a clean every 12 months too. Youtube/Google is your friend.

    Fair play to the OP for starting to learn to do it themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭irelandspurs


    Where are you living,someone here my be near you and give you a hand and show you what to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    ronaneire wrote: »
    Question, where do you dispose of the old oil and filters after you have changed them?

    Why do you want change replace everything? Modern diesel engines require a bit more then diy.
    Old filters into the bin, old oil the septic tank probably, not too worried bout it.
    What do you mean more than diy. I don't think a main dealer would do half the things I'm doing to it. I'm using Good oil not the cheap stuff they buy in bulk.




    Good idea bout egr valve. I'll look into it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    bazery wrote: »
    Old filters into the bin, old oil the septic tank probably, not too worried bout it.
    What do you mean more than diy. I don't think a main dealer would do half the things I'm doing to it. I'm using Good oil not the cheap stuff they buy in bulk.




    Good idea bout egr valve. I'll look into it

    Could be wrong, but i don't think you can put waste oil into your septic tank. Most recycling plants/landfills will take it off your hands.

    Halfords sell a drain pan that doubles as a container for €7 or €8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Seriously. Dont put oil into your septic tank. Im no environmental nut but that will just not work.
    Fill the oil into a drum and keep it for random tasks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭bazery


    mickdw wrote: »
    Seriously. Dont put oil into your septic tank. Im no environmetal nut but that will just not work.
    Fill the oil into a drum and keep it for random tasks.

    No worries I'll find a home for it somewhere. I've a few blue drums knocking around.

    What cleaner would you guys recommend for cleaning the egr internals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,190 ✭✭✭cletus


    bazery wrote: »

    What cleaner would you guys recommend for cleaning the egr internals?

    Get a can of carb cleaner, about a tenner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭Mar4ix


    There is no problem get rid of used oil and oil filters, I am using coolmine recycling center for free used oil and oil filter disposal.

    Go green, save nature :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭MAJJ


    same in ballyogan and most other recycling places, for free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey


    I bring my waste oil in five gallon drums to Ballymount Recycling Facility ( run by South Dublin Co Co ) where they have a special area in the corner with a big tank.

    A relatively small amount of used oil can do horrendous damage when it finds it's way into a watercourse.

    There's really no excuse anymore for not disposing of it properly.


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